where’d you find that one?^ lol.
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
mike ohrean is a bodybuilder, a bodybuilder is ALWAYS ON HORMONES,no time off,get it in your head already ,no natural ,no clean ,no balonie,only playing with doses depending if want to do fitness or bodybuild ,some can not do bodybuild even if want because their body is more fitness which = average responder to hormones or fellas who dont will to use insulina and gh due to financial reason so they stuck back in lower size,also some just want to do fitness since there is more money in it if sucesful,even in his smallest picture…mike ohearen is BIG!,you never mesure hormone user by the size of arm ,you mesure hormone user by the over all muscle quality and physiqe thickness, muscle quality is not garenteed …physiqe thickness is! muscle quality is more dependent on time in gym and specific compounds…it is a dependent of bodyfat and muscle development mainly ,lean muscle development which ofcourse comes from specific compounds
exact same substances we professionals were are are on,hormones and lots of them, that include growth,he just dont work to be a beast ,he maintain big size with the use of hormones for fitness modeling and acting and attractivness ingeneral rather than competetive bodybuilding
na,mike is a known heavy user of hormones,he usses as much as any fitness model/bodybuilder which means a lot,and most importntly very consistant and knows what works for him and whats really needed for the look desired,he is as far from natural as skip,those guys have been hormonized for years 10s of years you talking here a good 15 years on hormones at the least!
gh15 approved[/quote]
Wait skips not natural?? lololololololololol jk
btw i have no idea what you were talking about the fitness and bodybuilder difference because he excelled at both, Mr Universe victories multiple times, plus over 500 magazine coers, plus a raw total that rapes almost everyone elses raw total besides kazmier and a few others
On a serious note, I dont know if this makes sense but he goes 70%, 80% 90% on his compounds right?
Do you think he does that on almost every movement? That would somewhat explain how his joints could survive all these years and how he got so strong on absolutely everything couldnt it?
[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
mike ohrean is a bodybuilder, a bodybuilder is ALWAYS ON HORMONES,no time off,get it in your head already ,no natural ,no clean ,no balonie,only playing with doses depending if want to do fitness or bodybuild ,some can not do bodybuild even if want because their body is more fitness which = average responder to hormones or fellas who dont will to use insulina and gh due to financial reason so they stuck back in lower size,also some just want to do fitness since there is more money in it if sucesful,even in his smallest picture…mike ohearen is BIG!,you never mesure hormone user by the size of arm ,you mesure hormone user by the over all muscle quality and physiqe thickness, muscle quality is not garenteed …physiqe thickness is! muscle quality is more dependent on time in gym and specific compounds…it is a dependent of bodyfat and muscle development mainly ,lean muscle development which ofcourse comes from specific compounds
exact same substances we professionals were are are on,hormones and lots of them, that include growth,he just dont work to be a beast ,he maintain big size with the use of hormones for fitness modeling and acting and attractivness ingeneral rather than competetive bodybuilding
na,mike is a known heavy user of hormones,he usses as much as any fitness model/bodybuilder which means a lot,and most importntly very consistant and knows what works for him and whats really needed for the look desired,he is as far from natural as skip,those guys have been hormonized for years 10s of years you talking here a good 15 years on hormones at the least!
gh15 approved[/quote]
huh lol?[/quote]
It’s from a popular bodybuilding website forum where an individual(s) named “gh15” claims to know everything about competitive bodybuilding and the drugs used. He (they) attack any competitive bodybuilding notion that things are done naturally. He (they) have a huge following.
I use the plural here because it is highly speculated that the GH15 handle is used by several people, not just one. But the general tone and subject matter is always the same…namely that its not about genetics, its all about drugs.
[quote]buffd_samurai wrote:
[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
mike ohrean is a bodybuilder, a bodybuilder is ALWAYS ON HORMONES,no time off,get it in your head already ,no natural ,no clean ,no balonie,only playing with doses depending if want to do fitness or bodybuild ,some can not do bodybuild even if want because their body is more fitness which = average responder to hormones or fellas who dont will to use insulina and gh due to financial reason so they stuck back in lower size,also some just want to do fitness since there is more money in it if sucesful,even in his smallest picture…mike ohearen is BIG!,you never mesure hormone user by the size of arm ,you mesure hormone user by the over all muscle quality and physiqe thickness, muscle quality is not garenteed …physiqe thickness is! muscle quality is more dependent on time in gym and specific compounds…it is a dependent of bodyfat and muscle development mainly ,lean muscle development which ofcourse comes from specific compounds
exact same substances we professionals were are are on,hormones and lots of them, that include growth,he just dont work to be a beast ,he maintain big size with the use of hormones for fitness modeling and acting and attractivness ingeneral rather than competetive bodybuilding
na,mike is a known heavy user of hormones,he usses as much as any fitness model/bodybuilder which means a lot,and most importntly very consistant and knows what works for him and whats really needed for the look desired,he is as far from natural as skip,those guys have been hormonized for years 10s of years you talking here a good 15 years on hormones at the least!
gh15 approved[/quote]
huh lol?[/quote]
It’s from a popular bodybuilding website forum where an individual(s) named “gh15” claims to know everything about competitive bodybuilding and the drugs used. He (they) attack any competitive bodybuilding notion that things are done naturally. He (they) have a huge following.
I use the plural here because it is highly speculated that the GH15 handle is used by several people, not just one. But the general tone and subject matter is always the same…namely that its not about genetics, its all about drugs. [/quote]
There’s no sense debating over whether or not he’s natural. You can either believe it or not.
[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:
[quote]buffd_samurai wrote:
[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
mike ohrean is a bodybuilder, a bodybuilder is ALWAYS ON HORMONES,no time off,get it in your head already ,no natural ,no clean ,no balonie,only playing with doses depending if want to do fitness or bodybuild ,some can not do bodybuild even if want because their body is more fitness which = average responder to hormones or fellas who dont will to use insulina and gh due to financial reason so they stuck back in lower size,also some just want to do fitness since there is more money in it if sucesful,even in his smallest picture…mike ohearen is BIG!,you never mesure hormone user by the size of arm ,you mesure hormone user by the over all muscle quality and physiqe thickness, muscle quality is not garenteed …physiqe thickness is! muscle quality is more dependent on time in gym and specific compounds…it is a dependent of bodyfat and muscle development mainly ,lean muscle development which ofcourse comes from specific compounds
exact same substances we professionals were are are on,hormones and lots of them, that include growth,he just dont work to be a beast ,he maintain big size with the use of hormones for fitness modeling and acting and attractivness ingeneral rather than competetive bodybuilding
na,mike is a known heavy user of hormones,he usses as much as any fitness model/bodybuilder which means a lot,and most importntly very consistant and knows what works for him and whats really needed for the look desired,he is as far from natural as skip,those guys have been hormonized for years 10s of years you talking here a good 15 years on hormones at the least!
gh15 approved[/quote]
huh lol?[/quote]
It’s from a popular bodybuilding website forum where an individual(s) named “gh15” claims to know everything about competitive bodybuilding and the drugs used. He (they) attack any competitive bodybuilding notion that things are done naturally. He (they) have a huge following.
I use the plural here because it is highly speculated that the GH15 handle is used by several people, not just one. But the general tone and subject matter is always the same…namely that its not about genetics, its all about drugs. [/quote]
There’s no sense debating over whether or not he’s natural. You can either believe it or not.
[/quote]
Thank you, I hate how whenever this guys name is dropped on forums the conversation goes straight to drug use
Good looking guy, very strong, great physique.
As others have said, he seems a bit arrogant, and I’m sure some claims have been embellished.
Natural? Lol no. Doesn’t take away any of it IMO. Very impressive physique; dude is put together very well.
