Mixing Routines

[quote]ajs02f wrote:
sam_sneed wrote:
You should probably post in the beginners section. You’ll get less harsh responses.

Huh? First off, although I may be new to the forum, I am certainly not a beginner with lifting.

Regardless, no excuse for someone saying “Go kill yourself.” How old are you guys?[/quote]

I didn’t make an excuse for someone saying “Go kill yourself”. I wouldn’t defend such a stupid response.

But you seem to have taken it as more than a stupid response over the internet and responded by criticizing the entire forum. So as I said, you’ll get less harsh responses in the beginners section. Experienced lifters respond there as well.

[quote]PatMac wrote:
Itchy wrote:
29. And if you are that easily offended by a post on an online forum, perhaps you ought to re-think your life perspective, dude.

People ask dumb-ass questions like this all the time. And if you weren’t a newb to bodybuilding, you would have enough general knowledge and experience that you would not be asking this question.

His question required a “yes” or “no” answer.

Why do you get so offended by people asking what you feel are stupid questions? At 29 it may be time for you to re-think your life perspective. Try to have a little class and keep your trap shut when you feel the need to be a dick.[/quote]

Why don’t you get off his nuts? And who got offended, dude?

Sorry, but it WAS a stupid question. Especially when asked in a bodybuilding forum and followed up with a declaration of nonnewbitude by the OP. If you don’t see that, then I sincerely doubt you are someone whos opinion is worth worrying about.

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
ajs02f wrote:
sam_sneed wrote:

I didn’t make an excuse for someone saying “Go kill yourself”. I wouldn’t defend such a stupid response.
.[/quote]

But I said “please”.

[quote]Itchy wrote:
Why don’t you get off his nuts? And who got offended, dude?

Sorry, but it WAS a stupid question. Especially when asked in a bodybuilding forum and followed up with a declaration of nonnewbitude by the OP. If you don’t see that, then I sincerely doubt you are someone whos opinion is worth worrying about.[/quote]

Dude, you take the time to tell him to kill himself and then you take the time to tell him his question is stupid. Dude, for some reason he got to you and you’re on his ass for it, driving it in harder and deeper each time. Dude.

[quote]PatMac wrote:
Itchy wrote:
Why don’t you get off his nuts? And who got offended, dude?

Sorry, but it WAS a stupid question. Especially when asked in a bodybuilding forum and followed up with a declaration of nonnewbitude by the OP. If you don’t see that, then I sincerely doubt you are someone whos opinion is worth worrying about.

Dude, you take the time to tell him to kill himself and then you take the time to tell him his question is stupid. Dude, for some reason he got to you and you’re on his ass for it, driving it in harder and deeper each time. Dude.[/quote]

Speaking of harder and deeper, why don’t you pull your needle dick out of his ass for a minute, hero?

Nothing’s worse than online Trolls e-buttfucking each other.

[quote]Itchy wrote:
PatMac wrote:
Itchy wrote:
Why don’t you get off his nuts? And who got offended, dude?

Sorry, but it WAS a stupid question. Especially when asked in a bodybuilding forum and followed up with a declaration of nonnewbitude by the OP. If you don’t see that, then I sincerely doubt you are someone whos opinion is worth worrying about.

Dude, you take the time to tell him to kill himself and then you take the time to tell him his question is stupid. Dude, for some reason he got to you and you’re on his ass for it, driving it in harder and deeper each time. Dude.

why don’t you pull your needle dick out of his ass for a minute, hero?

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Sweetheart, bite a pillow, relax and you’ll be a women soon.

[quote]PatMac wrote:
Itchy wrote:
PatMac wrote:
Itchy wrote:
Why don’t you get off his nuts? And who got offended, dude?

Sorry, but it WAS a stupid question. Especially when asked in a bodybuilding forum and followed up with a declaration of nonnewbitude by the OP. If you don’t see that, then I sincerely doubt you are someone whos opinion is worth worrying about.

Dude, you take the time to tell him to kill himself and then you take the time to tell him his question is stupid. Dude, for some reason he got to you and you’re on his ass for it, driving it in harder and deeper each time. Dude.

why don’t you pull your needle dick out of his ass for a minute, hero?

