I LOVE reading his posts. True magic. I wish I could read what he said on the old forum.
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Yes! While revisiting his own thread in the “bigger, stronger, leaner” forum, I realized the same. He just went on and on about his ideas about statics and Max Pyramid etc. It’s like he never replied to any questions - more like a politician, he continued to talk about his own agenda. He even replied to his own posts!
The funniest post must have been from @flappinit when he talked about his interpretation of inroading and outroading, and how others actually questioned whether he was serious or not? LOL
Maybe we should start a new thread “in loving memory of planet_healh” where people from the old forum can add their stories about him?
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This whine-a-thon has been moved to a thread of its own, in a more appropriate forum category.
While I can definitely understand initially being upset by the change from Darden’s old forum, guys, it’s been a full fucking year. Get over it. Either wrap your head around the fact that it’s changed or just move on (either from the subject or the site, whichever you want).
To still be sitting around complaining about the changed site is a literal waste of time. It’s hysterically ironic that all the guys talking about how the training conversations used to be better on the older site have wasted more time and energy in the last five days complaining instead of actually talking about any training whatsoever.
As I’ve said time and time again, there are tons of opportunities to talk about whatever you feel like. You guys are simply not interested in actually participating. That’s a fact.
Complain that forum posters were just anonymous keyboard warriors who didn’t workout? We’ve had a Feb '21 photo check-in, and the T-ransformation challenge, and an Aug '21 photo check-in… you guys participated in none of them.
Reading a training log and can’t understand what the person’s doing? Ask them.
Want more threads talking about HIT or Nautilus or Jones? Then start one! How does that need to be explained? Seriously, at this point, you’re the teenager standing in front of a fully stocked fridge complaining that there’s nothing to eat.
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We don’t typically discuss Mod/Admin actions on the forum, but just to snip this real quick…
No, nobody is banned for one single comment. You really should read my post in that thread (it’s the second-from-last, so scroll right to the bottom).
“Dissenting views” are absolutely tolerated here. Trolling is not. Several paragraphs of borderline-coherent rambling trying to explain why gravity doesn’t affect the weight of a stack, for example, would fall under that category.
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To still be sitting around complaining about the changed site is a literal waste of time. It’s hysterically ironic that all the guys talking about how the training conversations used to be better on the older site have wasted more time and energy in the last five days complaining instead of actually talking about any training whatsoever.
As I’ve said time and time again, there are tons of opportunities to talk about whatever you feel like. You guys are simply not interested in actually participating. That’s a fact.
Complain that forum posters were just anonymous keyboard warriors who didn’t workout? We’ve had a Feb '21 photo check-in, and the T-ransformation challenge, and an Aug '21 photo check-in… you guys participated in none of them.
Reading a training log and can’t understand what the person’s doing? Ask them.
Want more threads talking about HIT or Nautilus or Jones? Then start one! How
== Scott==
There’s a time to talk about training and there’s a time for other topics. At the moment this forum was the topic. It sounds like you just don’t like any criticism of your forum! Instead of listening to our gripes and possibly modifying the forum you just write us off as trouble makers. When a lot of people complain there’s usually a reason You say none of us participate? I participate on threads all the time ! My picture is my avatar. Unlike yours mine actually shows what little muscle I have. I have started threads about Nautilus and they get placed where Nautilus fans don’t easily find them. This forum is one of the better ones out there but It could be better!
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I was on the old Darden forum back in the mid 00’s. I bought the books and for a period of time was sold. Some of the things that turned me away from the forum and HIT in general was the attitude of some of the members, the constant use of the same two or three guys as examples of the superiority of HIT, and the lack of posting of actual results. It was just talk of ideas with nothing to back it up. Talking about superslow, jreps, going to failure or not, etc doesn’t mean much if you can’t show the result. I see that 15 years later, not much has changed. It’s just talking and complaining about anyone that doesn’t follow HIT.
Here, people are following high volume, low volume, strongman, powerlifting, Olympic lifting, CrossFit, etc and all are welcome. New ideas and old ideas are tossed around and inspiration is taken from a wide range of people, spanning decades. Plus there are dozens, if not more, pictures of people showing the results of their work.