Back to the lifts, I’m not sure I buy that raw total, at least not what I’ve seen from the vids so far. Not in meet conditions, that’s for sure. Only because for someone that likes competing so much, he would have gone out and taken home some records.
All in all, I would love to look like that and be that strong one day.
[quote]buffd_samurai wrote:
It’s from a popular bodybuilding website forum where an individual(s) named “gh15” claims to know everything about competitive bodybuilding and the drugs used. He (they) attack any competitive bodybuilding notion that things are done naturally. He (they) have a huge following.
I use the plural here because it is highly speculated that the GH15 handle is used by several people, not just one. But the general tone and subject matter is always the same…namely that its not about genetics, its all about drugs. [/quote]
Classic.
I wonder if I get “hormonized” for the next 10 years I can end up as thick, solid, tight as Mike.
[quote]bugeishaAD wrote:
Good looking guy, very strong, great physique.
As others have said, he seems a bit arrogant, and I’m sure some claims have been embellished.
Natural? Lol no. Doesn’t take away any of it IMO. Very impressive physique; dude is put together very well.
Back to the lifts, I’m not sure I buy that raw total, at least not what I’ve seen from the vids so far. Not in meet conditions, that’s for sure. Only because for someone that likes competing so much, he would have gone out and taken home some records.
All in all, I would love to look like that and be that strong one day.[/quote]
Yeah me too, I just like the fact that hes the perfect balance of show and go
I visited his website and found the following video of him squatting 6 plates. Excuse me…quarter squatting.
http://www.mikeohearn.com/videos/mike-ohearn-squatting-6plates-no-belt-or-knee-wraps
So, we have a struggling quarter squat of 585, and he claims a 700+ squat? Yup, not happening. I can visualize his 405x10 on incline - 4 board lockouts…great feat of strength.
My only issue is that when people throw around numbers like that they discredit people who, you know, actually hit those numbers and worked DECADES to achieve them. Shit, I have a 500 squat right now with O’Hearn’s depth, but you know what - I don’t go aorund the Internet posting that I have a 500 squat cause that is a laugh in the face of MUCH bigger and stronger dudes that have busted their ass for years to legit get that.
Also, to whoever says “but I know people who train with him, they can all agree on his strength bla bla” - Yeah bud, dudes at my gym also routinely rep 495 for warmups on the bench. TRUE STORY.
The guy is a fitness model, and, admittedly, a pretty-boy. The day that oh-so-not-huge back of his manages to pull the numbers thrown around here is the day I’ll change my name. Do you even realize what kind of a body it takes to put up numbers like that?! Yeah, not Mr. O’Hearn’s thats for sure…more like a silverback gorrilla’s!
[quote]mlekava000 wrote:
I visited his website and found the following video of him squatting 6 plates. Excuse me…quarter squatting.
http://www.mikeohearn.com/videos/mike-ohearn-squatting-6plates-no-belt-or-knee-wraps
So, we have a struggling quarter squat of 585, and he claims a 700+ squat? Yup, not happening. I can visualize his 405x10 on incline - 4 board lockouts…great feat of strength.
My only issue is that when people throw around numbers like that they discredit people who, you know, actually hit those numbers and worked DECADES to achieve them. Shit, I have a 500 squat right now with O’Hearn’s depth, but you know what - I don’t go aorund the Internet posting that I have a 500 squat cause that is a laugh in the face of MUCH bigger and stronger dudes that have busted their ass for years to legit get that.
Also, to whoever says “but I know people who train with him, they can all agree on his strength bla bla” - Yeah bud, dudes at my gym also routinely rep 495 for warmups on the bench. TRUE STORY.
The guy is a fitness model, and, admittedly, a pretty-boy. The day that oh-so-not-huge back of his manages to pull the numbers thrown around here is the day I’ll change my name. Do you even realize what kind of a body it takes to put up numbers like that?! Yeah, not Mr. O’Hearn’s thats for sure…more like a silverback gorrilla’s![/quote]
I wouldn’t take that squat vid and call BS on his lifts. here is a 700 squat you can clearly see (angle could be better) that he squats it deeper to what looks to me like perfect parallel. just youtube vids of him inclining 405 with perfect full rom or doing 160’s DB’s incline for 12 easy reps after doing heavy flat BB bench. i’m not saying everything is true, but if he squat 800 with that form and incline 405, It’s def not a case of “cool story ,bro”. I didnt want this thread to go that route but he is a strong mofo if that’s the debate right now. most IFBB pro’s who’ve trained with him all say he’s abnormally strong (on youtube).
ho yea and mind you, he’s at freakin’ 240 pound here almost photoshoot ready , thats 50-60 pound less than his offseason weight. its logical to assume his best lifts were at around 300lbs bw.
[quote]mlekava000 wrote:
I visited his website and found the following video of him squatting 6 plates. Excuse me…quarter squatting.
http://www.mikeohearn.com/videos/mike-ohearn-squatting-6plates-no-belt-or-knee-wraps
So, we have a struggling quarter squat of 585, and he claims a 700+ squat? Yup, not happening. I can visualize his 405x10 on incline - 4 board lockouts…great feat of strength.
My only issue is that when people throw around numbers like that they discredit people who, you know, actually hit those numbers and worked DECADES to achieve them. Shit, I have a 500 squat right now with O’Hearn’s depth, but you know what - I don’t go aorund the Internet posting that I have a 500 squat cause that is a laugh in the face of MUCH bigger and stronger dudes that have busted their ass for years to legit get that.
Also, to whoever says “but I know people who train with him, they can all agree on his strength bla bla” - Yeah bud, dudes at my gym also routinely rep 495 for warmups on the bench. TRUE STORY.
The guy is a fitness model, and, admittedly, a pretty-boy. The day that oh-so-not-huge back of his manages to pull the numbers thrown around here is the day I’ll change my name. Do you even realize what kind of a body it takes to put up numbers like that?! Yeah, not Mr. O’Hearn’s thats for sure…more like a silverback gorrilla’s![/quote]
EDIT: original post was too harsh
Ok so there is a video on his site that you can watch if your a member of him squatting 800lbs raw.
going back to your final paragraph, you have to change your name now
how about
IgnorantDouchebagdoesntgethisfactsstraightbeforepostinghugerantthusmakinghimselflooklikeevenmoreofacompletetotalfool
?
Seriously guys, we can’t have a threat talking about someone without the “he’s on steroids, the weights are fake, this, that” and all this pointless butthurt ?
There’s a video of a 800lb squat. Good enough for me. This guy is stronger that probably 99% of everyone hating him here, so why don’t you guys pull your heads out of your asses and be a bit humble ?
Same with people who mock Duke Nukem ( Andy Hamman ) for faking the 600 pound bench with the wiped cream thingy, when there’s several videos of him putting up real and solid 500 RAW, and doing other very impressive lifts. I also remember a video of him pressing two 130-140lb supermodels/bikini competitors overhead for reps ( 260-270lb total ?) with extreme ease. How many people here can do that ? Nobody ? Okay, then go fuck yourself.
So, my point here is, these guys might, or might have not, faked some lifts, buuuuut, at the same time they have proof of themselves hitting a number very close to the one they originally claimed, AND, putting up incredible numbers on other lifts. If someone claims a 800 squat but only hits 750, that guy is still a strong sonofabitch no matter if he lied or what. Get fucking over it.
Seriously, this thread remembers me of those youtube videos where someone does a incredibly heavy lift with ease and there’s 7000 hatefull comments of pure jealousy.
And to those saying “he doesn’t have the body to perform those lifts” or “he didn’t train enough to be able to really lift that weight”, I say, seriously ?
This is Brad Castleberry, weighting 220lbs, and squatting 765lbs, he doesn’t look like a silver back gorilla, he doesn’t look like Mike Ruggiera, and he hasn’t been training for a decade, yet he has easily achieved a pretty fucking impressive number.