Sweetheart, bite a pillow, relax and you’ll be a women soon.[/quote]

Damn, if I had known you were gonna start hitting on me I would’ve told you just KEEP your dick in OP’s ass. I ain’t one of your people, Sally.

[quote]Itchy wrote:
Damn, if I had known you were gonna start hitting on me I would’ve told you just KEEP your dick in OP’s ass. I ain’t one of your people, Sally.

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You should have just told me to kill myself, darling.

By the way, have you ever tried doing full body workouts on the weekend while using splits during the week?

…soooo what was the question again???

[quote]PatMac wrote:
Itchy wrote:
Damn, if I had known you were gonna start hitting on me I would’ve told you just KEEP your dick in OP’s ass. I ain’t one of your people, Sally.

You should have just told me to kill myself, darling.

By the way, have you ever tried doing full body workouts on the weekend while using splits during the week?[/quote]

No, I’ve never had any reason to. I have known people to use a similar approach, though–during times when their schedules dictated that they spend less time in the gym. Why?

[quote]Itchy wrote:
No, I’ve never had any reason to. I have known people to use a similar approach, though–during times when their schedules dictated that they spend less time in the gym. Why?
[/quote]

We seemed to be getting along so well I figured I would ask.

I have too, and found that muscle growth is better achieved through splits.

It’s been a pleasure chatting with you!

I don’t see why that was such a stupid question. The split v. tbt debate is hot right now, so I was just curious if anyone has ever experomented with mixing the two.

[quote]ajs02f wrote:
I don’t see why that was such a stupid question. The split v. tbt debate is hot right now, so I was just curious if anyone has ever experomented with mixing the two.

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I’ve done a routine for Size and Strength once, but thats the closest I got to a hybrid routine. worked well.

I’m sure someone has experimented with it, question is if they are reading this thread or not. If you want a good answer, maybe post your question up on the authors locker room.

[quote]ajs02f wrote:
I don’t see why that was such a stupid question. The split v. tbt debate is hot right now, so I was just curious if anyone has ever experomented with mixing the two.

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It’s stupid because, what are you asking? Whether splitting the body up during the week and following up with a full-body will net results? Anyone who understands the basic principles of this game would not have to ask this. Your goals, schedule and priorities will determine what type of split you should use, how much volume, frequency, etc.

If you like this split and can progress on it then that is all that matter. No one, including me, can tell you whether this is the best approach for YOU.

That said, what would be the point of setting up your training that way? Just wondering.

[quote]ajs02f wrote:
I don’t see why that was such a stupid question. The split v. tbt debate is hot right now, so I was just curious if anyone has ever experomented with mixing the two.

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It isn’t a hot debate on this board anyway, it’s a polarized thing. If you want to max muscle growth, splits are likely the best approach REGARDLESS of what some of the authors say. If you don’t believe me, look at the physical size of those who advocate for splits vs. those who advocate for full body training.

Ask those who are big and do full body how they got to be that size and you’ll hear most of them say they did splits until they got to be as big as they wanted, now I do full body training.

There really isn’t much debate about it. Full body is great for conditioning, some muscle growth, and general fitness, it isn’t great for making a small person a massive person.

[quote]Itchy wrote:
ajs02f wrote:
I don’t see why that was such a stupid question. The split v. tbt debate is hot right now, so I was just curious if anyone has ever experomented with mixing the two.

It’s stupid because, what are you asking? Whether splitting the body up during the week and following up with a full-body will net results? Anyone who understands the basic principles of this game would not have to ask this. Your goals, schedule and priorities will determine what type of split you should use, how much volume, frequency, etc.

If you like this split and can progress on it then that is all that matter. No one, including me, can tell you whether this is the best approach for YOU.

That said, what would be the point of setting up your training that way? Just wondering.

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+1

[quote]PatMac Wrote:
It isn’t a hot debate on this board anyway, it’s a polarized thing. If you want to max muscle growth, splits are likely the best approach REGARDLESS of what some of the authors say. If you don’t believe me, look at the physical size of those who advocate for splits vs. those who advocate for full body training.

Ask those who are big and do full body how they got to be that size and you’ll hear most of them say they did splits until they got to be as big as they wanted, now I do full body training.

There really isn’t much debate about it. Full body is great for conditioning, some muscle growth, and general fitness, it isn’t great for making a small person a massive person.
[/quote]

+1 again

[quote]Itchy wrote:
ajs02f wrote:
I don’t see why that was such a stupid question. The split v. tbt debate is hot right now, so I was just curious if anyone has ever experomented with mixing the two.

