MMGALB727's Training Log

[quote]rcfromdb wrote:
Cardio sucks balls. Are you prepping for a show?[/quote]

rcfromdb - hey there! Yes, it DOES suck balls! No… no more shows for me. They ROYALLY F*CKED my metabolism up! And I was VERY smart about prepping for my show… I slowly dropped cals and carbs, included regular re-feed days, slowly upped cardio… had a sane mix of steady state and HIIT, and did a “mirror diet” after my show (i.e. mirrored my competition prep and slowly raised calories and carbs) and I gained back quite a bit of fat.

Plus I was diagnosed with Autoimmune Hypothyroidism (aka Hashimoto’s disease) as well as PCOS and Adrenal Fatigue shortly after my last show. F**k figure comps in their a-hole! Seriously! I am positive that they are responsible for my Adrenal Fatigue (which can lead to hypothyroidism) and while I was diagnosed with Hashimoto’s… I am not convinced that my Hypo is autoimmune… I think it’s environmental… but I am still doing some research to figure out how to get rid of it! Blah!

BUT… while I am not a huge fan of steady state cardio, I do enjoy the occasional walk with a friend or my boyfriend… and there are plenty of interval things I like doing… (Farmer’s Walk, sled dragging, tire flipping, prowler/plate pushing, barbell complexes, TABATA, sprints on a track, etc).

So I incorporate those when I have the time and energy and recovery… (And since my Adrenal Fatigue has gotten really bad in the last 10-12 months, I have not had much energy or recovery capability… so the cardio has been minimal). Anyway… I hope that made sense… it’s 3 am here (I can’t sleep b/c I am on New Zealand time! =P) and I am just blabbering!

Skye - yes, I am back! Haha I <3 Kroc Rows! I feel like such a beast when I do them! YAY! However, I would probably be quite depressed with my current numbers… but I do want to add them in again soon! =D

Kimba - yeah… they suck! But I bet your would surprise yourself with what you could lift. Back in April when we were training for our PL-ing comp… my coach informed us that we would be doing back extension for sets of 12 with a 68 lb cambered bar on our backs… WTF? But he made us all try it and as much as it hurt… we ALL did it (including Susie, my 110-lb midget lifting partner… also the midget who sat on CBear while she performed single leg hip thrusts)… anyway… I never though in a million years I could do it… but I did! (it helped having 3 other chicks going for it too… but don’t sell yourself short!

Here is me (please excuse the sex noises… happens often when I lift… OOPS!)

Here is Susie (otherwise known as Siouxsie)

Blackwidowgirl - Thanks so much!!! Nothig specific at the moment… struggling a bit with some health issues… so just trying to maintain SOME respectable level of strength and get my body healthy again… not as easy as it sounds unfortunately =( Thanks for stopping by!

Deja - Thanks! As soon as I heard about it I knew I just HAD to try it! =D

Oh Cal - I hope I didn’t totally confuse you… when I said “Body Weight Squats” I meant literally… MY BODY WEIGHT… nothing else! ;D No Barbell… no nothing… I guess I should have said “bodyweight squats…” My BAD! Haha the MOST I have done for reps is 135 for 25 a believe… for ONE SET… then I cried and lay in the floor for a while!

Skye - since I JUST realized that it’s easy to embed Youtube vids within my journal (I am a little slow at times =D) I will post a vid of the Kroc Row GLORY DAYS! I hope to be back to this level again soon! =D

Molly, I could watch your videos over and over for hours. Jeez. Us.

I’m also working with recovery issues…luckily not health issues, but just figuring out what my body needs to do to recover optimally. Rest? Mobility? Cardio? Easy complexes? Hard complexes? Still working with it.

[quote]mmgalb727 wrote:
Skye - since I JUST realized that it’s easy to embed Youtube vids within my journal (I am a little slow at times =D) I will post a vid of the Kroc Row GLORY DAYS! I hope to be back to this level again soon! =D

Holy crap that’s beautiful to see :slight_smile:

If I saw a girl that small do something like that in my gym I’d probably hug her. haha. That’s way cool.

PS. I read your rant and I’m with ya. Fuck figure in their a-hole! hahaha

Dirty bitches would probably love it.

Molly - LMAO! Yeah, OK, now your numbers make more sense. I was thinking if you can do that with a dodgy thyroid, then you must actually be bionic.

wow, on several fronts here Molly. wow on your strength…thanks for the videos…awesome inspiration!! wow, i’m sorry to hear about your health issues and i’m happy you are on your way to recovery.

and a very big wow in regards to you ending up with these health issues despite smart training for the comp. i never, ever thought of competing, but i thought i wanted a body similiar to SOME of the figure girls (like you, not the stringy ones)…no fucking way now. i saw the insanity so many of them were going through and i realized i’m not willing to make those sarifices. thank you for putting that out there…and welcome home.