And at what age ? 20 years ?
Why is it so hard for some people here to accept that there are people out there who are simply naturally stronger than most other people ?
I train at Golds Venice and watched him walk in on a Saturday afternoon and pull 675 for 2 as part of a regular back workout. I have no problem believing that his max is significantly higher. I mean this was set 5 or 6 with a relatively quick pace of maybe 2 minutes between sets.
[quote]DeltaOne wrote:
Seriously guys, we can’t have a threat talking about someone without the “he’s on steroids, the weights are fake, this, that” and all this pointless butthurt ?
There’s a video of a 800lb squat. Good enough for me. This guy is stronger that probably 99% of everyone hating him here, so why don’t you guys pull your heads out of your asses and be a bit humble ?
Same with people who mock Duke Nukem ( Andy Hamman ) for faking the 600 pound bench with the wiped cream thingy, when there’s several videos of him putting up real and solid 500 RAW, and doing other very impressive lifts. I also remember a video of him pressing two 130-140lb models overhead for reps ( 260-270lb total ?) with extreme ease. How many people here can do that ? Nobody ? Okay, then go fuck yourself.
So, my point here is, these guys might, or might have not, faked some lifts, buuuuut, at the same time they have proof of themselves hitting a number very close to the one they originally claimed, AND, putting up incredible numbers on other lifts. If someone claims a 800 squat but only hits 750, that guy is still a strong sonofabitch no matter if he lied or what. Get fucking over it.
Seriously, this thread remembers me of those youtube videos where someone does a incredibly heavy lift with ease and there’s 7000 hatefull comments of pure jealousy.
[/quote]
I hate liars. Plain and simple. Whether or not they lift is irrelevant. The fact that they chose to try to deceive people instead of being proud of their best efforts makes them egotistical, attention-whoring douchebags. Fuck them. And fuck those who apologize for them.
PS: I am in no way implying that Ohearn faked any lifts. My post is entirely about retards like Haman as well as other youtube superstars who put up ridiculous numbers online and then dodge or do significantly worse at meets.
[quote]Anus Bleach wrote:
[quote]DeltaOne wrote:
Seriously guys, we can’t have a threat talking about someone without the “he’s on steroids, the weights are fake, this, that” and all this pointless butthurt ?
There’s a video of a 800lb squat. Good enough for me. This guy is stronger that probably 99% of everyone hating him here, so why don’t you guys pull your heads out of your asses and be a bit humble ?
Same with people who mock Duke Nukem ( Andy Hamman ) for faking the 600 pound bench with the wiped cream thingy, when there’s several videos of him putting up real and solid 500 RAW, and doing other very impressive lifts. I also remember a video of him pressing two 130-140lb models overhead for reps ( 260-270lb total ?) with extreme ease. How many people here can do that ? Nobody ? Okay, then go fuck yourself.
So, my point here is, these guys might, or might have not, faked some lifts, buuuuut, at the same time they have proof of themselves hitting a number very close to the one they originally claimed, AND, putting up incredible numbers on other lifts. If someone claims a 800 squat but only hits 750, that guy is still a strong sonofabitch no matter if he lied or what. Get fucking over it.
Seriously, this thread remembers me of those youtube videos where someone does a incredibly heavy lift with ease and there’s 7000 hatefull comments of pure jealousy.
[/quote]
I hate liars. Plain and simple. Whether or not they lift is irrelevant. The fact that they chose to try to deceive people instead of being proud of their best efforts makes them egotistical, attention-whoring douchebags. Fuck them. And fuck those who apologize for them.
PS: I am in no way implying that Ohearn faked any lifts. My post is entirely about retards like Haman as well as other youtube superstars who put up ridiculous numbers online and then dodge or do significantly worse at meets.[/quote]
And there are videos of Haman doing stuff most people here wouldn’t even dream about doing.
You hate liars, but that does not change the fact that even though the guy lied, he still lifts more weight than a lot of “strong” people out there, and there’s no point acting like he doesn’t because he faked one lift.
Haman has kids to feed. His own image is how he makes money. If he needs to market himself as a superhuman to get a deal with American Gladiators, so that, omg, he may happen to make more money, then be it. I doubt you wouldn’t do the same thing under the same circunstances.
One thing is disliking the attitude of a person because you don’t approve his/her actions, which is totally different than blindly hating and bringing down everything that person achieved because of one thing they did that doesn’t happen to pass through your moral filter.
For example. To me, Stan Efferding seems to be one arrogant douche, and I hate arrogant douches, that doesn’t change the fact he is infinitely stronger than I am and no matter how much I dislike him he won’t stop being strong. Acting as if my personal opnion completely nulifies everything he has accomplished, because I think he is an arrogant douche is an act of ignorance.
[quote]Anus Bleach wrote:
[quote]DeltaOne wrote:
Seriously guys, we can’t have a threat talking about someone without the “he’s on steroids, the weights are fake, this, that” and all this pointless butthurt ?
There’s a video of a 800lb squat. Good enough for me. This guy is stronger that probably 99% of everyone hating him here, so why don’t you guys pull your heads out of your asses and be a bit humble ?
Same with people who mock Duke Nukem ( Andy Hamman ) for faking the 600 pound bench with the wiped cream thingy, when there’s several videos of him putting up real and solid 500 RAW, and doing other very impressive lifts. I also remember a video of him pressing two 130-140lb models overhead for reps ( 260-270lb total ?) with extreme ease. How many people here can do that ? Nobody ? Okay, then go fuck yourself.
So, my point here is, these guys might, or might have not, faked some lifts, buuuuut, at the same time they have proof of themselves hitting a number very close to the one they originally claimed, AND, putting up incredible numbers on other lifts. If someone claims a 800 squat but only hits 750, that guy is still a strong sonofabitch no matter if he lied or what. Get fucking over it.
Seriously, this thread remembers me of those youtube videos where someone does a incredibly heavy lift with ease and there’s 7000 hatefull comments of pure jealousy.
[/quote]
I hate liars. Plain and simple. Whether or not they lift is irrelevant. The fact that they chose to try to deceive people instead of being proud of their best efforts makes them egotistical, attention-whoring douchebags. Fuck them. And fuck those who apologize for them.
PS: I am in no way implying that Ohearn faked any lifts. My post is entirely about retards like Haman as well as other youtube superstars who put up ridiculous numbers online and then dodge or do significantly worse at meets.[/quote]
Nice heartfelt post, Anus Bleach.
Don’t mind me, I’m just hating because I didn’t think of that name first.
[quote]mlekava000 wrote:
I visited his website and found the following video of him squatting 6 plates. Excuse me…quarter squatting.
http://www.mikeohearn.com/videos/mike-ohearn-squatting-6plates-no-belt-or-knee-wraps
So, we have a struggling quarter squat of 585, and he claims a 700+ squat? Yup, not happening. I can visualize his 405x10 on incline - 4 board lockouts…great feat of strength.
My only issue is that when people throw around numbers like that they discredit people who, you know, actually hit those numbers and worked DECADES to achieve them. Shit, I have a 500 squat right now with O’Hearn’s depth, but you know what - I don’t go aorund the Internet posting that I have a 500 squat cause that is a laugh in the face of MUCH bigger and stronger dudes that have busted their ass for years to legit get that.
Also, to whoever says “but I know people who train with him, they can all agree on his strength bla bla” - Yeah bud, dudes at my gym also routinely rep 495 for warmups on the bench. TRUE STORY.
The guy is a fitness model, and, admittedly, a pretty-boy. The day that oh-so-not-huge back of his manages to pull the numbers thrown around here is the day I’ll change my name. Do you even realize what kind of a body it takes to put up numbers like that?! Yeah, not Mr. O’Hearn’s thats for sure…more like a silverback gorrilla’s![/quote]
haha fail