It’s stupid because, what are you asking? Whether splitting the body up during the week and following up with a full-body will net results? Anyone who understands the basic principles of this game would not have to ask this. Your goals, schedule and priorities will determine what type of split you should use, how much volume, frequency, etc.

If you like this split and can progress on it then that is all that matter. No one, including me, can tell you whether this is the best approach for YOU.

That said, what would be the point of setting up your training that way? Just wondering.

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What that so hard bro?

I honestly was just curious. Most of the Men’s Health forum are TBT advocates, most people here seem to be split advocates. Both make compelling arguments. The quesions of whether anyone has ever tried both just simply popped into my head. There’s no sinister motivation behind it, I’m not doubting the infinite wisdom of those on this board. I just honestly wanted to know if i was the only one to ever wonder this.

To me, it would seem a good way to incorporate the positives of both styles. However, I understand that I am not an expert so I opted to ask around. Unexpectedly though, I walked into a buzzsaw.

[quote]ajs02f wrote:
I honestly was just curious. Most of the Men’s Health forum are TBT advocates, most people here seem to be split advocates. Both make compelling arguments. The quesions of whether anyone has ever tried both just simply popped into my head. There’s no sinister motivation behind it, I’m not doubting the infinite wisdom of those on this board. I just honestly wanted to know if i was the only one to ever wonder this.

To me, it would seem a good way to incorporate the positives of both styles. However, I understand that I am not an expert so I opted to ask around. Unexpectedly though, I walked into a buzzsaw.

[/quote]

The opportunity cost of a total body workout is either a recovery day from an intense body part workout, or an intense body part workout; combining these methods isn’t going to give you the best of both worlds.

Most of the replies to you on this thread were informative and useful. In fact, percentage wise, the replies you got were better than most threads like this so I’d say you didn’t get buzzsawed.

You might now though, cause you brought up men’s health…

[quote]ajs02f wrote:
Itchy wrote:
ajs02f wrote:
I don’t see why that was such a stupid question. The split v. tbt debate is hot right now, so I was just curious if anyone has ever experomented with mixing the two.

It’s stupid because, what are you asking? Whether splitting the body up during the week and following up with a full-body will net results? Anyone who understands the basic principles of this game would not have to ask this. Your goals, schedule and priorities will determine what type of split you should use, how much volume, frequency, etc.

If you like this split and can progress on it then that is all that matter. No one, including me, can tell you whether this is the best approach for YOU.

That said, what would be the point of setting up your training that way? Just wondering.

What that so hard bro?

I honestly was just curious. Most of the Men’s Health forum are TBT advocates, most people here seem to be split advocates. Both make compelling arguments. The quesions of whether anyone has ever tried both just simply popped into my head. There’s no sinister motivation behind it, I’m not doubting the infinite wisdom of those on this board. I just honestly wanted to know if i was the only one to ever wonder this.

To me, it would seem a good way to incorporate the positives of both styles. However, I understand that I am not an expert so I opted to ask around. Unexpectedly though, I walked into a buzzsaw.

[/quote]

Funny, and I consider myself one of the nicer people on this board :slight_smile:

The “positives” of both styles are irrelevant, though. Both approaches will work. Doing a hybrid program or whatever will work. Going into your backyard and throwing around bags full of gravel will work. What matters the MOST, and what most people tend to focus on the LEAST, is progression.

The question you asked is like asking whether you can build a pb and J sandwich bymixing the pb&j together and injecting in between the bread with a turkey baster. Can it be done? Sure. Will it still taste good? More than likely, provided the PB to jelly ratio is optimal. Was this the best way to go about it? Maybe, maybe not. Either way, you’ve still got a sandwich. Not because of the method you used, but because it’s two pieces of bread with some yummy-ass fucking shit in the middle of it.

[quote]PatMac wrote:
Most of the replies to you on this thread were informative and useful. In fact, percentage wise, the replies you got were better than most threads like this so I’d say you didn’t get buzzsawed.

You might now though, cause you brought up men’s health…[/quote]

I already told the guy to kill himself, so I figured I’d let the Men’s Health thing slide
:slight_smile: