Basically, ZMA plus…
[quote]Null wrote:
My Daughter has migraines pretty badly.
Her neurologist has her on a little Zoloft, and Mirgavent. Migravent is a combination of 3 or four vitamins/minerals. It has serious double blind studies showing effectiveness. He says the ratios are important…
Anyway, 1 drug free that is shown to work, and 1 that doesn’t cause noticeable side effects (dose is REAL low)…
Good Luck…[/quote]
How has that stack helped her with the migraines if you don’t mind me asking? does it help prevent them more or just the severity?
I think we talked about adding a mineral support way back but never got around too it though. Better to stick to one thing at a time anyway. If this elimination diet doesn’t work I think that will say a lot.
hey that sucks! I get migraines pretty regularly too, i think hormones and stress are my main triggers.
Saw The Migraine Clinic in London. Their advise is to avoid your triggers, keep a regular routine - esp with sleep. Do not oversleep (this always triggers them for me). And drink something slightly sugary (with vitamins), or eat something, before i exercise so my blood sugar doesn’t drop low (plus stick to regular routines of eating). Routine is very important. Also take painkillers AS SOON as you feel the migraine coming on, or the painkillers won’t work.
I also read Magnesium is very good for migraines. So i’m taking Solgar Magnesium Citrate 400-600mg at night. I can manage them these days with that advise.
Lunge
8-5-4-3 @ 45/hand
Low Incline Fly
8-5-4-3 @ 20/hand
Barbell Row: Wide Grip
8-5-4-3 @ 95
Seated Rear Delt Raise
8-5-4-3 @ 30/hand
Calf Raise
8-5-4-3 @ 80/hand
I was definitely not a fan of holding 80lb dumbbells, but I had wrist straps to help, thank goodness. Still going with a daily headache and/or migraine, but I still have to give the diet time.
[quote]Wileykit wrote:
hey that sucks! I get migraines pretty regularly too, i think hormones and stress are my main triggers.
Saw The Migraine Clinic in London. Their advise is to avoid your triggers, keep a regular routine - esp with sleep. Do not oversleep (this always triggers them for me). And drink something slightly sugary (with vitamins), or eat something, before i exercise so my blood sugar doesn’t drop low (plus stick to regular routines of eating). Routine is very important. Also take painkillers AS SOON as you feel the migraine coming on, or the painkillers won’t work.
I also read Magnesium is very good for migraines. So i’m taking Solgar Magnesium Citrate 400-600mg at night. I can manage them these days with that advise.[/quote]
Yeah, I was taking magnesium too, but I heard you were supposed to take it with calcium (or was that Vit D? I don’t remember…). Anyway, I’m super awful at remember to take vitamins, but after the elimination diet, I’m gonna start looking more into different methods. One thing at a time.
Maybe… google?
I put them somewhere visible (my desk at work, and the table in the lounge/kitchen at home) and i have a little pill carrier to carry them around with me 
I forget the magnesium at night sometimes tho, have a reminder on my phone but it doesn’t go off when it’s on silent!
just looked up Migravent, sounds good but expensive!
Always expensive 
I wonder if there are blood tests that can be done to show any thing ones deficient in that wouldn’t normally get run.
I think GP’s can run blood tests for vitamin deficiencies if you ask, i had mine done a while ago and was ok. I’m not sure if they are accurate tho?? :S As i think blood levels can be different to cellular levels? Not sure tho!
Since I’m going home for spring break and I don’t have the same equipment at my home gym, I decided to take a break from my regular workouts and do some of the exercises I don’t normally get to do.
Cleans
8-5-4-3 @ 95
Box Jumps x20
Dips
8-5-4-3 @ Bodyweight 15lbs
Sled Sprints x10 with 50lbs sled weight.
Enjoy your spring break and a change of training pace 
Thanks Coyotegal, I most definitely will! Can’t wait for the snow to clear up a bit, the past few days have been beautiful and I want to take the new weighted sled out for a few sprints.
