NEW YORK (AP) – George Mitchell’s report on drugs in baseball will finger MVPs and All-Stars and call for beefed-up testing by an outside agency to clean up the game, The Associated Press learned Wednesday.
The report will not address amphetamines, which long have been recognized as part of the baseball drug culture, two sources with knowledge of the findings told the AP. But it will include names of 60 to 80 players linked to performance-enhancing substances and plenty more information that exposes “deep problems” in a drug culture that plagues the sport, one of the sources said.
Mitchell, a Boston Red Sox director who is a former Senate majority leader, planned to release his report at 2 p.m. Thursday at a news conference in New York City.
Baseball commissioner Bud Selig will hold his own news conference 2 1/2 hours later.
possibly a reason why the orioles finally pulled the trigger on a tejada trade.
I will be thrilled if curt schilling’s name is on that list. Then maybe he’ll stop attacking everyone on his blog.
Some names I don’t want to see on the list:
Paul O’neil, David Ortiz, tony gywnn, edgar martinez, manny ramirez, tony clark, brian roberts, eric brynes, Ken Griffey Jr., jon franco
Dave Malecki (spelling?) is another name i’d like to see on that list just because my best friend whose a met fan still rubs it in my face that he shut out the yanks in the first subway series interleague play game.
It’s hard (but fun) to predict whose gonna be on the list. Here’s my All-Mitchell team.
Cathcer: Piazza
First Base: Tino Martinez
Second Base: Brett Boone
Short Stop: miguel tejada (the jose canseco/mark mcgwire effect in oakland)
thirdbase: eric chavez (the jose canseco/mark mcgwire effect in oakland)
LF: Moises Alou (if he would pee on his hands for an advantage he’d do anything)
CF: Brady Anderson
RF: Jack Cust
SP: Roger Clemens
RP: Amondo Benetiz
Horable Mention: Adrian Beltre, Bobby Abreau, Adam Dunn, Curt Schilling
Well, good call on Clemens as it was leaked earlier today that he is indeed on the list. The Yankees are supposed to be “hit hard” by this thing. That makes sense since the guy who ratted out Clemens was a former trainer for him and the rest of the Yankees.
I’m not sure how this can be considered at all comprehensive with, from what I understand, limited sources (an Orlando-based company selling the stuff, a clubhouse attendant with the Mets, and the aforementioned Yankees trainer). I also seriously question the objectivity of Senator Mitchell as a director of the Red Sox.
I really don’t think there’s anything that will keep Schilling from running his mouth, but it would be nice…
[quote]mercury wrote:
Well, good call on Clemens as it was leaked earlier today that he is indeed on the list. The Yankees are supposed to be “hit hard” by this thing. That makes sense since the guy who ratted out Clemens was a former trainer for him and the rest of the Yankees.
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And Mitchell is heavily involved in the Red Sox. If there aren’t at least a few Red Sox named in this witchhunt then we will know how dirty it is.
Witch hunt or not, lots of hearts will be broken and names tarnished, sadly I too would have done it were I in the same position. Sports don’t build character they reveal it.
Not counting those already suspended or admitted TKO Picks:
Brady Anderson
Jeff Bagwell
Aaron and Brett Boone
Adrian Beltre
Roger Clemens
Lenny Dykstra
Carl Everett
Steven Finley
Eric Gagne
Troy Glaus
Nomar Garciaparra
Juan Gonzalez
Darryl Kile RIP
Raul Mondesi
John Rocker
Pudge Rodriguez
Kenny Rogers
Mo Vaughn
Matt Williams
Cansecos, Giambis, Sosa, BigMac and Bonds that’s just too easy.
If only I hit .500 with my picks I’ll be an All-Star.
[quote]TKOWKD1 wrote:
Witch hunt or not, lots of hearts will be broken and names tarnished, sadly I too would have done it were I in the same position. Sports don’t build character they reveal it.
Not counting those already suspended or admitted TKO Picks:
Brady Anderson
Jeff Bagwell
Aaron and Brett Boone
Adrian Beltre
Roger Clemens
Lenny Dykstra
Carl Everett
Steven Finley
Eric Gagne
Troy Glaus
Nomar Garciaparra
Juan Gonzalez
Darryl Kile RIP
Raul Mondesi
John Rocker
Pudge Rodriguez
Kenny Rogers
Mo Vaughn
Matt Williams
Cansecos, Giambis, Sosa, BigMac and Bonds that’s just too easy.
If only I hit .500 with my picks I’ll be an All-Star.
Hit .500 and you’re a shoe-in for the hall of fame.
The whole thing wears me out with it’s duplicity. I mean, the owners are clearly all about money – after all, Selig led the owners group that colluded to remove Fay Vincent in the interest of adding the wild card playoff series. The owners want butts in seats, and that comes from offense. They don’t give a flip if Barry’s head is three hat sizes bigger than five years ago. They’re entirely complicitous.
And for a politician to accuse anyone of cheating or lying smacks of a pot/kettle problem – how can anyone take them seriously?
I for one think the whole thing is a bunch of posturing to further political agendas and will mean almost nothing to the game of baseball. The owners have to choose between wanton greed and the work required to make it a clean game. The government should stay out of it.