[quote]mmgalb727 wrote:
Skye - since I JUST realized that it’s easy to embed Youtube vids within my journal (I am a little slow at times =D) I will post a vid of the Kroc Row GLORY DAYS! I hope to be back to this level again soon! =D
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Gotta love the kroc rows!! Where are you now? Have you tried them lately?

omg i got a little phaklempt watching u and siouxsie! I miss you guys like crazy! and the whole rest of the crew! i HAS to come down there soon!

while im soooo not surprised that you’re strong enough to pull that off, im glad you got video of it! hells yeah!

Re: kroc rows: holy shit that’s awesome! I’m rowing half that. But what makes these kroc rows rather than just dumbbell rows?

Kimba - You are so sweet! =D I am glad you are experimenting! The thing is, since your body is not static… it will probably always be a guessing game. Here are the guidelines I tend to follow: Clearly your body always needs regular mobility work… If you have lots of energy to expend and you are eating and resting enough, then you can probably handle more high intensity intervals (if you are so inclined)… if you feel like ass and/or have been sick and/or don’t feel motivated then you need rest…and finally if you are looking to cut some body fat or just notice that you need some help with your overall conditioning, then adding in some occasional cardio is a good idea (low to moderate intensity) =D And then of course we all tend to neglect things we know we need to currently be doing… UGH! So much to keep up with! =D

nlmain - thanks! =-D

rcfromdb - Umm… she would definitely let you! In fact, she would probably jump on you and wrap her legs around you if you hugged her! (She often acts like a chihuahua on crack! But somehow, NOT annoying… it’s weird!) But yeah… she is a bad-ass! Incredible genetics and a ridiculous work ethic… you can’t really beat that combo! I mean… she go to the point where you could bench her body weight, and squat and deadlift more than double her body weight using a 6 day per week bodybuilding split… are you kidding me? Anyway… she is a blast to work out with! We have trained for figure AND powerlifting together and it’s always fun!

Cal - hahahahahaha! Yes I am sure that they do! That’s so funny! There is a HUGE difference between me squatting with no weight, and squatting my BODY WEIGHT! EEK! Glad we cleared that up!

Tal - thanks for the support! I actually recovered decently well from my first two go-rounds with figure. In fact, I had my best (non-competition) physique to date about 15 months after competition number two. I was eating insane amounts of food (2400-3200 calories a day…and 5-6,000 calories once a week on a cheat day) and I had quite fabulous abs (if I do say so myself =D) I also had good amounts of energy and was training a lot and sleeping well. The way my doctor described it… the first two shows beat my adrenals up quite a bit, but they were able to recover since they had not been under that much stress before… then, when I chose to compete in #3… it was the straw that broke the camel’s back, so to speak. It annihilated my adrenals to the point where they could not recover on their own… So I guess what I am trying to say is that most people can achieve a VERY GOOD, LEAN physique without side effects… but if you continuously push yourself too far, too often… the consequences can be BAD! I think that’s why many competitors have quite a short “shelf life” =D

Skye - it’s been at least 2 months since I have done them. I remember my last set being maybe 10 reps @ 80 lbs… however it was not an “all-out” set by any means and I believe I was stricter with my form (which I guess means it wasn’t a Kroc row at all… but I can’t remember the last time I did them… this instance is all I can remember) I think I would have been CAPABLE of doing 80 for 15-18 reps that day… I will have to start incorporating them again soon!

Bear - miss you too! Sad you are missing Thanksgiving! (But at least there will be some food left for the rest of us!) (oh yeah…and I am assuming you meant “verklempt…” yes? =D)

Arachne - thanks! That’s a good question! Kroc Rows are very similar to one arm dumbbell rows… but you use more momentum and more of your WHOLE body to row the weight, which allows you to use heavier weight. You also typically go for reps in the 20-30 range… although some people go up as high as 50 reps. Here is Matt “Kroc” Kroczaleski talking about them (hence, the term KROC row) :

And Kroc rowing 225 for 25!

Hey Molly!

I have been too lazy to resend my PM to you about training;) I love reading your journal, especially since I am in the same weight class currently as you were at your meet.

Anyway, I am really wondering what you find to be most successful in trying to drop weight but keep strength up. After my meet Dec. 5th I am trying to do a 8-12 week diet to drop BF. However, my goal in doing this, besides looks of course, is to get into a lower weight class for my second PL meet. So while I will start an official (and my first) PL cycle (maybe 5/3/1, maybe Westside, not sure…any suggestions?), I clearly will be incorporating a bit more cardio and definitely more bodybuilding type training/circuits. What did you follow in your first few weeks of figure prep? I do not plan on taking it to such an extreme, but clearly it is geared towards fat loss, so I am wondering what you would advise given all the negative effects you are suffering post comp.