Just checking in, hope you’re enjoying your break!
Was thinking of you today as my migraine rolled up the back of my right eye for the second day.
I’m wondering if training is playing a role in your migraines - would you consider laying off overhead pressing for a bit and seeing if it helps? Getting in to see a physiotherapist would be ideal, but I totally understand the cost issue (I work in the health industry and have 0 benefits… yeah…)
Just thinking you may have a muscle imbalance that triggers the headaches, or at least started the pain cycle that has looped into what you’re dealing with now.
Just a thought… in the meantime,
Rock on!
[quote]accidentalyogi wrote:
Just checking in, hope you’re enjoying your break!
Was thinking of you today as my migraine rolled up the back of my right eye for the second day.
I’m wondering if training is playing a role in your migraines - would you consider laying off overhead pressing for a bit and seeing if it helps? Getting in to see a physiotherapist would be ideal, but I totally understand the cost issue (I work in the health industry and have 0 benefits… yeah…)
Just thinking you may have a muscle imbalance that triggers the headaches, or at least started the pain cycle that has looped into what you’re dealing with now.
Just a thought… in the meantime,
Rock on![/quote]
When I graduate and am officially with classes in May, I will be pursuing more down the physiotherapy avenue. I will also be getting some blood tests done for allergies (food and seasonal). It’s tough trying to schedule things around school, which is three hours north of where I live.
Went to go to some sled pulls today with my new baby sled (it’s so damn small! but easily transportable and store-able, so I really shouldn’t complain)… anyway, sled pulls. Brought the sled to my side yard thinking I’m gonna get a few good sprints in. As I loaded my 25lb plate onto the sled, I realized that there is more deer and bear crap in my side year than there is in the woods (YUCK!)
Maybe tomorrow, I’ll drive the 15 minutes to the track and just do some sprints there.
In the meantime, I’ve been doing some general conditioning; lifting with what I have, but a lighter than I usually go. Substituting weight for reps, for now. Not a bad thing to do every now and then, been going hard for almost 8 weeks now, so scaling back and adding more reps feels nice for a change.
When I get the chance, I’ve been doing katas for karate to keep myself up to speed. Upon graduation, I have a permanent position teaching self defense at the local YMCA in the evenings. Now for a real job -__-
[quote]accidentalyogi wrote:
Just checking in, hope you’re enjoying your break!
Was thinking of you today as my migraine rolled up the back of my right eye for the second day.
I’m wondering if training is playing a role in your migraines - would you consider laying off overhead pressing for a bit and seeing if it helps? Getting in to see a physiotherapist would be ideal, but I totally understand the cost issue (I work in the health industry and have 0 benefits… yeah…)
Just thinking you may have a muscle imbalance that triggers the headaches, or at least started the pain cycle that has looped into what you’re dealing with now.
Just a thought… in the meantime,
Rock on![/quote]
my fiance has been getting migraines for many years. she has tried medications, but found that the ones that even slightly worked made her into a zombie.
after a year and a half of experimentation and logging, we have found the following:
though there are other triggers, overhead movements (even a sled push would qualify) will usually trigger one withing a few hours post-workout
foods do not appear to be associated with her migraines. we have tried to tie causality to everything from aged cheese to red wine to whatever, but no foods always or even usually cause them.
nootropics (“smart drugs”), especially choline supplementation, lay a baseline defense against the random occurrences she used to get.
at the very first sign of one coming on (in her case, the first thing that happens is she starts mixing up words when she’s talking) she immediately takes two aspirin and some natural calm (powdered magnesium supplement that you mix with water) and this reliably stops them.
we got the idea from the product “migralex” which is aspirin and magnesium, but quite expensive.
we have been doing some reading about muscle relaxers to stop exertion-related migraines, too. there are a few that are approved for this purpose and we’re considering adding that in for post-workout on overhead days.
you’ve probably gotten enough advice…i’m only sharing this because i wish someone had shared it with her years ago!
she has been debilitated for days or even weeks by these monsters, one time even experiencing a near-psychotic state where she was present to two separate realities and unable to discern which, if either, was real, even though one included an ancient chinese man standing in her bedroom saying crazy shit to her.
the nice thing about taking the aspirin/magnesium at first symptom instead of every night or whatever is that you don’t have to remember to take it at any scheduled time…it’s just what you do when one is coming on.
i hope this helps more than annoys.
Winslow
Winslow,
Yikes! I don’t think I can say that I ever entered a near-psychotic state like that. I definitely have had sound hallucinations (imagine an alarm clock goes off twice and gets turned off, but I can still hear it ringing) and fishbowl eyesight (everything is curved like looking through a fishbowl).
My dad and I have been discussing dropping overhead movements, and with accidentalyogi and yourself suggesting it, I am contemplating it in the upcoming weeks. The one thing is I have a lifting competition in early April, and I’m too stubborn to bow out because of being in a perpetual state of headachiness/migraine.
The aspirin and magnesium combination to replace the migralex sounds really innovative and a great idea. Any particular type of powdered magnesium?
And don’t worry about annoying, any advice that’s affordable is welcomed
[quote]Seachel_25 wrote:
Winslow,
Yikes! I don’t think I can say that I ever entered a near-psychotic state like that. I definitely have had sound hallucinations (imagine an alarm clock goes off twice and gets turned off, but I can still hear it ringing) and fishbowl eyesight (everything is curved like looking through a fishbowl).
My dad and I have been discussing dropping overhead movements, and with accidentalyogi and yourself suggesting it, I am contemplating it in the upcoming weeks. The one thing is I have a lifting competition in early April, and I’m too stubborn to bow out because of being in a perpetual state of headachiness/migraine.
The aspirin and magnesium combination to replace the migralex sounds really innovative and a great idea. Any particular type of powdered magnesium?
And don’t worry about annoying, any advice that’s affordable is welcomed :)[/quote]
she just uses “natural calm”. we also take some every night before bed, but that’s to improve sleep quality. i’ll try to include a link to the product on amazon, don’t know if it will get edited out by mods or not.
my favorite flavor is lemon, but raspberry-lemon isn’t bad, either. we heat up about 3 ounces of water in the microwave for 30 seconds, put in a rounded teaspoon of the powder, and swirl it to dissolve. it works in cold water, too, but takes a little longer.
hope this helps. if you’d like to talk with her (she’s a former competitive crossfitter, a powerlifter, and general badass) let me know and i’ll get you in touch with her. i’m sure she has thoughts i haven’t heard on the frustrations/rewards of lifting and of dealing with migraines.
-W-
Thanks! I just got my vinpocetine order in the mail which is supposed to increase blood flow to the head. Gonna try it out for a bit and see how that goes.
Annnnd back to the grindstone!
Back Squat
8-5-4-3 @ 185
Incline DB Press
8-5-4-3 @ 40/hand
Lat Pulldown - wide grip
8-5-4-3 @ 100
SeatEd Shoulder Press
8-5-4-3 @ 95
Dips
8-5-4-3 @ Bodyweight + 15lbs
Started taking vinpocetine this morning. Gonna take 2/day to see how it goes. Also, just registered for my college’s lifting meet, I’m stoked to compete.
Deadlift
7-3-3-3-2-2 @ 245
Decline Barbell Bench
8-5-4-3 @ 95
Barbell Row: Narrow Grip
8-5-4-3 @ 95
Seat DB lateral Raise
8-5-4-3 @ 15/hand
DB Hammer Curl
8-5-4-3 @ 25/hand
Deadlifts were definitely rough, had to use my wrist wraps after a while to be able to hold the damn bar. Woke up sore this morning from sparring, and I’m def going to wake up extra sore tomorrow. Worth it. Going on to
my third day of vinpocetine, hope this one works.