You know, I really don’t care much about this report or this list, but I hope it has some surprises on the list. Some players that will shock the public into thinking steroids don’t always equal size and hitting. I’d like to see some real good-guy, take-pictures-with-the-babies kind of players on there. I’d like to see Glavine or Maddux on there. Oh, and I wanna see Ryan Howard on there. In 2006 so many in the media were claiming that if he hit more than 61 homers, he would be the true home run champ since he is “obviously” natural.
I just want the public to look at the list and realize that it could be anyone juicing and you can’t tell just by looks or size gained. But, really, I just don’t care much.
[quote]malonetd wrote:
You know, I really don’t care much about this report or this list, but I hope it has some surprises on the list. Some players that will shock the public into thinking steroids don’t always equal size and hitting. I’d like to see some real good-guy, take-pictures-with-the-babies kind of players on there. I’d like to see Glavine or Maddux on there. Oh, and I wanna see Ryan Howard on there. In 2006 so many in the media were claiming that if he hit more than 61 homers, he would be the true home run champ since he is “obviously” natural.
I just want the public to look at the list and realize that it could be anyone juicing and you can’t tell just by looks or size gained. But, really, I just don’t care much.[/quote]
Ditto. Wouldn’t it be great if Cal Ripken were on there ?!
[quote]malonetd wrote:
You know, I really don’t care much about this report or this list, but I hope it has some surprises on the list. Some players that will shock the public into thinking steroids don’t always equal size and hitting. I’d like to see some real good-guy, take-pictures-with-the-babies kind of players on there. I’d like to see Glavine or Maddux on there. Oh, and I wanna see Ryan Howard on there. In 2006 so many in the media were claiming that if he hit more than 61 homers, he would be the true home run champ since he is “obviously” natural.
I just want the public to look at the list and realize that it could be anyone juicing and you can’t tell just by looks or size gained. But, really, I just don’t care much.[/quote]
what are the chances that the public would look @ the list and realize that athletes are about performance and are simply trying to be the best they can be. jeesus man i look @ these potential lists and i think these guys are winners. these guys show up to work and got it done. why do you want to bring people like this down ? i suppose i’m preaching to the choir here but shit it’s so frustrating when most of these couch-potato girly fans you hear bitching about steroids can’t even make through a morning of work without their vente-latte or whatever. bitches.
[quote]malonetd wrote:
You know, I really don’t care much about this report or this list, but I hope it has some surprises on the list. Some players that will shock the public into thinking steroids don’t always equal size and hitting. I’d like to see some real good-guy, take-pictures-with-the-babies kind of players on there. I’d like to see Glavine or Maddux on there. Oh, and I wanna see Ryan Howard on there. In 2006 so many in the media were claiming that if he hit more than 61 homers, he would be the true home run champ since he is “obviously” natural.
I just want the public to look at the list and realize that it could be anyone juicing and you can’t tell just by looks or size gained. But, really, I just don’t care much.[/quote]
I’m pretty sure the first guy to get a suspension a couple years ago was ALex Sanchez. He played with the drays, tigers and whitesox. His listed weight was 180 at 5’10, but I remmeber when he got caught they said he was only 160.
It sucks that clemens is in the report cause they always talkg about how much hard work he puts in. Now peple are going to dismiss that hard work.
[quote]TKOWKD1 wrote:
Witch hunt or not, lots of hearts will be broken and names tarnished, sadly I too would have done it were I in the same position. Sports don’t build character they reveal it.
Not counting those already suspended or admitted TKO Picks:
Brady Anderson
Jeff Bagwell
Aaron and Brett Boone
Adrian Beltre
Roger Clemens
Lenny Dykstra
Carl Everett
Steven Finley
Eric Gagne
Troy Glaus
Nomar Garciaparra
Juan Gonzalez
Darryl Kile RIP
Raul Mondesi
John Rocker
Pudge Rodriguez
Kenny Rogers
Mo Vaughn
Matt Williams
Cansecos, Giambis, Sosa, BigMac and Bonds that’s just too easy.
If only I hit .500 with my picks I’ll be an All-Star.
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Troy glaus was reported to recieve steroids last year and im pretty sure matt williams admitted to it too.
[quote]Azzurri wrote:
TKOWKD1 wrote:
Witch hunt or not, lots of hearts will be broken and names tarnished, sadly I too would have done it were I in the same position. Sports don’t build character they reveal it.
Not counting those already suspended or admitted TKO Picks:
Brady Anderson
Jeff Bagwell
Aaron and Brett Boone
Adrian Beltre
Roger Clemens
Lenny Dykstra
Carl Everett
Steven Finley
Eric Gagne
Troy Glaus
Nomar Garciaparra
Juan Gonzalez
Darryl Kile RIP
Raul Mondesi
John Rocker
Pudge Rodriguez
Kenny Rogers
Mo Vaughn
Matt Williams
Cansecos, Giambis, Sosa, BigMac and Bonds that’s just too easy.
If only I hit .500 with my picks I’ll be an All-Star.[/quote]
good call on the mo vaugn, gange
Troy glaus was reported to recieve steroids last year and im pretty sure matt williams admitted to it too.
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You guys decry this report as a witchunt and then proceed to make lists of names that are, for the most part, absolutely unsubstantiated accusations? Can you be more hypocritical?
The Mitchell Report is 400 pages long. I guarantee you for legal reasons not one name listed in it is a product of supposition. There is corroborating evidence connected to every name in that report.
