Hello fellas,
Thinking of trying this stack. Got it from an article here. Has anyone tried this or have any info. Just moved to Chicago. Thank you.
“I like to see a blend of 50mg Masteron (drostanolone propionate)/50mg Eq Propionate/50mg Test Propionate shot four times the first week and three times each following week. Anavar could be added at 15-30mg/day”
Here is the article:
Read the stickies please
hi Bone,
Brand new to posting. What is a sticky? Thanks.
[quote]Angusharris wrote:
hi Bone,
Brand new to posting. What is a sticky? Thanks.[/quote]
start with that, read it all.
MMA cycle? WTF is that supposed to mean? There is no all-encompossing cycle for everyone who trains UFC. People still have individual goals and requirements to meet within their respective sports. The type of training you do and your diet will have as much to do with your particular sport than any specicfic AAS combo. I would agree that certain athletes should often prefer one androgen over another, but an “MMA cycle”, no.
BTW you didn’t actually post a cycle to crtique, and what info you did offer is crap. You sure you read that in an article on T-Nation?
You wait till J-J/Brook finds this thread!
[quote]Bondslave wrote:
MMA cycle? WTF is that supposed to mean? There is no all-encompossing cycle for everyone who trains UFC. People still have individual goals and requirements to meet within their respective sports.
The type of training you do and your diet will have more to do with your particular sport than any specicfic AAS combo. I would agree that certain athletes should often prefer one androgen over another, but an “MMA cycle”, no.
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Clearly, this guys’ an idiot, but what you just wrote isn’t entirely correct, either.
He told us what he’s training for, and that certainly comes into play with AAS cycle planning. For example, he will most definitely want to avoid tren due to it’s effect on your cardiovascular ability. He may also want to throw in something like halotestin for it’s aggression and strength effects on fight day.
[quote]WyldFlower wrote:
You wait till J-J/Brook finds this thread![/quote]
I, for one, can’t wait until he finds you.
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
He told us what he’s training for, and that certainly comes into play with AAS cycle planning. For example, he will most definitely want to avoid tren due to it’s effect on your cardiovascular ability. He may also want to throw in something like halotestin for it’s aggression and strength effects on fight day.[/quote]
I think I covered that, though not in detail, but perhaps you don’t get it. It’s cool.
[quote]WyldFlower wrote:
You wait till J-J/Brook finds this thread![/quote]
GTFO
[quote]Bondslave wrote:
MMA cycle? WTF is that supposed to mean? There is no all-encompossing cycle for everyone who trains UFC. People still have individual goals and requirements to meet within their respective sports.
The type of training you do and your diet will have more to do with your particular sport than any specicfic AAS combo. I would agree that certain athletes should often prefer one androgen over another, but an “MMA cycle”, no.
BTW you didn’t actually post a cycle to crtique, and what info you did offer is crap. You sure you read that in an article on T-Nation?[/quote]
He made one post, didn’t demand information be fed to him, and appears to have a decent attitude. Cut some slack.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
He made one post, didn’t demand information be fed to him, and appears to have a decent attitude. Cut some slack. [/quote]
Him referring to this stack as an MMA cycle irritated me. Maybe he should cut me some slack and educate himself more. Lest I be irritated. You wouldn’t like me when I’m irritated.
But seriously, he asked for a cycle critque without actually posting a cycle, and the info he did give shows a complete lack of any understanding of these compounds it seemed to me. So why not make the thread more useful and post my thoughts on an “MMA cycle”. Seemed like a good idea at the time anyway.
Looks like some of you guys are on halo 
Good.
Got the info from an article on this website. Just curious if anyone had taken the advice, etc. I took Bone’s advice and have been reading.
I train very hard and have for awhile. I am 39 yrs old and DO NOT COMPETE ANYMORE. Just want to try some gear and see if I can get stronger with out a lot of weight gain, lose fat and keep my cardio. After reading, I may explore a test prop cycle. Keep it simple so you guys don’t yell at me anymore. Here is the link.
how am I an idiot for asking about advice given on this website, etc? Just curious.
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
He told us what he’s training for, and that certainly comes into play with AAS cycle planning. For example, he will most definitely want to avoid tren due to it’s effect on your cardiovascular ability. He may also want to throw in something like halotestin for it’s aggression and strength effects on fight day.[/quote]
I agree with you here about tren and the like, and I think it was implicit from my post, but since it may have gone over some heads let me elaborate:
Saying you train MMA is not enough information to be giving him any real advice. Is it a hobby or is he training as a pro? Is he 6 months from a fight or 6 weeks? Is he looking to go up a weight class or remain in his current one? How old is he? Has he done any previous cycles?
Will he be drug tested? Does he want to get bigger and stronger or just be able to train two-a-days of technique and sparring six days per week and still be able to recover? It’s not the same as coming here and saying, “hey guys I want to get freakin huge, is this a good stack?”.
What you mentioned of tren and halo may be correct, but I never said it wasn’t. You assume it wasn’t considered in my respone.
Giving us the names of 4 compounds with no cycle outline and calling it an MMA cycle annoys me. So what?
This is the worst forum I’ve come across as far as message delays. I post something and it doesn’t pop up for 30 minutes and then there are 4 more posts I didn’t see.
Bond,
The article was a bit general. I should not have assumed members knew the details. I do understand your point. I am 39, 5’11, 190, 13% to 15% bodyfat. I focus on cardio (sprints, heavybag work, Calisthenics) three times a week and lift three times a week, take Sunday off.
Some cardio days I run in the AM and box in the PM. I want to gain lean mass and lose bodyfat. I do not want to gain much weight. I do not fight anymore so prepping for a fight is not my concern. I am also really sore after workouts.
My diet is great and I take fish oil and turmeric to combat inflammation. It helps a little. Joints feel good, seems to be muscle soreness that gets me. This would be my first cycle.
Great man, that info will allow people to help you better. Though I think you have a lot more research to do before starting a cycle, as the guys suggested, reading the stickies and understanding them will go a long way in getting you started.
For what it’s worth, you should be looking at something more like a test only cycle, or at the most a test + one other compound cycle to start. Considering your sport I think people would suggest things like masteron and anavar (if you can afford the latter), but definitely not more than one of those for your first cycle.
There is certainly some wisdom in the idea of doing test only for a first timer so you know how your body reacts to it. By all means forget about doing this 3-4 compound stack.
Just for an idea (or better yet an example of how to post your proposed cycle):
Test Prop injected ED (as you research you will find out why it’s ED) to the tune of around 500-600mg per week for 8-10 weeks.
Week 1-8:
Test Prop 75mg ED
Arimidex .5mg EOD
Week 10-13:
Nolvadex with a 40,40,20,20 taper
Then a nice little second cycle being more like:
Test Prop 200mg/week
Masteron Prop 400mg/week
Adex
Nolva
Bonds,
Thanks. I did narrow it down to Test prop and the ED kept coming up. Keeps blood levels stable, less side effects, etc. Anavar seems simple also, but expensive and I do not have a source, so it may be hard to find.
I’ll keep researching Test prop. I’m curious to see how it will effect my cardio. Since I’m not fighting I can experiment and not worry about gassing and getting my ass kicked. Again, thanks for the info and example.