You trip sounds sweet!

i had the same question regarding krocs vs db rows. i didn’t have time to internet search, so thank you…:slight_smile:

and i’m very interested in your response to shaunar…so nosy…:wink:

[quote]mmgalb727 wrote:
Kimba - You are so sweet! =D I am glad you are experimenting! The thing is, since your body is not static… it will probably always be a guessing game. Here are the guidelines I tend to follow: Clearly your body always needs regular mobility work… If you have lots of energy to expend and you are eating and resting enough, then you can probably handle more high intensity intervals (if you are so inclined)… if you feel like ass and/or have been sick and/or don’t feel motivated then you need rest…and finally if you are looking to cut some body fat or just notice that you need some help with your overall conditioning, then adding in some occasional cardio is a good idea (low to moderate intensity) =D And then of course we all tend to neglect things we know we need to currently be doing… UGH! So much to keep up with! =D [/quote]

That is exceptionally well-put. Sometimes its hard for me to accept that rest is what needs to happen. :wink:

[quote]shaunar25 wrote:
Hey Molly!

I have been too lazy to resend my PM to you about training;) I love reading your journal, especially since I am in the same weight class currently as you were at your meet.

Anyway, I am really wondering what you find to be most successful in trying to drop weight but keep strength up. After my meet Dec. 5th I am trying to do a 8-12 week diet to drop BF. However, my goal in doing this, besides looks of course, is to get into a lower weight class for my second PL meet. So while I will start an official (and my first) PL cycle (maybe 5/3/1, maybe Westside, not sure…any suggestions?), I clearly will be incorporating a bit more cardio and definitely more bodybuilding type training/circuits. What did you follow in your first few weeks of figure prep? I do not plan on taking it to such an extreme, but clearly it is geared towards fat loss, so I am wondering what you would advise given all the negative effects you are suffering post comp.

You trip sounds sweet!
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Shauna - for ME… someone who operates VERY well on lower carbs, I have found that dropping carbs and increasing fats is the best way for me to lose body fat. I honestly don’t lose any strength with minimal carbs… it’s only when my calories get too low than my strength starts going down the toilet. I actually did Westside for Skinny Bastards part 3 for most of my competition prep. I actually think women switching to high rep/low weight/short rest interval weight training when prepping is a bad idea… especially in the final weeks when they are very low on calories because I think it promotes muscle wasting. When on a very low calorie diet, lower overall volume and very heavy weight is what tends to retain muscle the best.

If you do well on a low carb diet, then I would try something similar to the AD… low carb, high protein, high fat (I would not be so strict about getting less than 30 grams of carbs a day though as long as they came from veggies, nuts, and protein sources like eggs or protein powder). I would also not do a 48 hour carb-up… but maybe a carb-up day every 4 days where you drop protein a little and fat A LOT and eat lots of good carb sources. One you plateau, you can make this a HALF carb-up day or make it every 5-6 days. (if you do a half carb up day… keep fat minimal during your carb-up, and in the evening, stick to protein, veggies, and a LITTLE fat… but still not as much as you would for an AD-type meal… maybe 8-10 grams?)

If you need carbs almost daily, then have them for a meal in the morning and then some before and/or after training. You can lower the amount of carbs you are having with each meal or eliminate one of the carb meals (morning/before training/after training) when you start to plateau.

For cardio… I would stick to low intensity for the most part. Light sled dragging, walking, walking with a weighted vest, etc. You could maybe do 1 high intensity session a week… but cut it out if you feel like it’s beating you up too much. You could do “active recovery” circuits where you do 8-10 exercises back to back with little rest and minimal or no weight… but i would probably only do those once a week (remember the muscle wasting comment above) Unless they end up being low intensity… then by all means keep them up. Finally, I would add in LOTS of NEPA (non-exercise physical activity)… a LOT of stretching, mobility work, pre-hab… just extra movement so you are expending more calories without affecting your workouts. Also make sure you sleep a LOT and supplement with ZMA, fish oil, blah blah blah… you know the drill.

I have only prepped for a competition using 5/3/1 and really liked it… but felt sore all the time! seriously… I would do 2 exercises and be sore for days! But I definitely got stronger using it and had a blast!

So… hope this helps! I will follow your journal and see how you are doing! =D

[quote]mmgalb727 wrote:
shaunar25 wrote:
Hey Molly!

I have been too lazy to resend my PM to you about training;) I love reading your journal, especially since I am in the same weight class currently as you were at your meet.

Anyway, I am really wondering what you find to be most successful in trying to drop weight but keep strength up. After my meet Dec. 5th I am trying to do a 8-12 week diet to drop BF. However, my goal in doing this, besides looks of course, is to get into a lower weight class for my second PL meet. So while I will start an official (and my first) PL cycle (maybe 5/3/1, maybe Westside, not sure…any suggestions?), I clearly will be incorporating a bit more cardio and definitely more bodybuilding type training/circuits. What did you follow in your first few weeks of figure prep? I do not plan on taking it to such an extreme, but clearly it is geared towards fat loss, so I am wondering what you would advise given all the negative effects you are suffering post comp.

You trip sounds sweet!

Shauna - for ME… someone who operates VERY well on lower carbs, I have found that dropping carbs and increasing fats is the best way for me to lose body fat. I honestly don’t lose any strength with minimal carbs… it’s only when my calories get too low than my strength starts going down the toilet. I actually did Westside for Skinny Bastards part 3 for most of my competition prep. I actually think women switching to high rep/low weight/short rest interval weight training when prepping is a bad idea… especially in the final weeks when they are very low on calories because I think it promotes muscle wasting. When on a very low calorie diet, lower overall volume and very heavy weight is what tends to retain muscle the best.

If you do well on a low carb diet, then I would try something similar to the AD… low carb, high protein, high fat (I would not be so strict about getting less than 30 grams of carbs a day though as long as they came from veggies, nuts, and protein sources like eggs or protein powder). I would also not do a 48 hour carb-up… but maybe a carb-up day every 4 days where you drop protein a little and fat A LOT and eat lots of good carb sources. One you plateau, you can make this a HALF carb-up day or make it every 5-6 days. (if you do a half carb up day… keep fat minimal during your carb-up, and in the evening, stick to protein, veggies, and a LITTLE fat… but still not as much as you would for an AD-type meal… maybe 8-10 grams?)

If you need carbs almost daily, then have them for a meal in the morning and then some before and/or after training. You can lower the amount of carbs you are having with each meal or eliminate one of the carb meals (morning/before training/after training) when you start to plateau.

For cardio… I would stick to low intensity for the most part. Light sled dragging, walking, walking with a weighted vest, etc. You could maybe do 1 high intensity session a week… but cut it out if you feel like it’s beating you up too much. You could do “active recovery” circuits where you do 8-10 exercises back to back with little rest and minimal or no weight… but i would probably only do those once a week (remember the muscle wasting comment above) Unless they end up being low intensity… then by all means keep them up. Finally, I would add in LOTS of NEPA (non-exercise physical activity)… a LOT of stretching, mobility work, pre-hab… just extra movement so you are expending more calories without affecting your workouts. Also make sure you sleep a LOT and supplement with ZMA, fish oil, blah blah blah… you know the drill.

I have only prepped for a competition using 5/3/1 and really liked it… but felt sore all the time! seriously… I would do 2 exercises and be sore for days! But I definitely got stronger using it and had a blast!

So… hope this helps! I will follow your journal and see how you are doing! =D[/quote]

Molly, thanks! This is great advice. All the more reason for me to really start doing some reading on 5/3/1.

I had actually just started the AD and was loving it a few weeks before I decided to do this meet. However, I have had to put it aside for the moment because my training has become so intense. Since I have started training for this meet 2 1/2 weeks ago and it is in a week and a half, I have had to get moving on EVERYTHING, which means pulling for 1 RMs for the first time on all my lifts, quite frequently (nothing crazy, just trying to see where my lifts are at). So right now, I am basically following the AD for about 4 of my meals, but eating carbs PWO, sometimes in the morning, but most importantly, when I feel my body needs them. So it has been awesome, but draining, and my body started craving carbs…and I let it have them!
But definitely going back on the AD for my diet down.

BTW, What do you do for work? PT? And what did you get your MBA in? I ask because I am at a point where I am evaluating what it is I really want to do and achieve and nothing makes me happier than being healthy, fit, strong, and spreading the word. I have my BA in Art History, but would love to get a Masters in a health related field (not sure). I have been looking into PT, but do not want to go the route of a 24 HR fitness trainer, so I am trying to find out what it is people do and how they go about it. If you have the time, I would be interested to hear about it.

Joey Smith posted one of your kroc row video’s on elitefts.com, not sure if you know or not, but that’s what got me to check out the vids and your log, great stuff and keep up the good work! Love to see a woman who’s not afraid to get strong, and it’s amazing, you still have a great figure!!! Keep up the good work, stay strong, and God Bless.