[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Actually, there was an article on here several months ago that showed something along these lines to be true. If I remember correctly, a study was performed using egg protein that showed the body can only absorb about 25 grams of protein at one time. I think it said you just piss the rest out or something like that. But that was for egg protein, not whey. I have no clue if the same holds true for whey protein.[/quote]
I’m sorry if I come off as sounding like a bit of a dick, but you (and a lot of other people who have read and tried to quote this article) really misunderstood what the article says. The article says that amounts above 20 grams of egg protein did not increase the rate of protein synthesis. This has absolutely nothing to do with digestion of the food you’ve consumed, or how much of what you consume is utilized, this just means that the rate, how quickly or slowly something is being used, will not be effected, not the overall consumption of raw material. You still need to provide the raw material for your body to produce new tissues, just because the rate of production isn’t increasing doesn’t mean that more protein can’t be consumed or wont be used, it just means that eating more wont increase the rate at which protein synthesis occurs. [/quote]
My bad.[/quote]
2x
Note to self : read ALL the thread posts before posting hastely
[quote]mcj1013 wrote:
My experience with GNC is that they’ll just try and sell whatever they can to you whether you need it or not. They’ll also tell you whatever bullshit they can to get you to buy it. For all you know they could have an incentive that day to sell out of the rest of their stock of a certain product, so their going to tell you whatever they can to sell out of it as fast as they can. I don’t believe a word anyone in there says.[/quote]
[quote]polo77j wrote:
I think everyone is completely overlooking on important question: Why the hell would you give up arguing with stupid people for Lent?[/quote]
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Extremepain wrote:
So I was at GNC and was talking with the employee working (a petite female) about protein. She told me that I can only use 28 grams of protein at a time. I gave up arguing with stupid people for Lent so I was like “Oh, right.” WTF though? So if I eat a large piece of chicken and drink a glass of milk in the same meal, it’s a waste?
If I had given that up for Lent, I would have died by now.[quote]
I used to work at a GNC (30% discount + hot manager = score) and yeah, they make you do a bunch of stupid “training” modules that are supposed to get people up to par with EVERYTHING that is in the store. But it generally was a waste of time. For people that knew what they wanted and just needed help finding it, that was no problem. But fat asses that returned a bottle with 3 pills left from xenadrine or some other fat burner because it didn’t work, those people are frustrating. I could sell you a perfect supp regimine, tell you what to do, but if you just sit on your fat ass all day and not actually do any damn work (a four letter word) then this is just a waste of your money man.
90% of people working in vitamin stores are just salespeople that don’t really know dick.
I wasn’t a good salesperson though. I don’t like to try to bullshit people into buying a bottle of crap that doesn’t work or they don’t need.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Actually, there was an article on here several months ago that showed something along these lines to be true. If I remember correctly, a study was performed using egg protein that showed the body can only absorb about 25 grams of protein at one time. I think it said you just piss the rest out or something like that. But that was for egg protein, not whey. I have no clue if the same holds true for whey protein.[/quote]
I’m sorry if I come off as sounding like a bit of a dick, but you (and a lot of other people who have read and tried to quote this article) really misunderstood what the article says. The article says that amounts above 20 grams of egg protein did not increase the rate of protein synthesis. This has absolutely nothing to do with digestion of the food you’ve consumed, or how much of what you consume is utilized, this just means that the rate, how quickly or slowly something is being used, will not be effected, not the overall consumption of raw material. You still need to provide the raw material for your body to produce new tissues, just because the rate of production isn’t increasing doesn’t mean that more protein can’t be consumed or wont be used, it just means that eating more wont increase the rate at which protein synthesis occurs. [/quote]
Good response.
I was going to post something along the same line, but you did a better job and saved me time.
This is just another example of people taking research out of context.
[quote]Extremepain wrote:
So I was at GNC and was talking with the employee working (a petite female) about protein. She told me that I can only use 28 grams of protein at a time. I gave up arguing with stupid people for Lent so I was like “Oh, right.” WTF though? So if I eat a large piece of chicken and drink a glass of milk in the same meal, it’s a waste?
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Not only is that not correct, that does not make sense from a GNC store perspective. If I was GNC store owner or representative of GNC I’d be telling everyone the optimal amount of protein is 400 grams a day, split over three meals, three shakes, and a few protein bars through out the day. Duh, if GNC says it’s optimal, then people are going to come to my store and buy more protein, revenue goes up.
takes 7g of leucine in a protein to stimulate maximum protein synthesis, some foods have a higher ratio of leucine than others. for a chicken breast is something like 41g of protein worth.
your body still uses the rest of the protein if it needs it, you just cant incite more protein synthesis to occur.
besides if you eat a giant ass steak, how many hours does that take to break down?
when people say that 30g thing, im imagining they have some sort of retard looney toons concept of the digestive system where the food drops in and then just dissolves immediately.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Actually, there was an article on here several months ago that showed something along these lines to be true. If I remember correctly, a study was performed using egg protein that showed the body can only absorb about 25 grams of protein at one time. I think it said you just piss the rest out or something like that. But that was for egg protein, not whey. I have no clue if the same holds true for whey protein.[/quote]
I’m sorry if I come off as sounding like a bit of a dick, but you (and a lot of other people who have read and tried to quote this article) really misunderstood what the article says. The article says that amounts above 20 grams of egg protein did not increase the rate of protein synthesis. This has absolutely nothing to do with digestion of the food you’ve consumed, or how much of what you consume is utilized, this just means that the rate, how quickly or slowly something is being used, will not be effected, not the overall consumption of raw material. You still need to provide the raw material for your body to produce new tissues, just because the rate of production isn’t increasing doesn’t mean that more protein can’t be consumed or wont be used, it just means that eating more wont increase the rate at which protein synthesis occurs. [/quote]
Thank you very much for posting that because I too was confused when I read that article. I kept thinking why the hell am I drinking this 40g protein shake if only 20g is going to be used haha.
Thats one of the problems with our knowledge society today, the misinformation consumers are getting by people who only have their own motives. At the end of the day GNC is a store and a company like any other that wants to sell their merchandise and products using a medium of people who are specifically trained to do just that; sell the products with maximum efficiency. As consumers of these products we can’t really blame the sales people because lets face it, they’re just doing their job.
Its a cliche but if I had a dollar for every time I walked into a store and asked a question someone couldn’t answer I’d be a rich man. “So for this X, what would you recommend A or B.” “Whats more comfortable A or B.” To which you get a response “well we have the Nike Zoom, just brought in.”
[quote]Mad HORSE wrote:
I just quit my GNC gig. But I can tell you that a couple of you are partly right. The company sends a monthly training letter with assinine advice and ‘training tips.’ Deadlifts build muscle, but don’t go heavy or you might injure yourself. That kind of stuff. It’s like reading Men’s Health, but they push supplements more that diet foods.
Also, sometimes it’s time to sell a particular product. Just get it out of the store.
I quit 'cause I was about to be fired for not meeting quotas on the GNC brands they have to sell. That’s why you might walk in one day and get pushed on Brand M, and the next time you go in the guy says all I take is AMP. It’s all bullshit, and online ordering will save you a lot of money. However, I never found out why Biotest isn’t sold at GNC.[/quote]
They sell Spike and HOT-ROX if I’m not mistaken. I’m pretty sure those are the only Biotest products sold outside of the online store.[/quote]
I’ve seen Alpha Male and TRIBEX at a few Vitamin Shoppes. Much cheaper to get it directly from Biotest though. [/quote]
Yeah, pure robbery. I saw some Beta-7 in a Healthy’s store up here going for 97$.