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==Scott==
I agree with a lot of this! I was constantly complaining about the old forum and threatened to leave it several times so in no way was the old forum perfect! I follow HIT but I was constantly preaching I got my best results with methods other than HIT. It’s just one of many ways to build muscle and not nessesarily the best.
I’ve never had any problem with constructive criticism of the forum, but what I’m seeing here is 12 months of whining that the old forum was shut down, whining how much they liked the old forum, and whining how the new forum is different.
The forum is not going to be modified to accommodate five or six guys.
“A lot of people” aren’t complaining. A literal handful of people have been unable to adapt to change.
I do appreciate your decision to add an avatar, regardless of when that pic was taken, and wish more members (new and old) would do similar. Avatars can be changed on a whim, but still, it’s a really good start. My avatar is a screenshot from a lifting video I did.
I posted a unflexed/unposed physique pic in the recent Photo check-in thread, just like I’ve done twice a year for the last nine years, because I felt it important to participate in that side of the community here. But don’t worry, I’ll still use my unmuscled physique to explain the parts of training you find confusing while offering advice you don’t put into action.
Did you mean the Nautilus thread you started that got 240+ replies or the Nautilus thread you started that got 260+ replies? People seemed to have no problem finding either one.
Thanks. I’m open to hearing how it could be better.
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Scott, flat out you have a VERY high opinion of yourself if you view your leaving of a free online community as a threat rather than a mere statement or offer.
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I’ve stopped posting on your forum, because I’m not comfortable with moderators moving my posts to other parts of the site…. The moderators apparently think that I should be more open minded about other high volume approaches espoused on the site, but my interest in that site, with very few exceptions begins and ends with your forum.
== Scott==
A while back I asked the same question to Ricky and the above is what he wrote. I know exactly what he means and I agree with him on other parts of this forum. If Darden wasn’t on here you wouldn’t ever catch me on here!
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Ricky has a YouTube channel where he posts workouts. Some good stuff
This forum is moving more and more away from darden
I don’t know if you ever visited the old forum. But it seemed like a lot of the active participants were fans of Darden, but had moved away from strictly following his training programs. There were a number of people doing lower volume multiple set routines, which they said were still HIT inspired or influenced, because they were still doing short workouts, chasing failure, and not training that frequently. So the mix here does not seem all that different to me.
Oh, this topic again. Yay. 
I’ll make one reply before strongly suggesting everyone take their kvetching to an already running thread where they can go all-out talking about the change: Missing the Old Darden Forum
Nope, it’s literally the opposite. The forum has very much opened up to incorporate Dr. Darden’s info and to welcome the members interested in it.
The problem, as I’ve said literally countless times before, is that many of the new-to-T Nation members are the ones stamping their feet and digging in their heels saying “We don’t wanna talk with new people”, and failing to adapt to the fact that the Ellington Darden Coaching Forum is not a general purpose training forum like you had on the old site.
Threads that aren’t about Dr. Darden’s work can, have, and will be moved to more appropriate sections of the site. That’s really not such a big deal, especially considering the fact that, when I started a thread to discuss and define “HIT”, dozens of members (both T Nation regulars and old-Darden-site transfers) basically agreed on the key points.
There’s plenty of common ground and no legitimate reason to avoid the rest of the site if you actually want to talk training (or, heaven forbid, learn something).
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I get it, you have to tow the company line. Instead of focusing on threads you say should be moved to the “missing darden” thread, police these posts for non Darden examples. Let’s see, people debating Fortitude, dc and wendler have taken over numerous of these posts. Those are the ones that come right to mind. Given time I could point out probably a dozen threads that went off the rails. I shouldn’t have to read about that here 
.Why don’t you jump in and chastise them?
He just gets into a defense attorney tizzy when someone complains about his wonderful forum especially when they compare it to the old forum , wa wa , my forum is better!! Don’t say bad things about my forum!! The best kind of forum is one with very little moderation , where people can say what they want within reason , when and where they want with out the fear of being shuttled off to some never never land spot that nobody looks at or the fear of being criticized buy the moderator. The top thread on the Darden section is where people look to see stuff related to Darden training, not some other thread buried in another section.
People discussing other training options in a thread titled “training other than whole body hitt” where the original poster explicitly mentions non darden options in his first post. Oh the horror…
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Why dont you threaten to leave that may change things…
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