Michelle Obama, the Racist at Princeton

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

You guys are hilarious you don’t know anything about me and yet I am scared of the black man in office I believe you said. I don’t know why I waste my time.

You never get the point it is always white vs. black you never actually see the issue. I just love how a black person can go to a church that clearly is pushing their race and that race only, but that is okay in your eyes;

However, a white person could go to say a neo-Nazi church outing and that would be absolutely wrong just because decades ago black people were discriminated against.
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Decades ago, but no worries, racism has been dead since Cosby.

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[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:

You guys are hilarious you don’t know anything about me and yet I am scared of the black man in office I believe you said. I don’t know why I waste my time.

You never get the point it is always white vs. black you never actually see the issue. I just love how a black person can go to a church that clearly is pushing their race and that race only, but that is okay in your eyes;

However, a white person could go to say a neo-Nazi church outing and that would be absolutely wrong just because decades ago black people were discriminated against.

Decades ago, but no worries, racism has been dead since Cosby.[/quote]

It actually died the moment The Jeffersons aired for the first time. We made up everything else.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:

You guys are hilarious you don’t know anything about me and yet I am scared of the black man in office I believe you said. I don’t know why I waste my time.

You never get the point it is always white vs. black you never actually see the issue. I just love how a black person can go to a church that clearly is pushing their race and that race only, but that is okay in your eyes;

However, a white person could go to say a neo-Nazi church outing and that would be absolutely wrong just because decades ago black people were discriminated against.

Decades ago, but no worries, racism has been dead since Cosby.

It actually died the moment The Jeffersons aired for the first time. We made up everything else.[/quote]

The day racism died:

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:

You don’t consider 20 years in an overtly, unapologetically marxist church as anything?

Nope and I don’t care one ounce about Ayers either. [/quote]

Just so we’re clear you don’t marxism being in the highest office of this land? You have said you love this country. What does that mean? I’m not in any way being sarcastic. I’m asking honestly.

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:

You don’t consider 20 years in an overtly, unapologetically marxist church as anything?

Nope and I don’t care one ounce about Ayers either.

Just so we’re clear you don’t marxism being in the highest office of this land? You have said you love this country. What does that mean? I’m not in any way being sarcastic. I’m asking honestly.[/quote]

I’m sorry, but who is labeling him a Marxist?

The level of disrespect in your question of love for my country just made me lose all respect for you personally. I would hope anyone who even fixes their mouth to take that stance has also served in the military for this country at some point. I took an oath. Have you?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:

You don’t consider 20 years in an overtly, unapologetically marxist church as anything?

Nope and I don’t care one ounce about Ayers either.

Just so we’re clear you don’t marxism being in the highest office of this land? You have said you love this country. What does that mean? I’m not in any way being sarcastic. I’m asking honestly.

I’m sorry, but who is labeling him a Marxist?

The level of disrespect in your question of love for my country just made me lose all respect for you personally. I would hope anyone who even fixes their mouth to take that stance has also served in the military for this country at some point. I took an oath. Have you?[/quote]

I hereby solemnly swear not serve my country, nor anyone else, until the day I die.

How is that for an oath?

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[quote]orion wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:

You don’t consider 20 years in an overtly, unapologetically marxist church as anything?

Nope and I don’t care one ounce about Ayers either.

Just so we’re clear you don’t marxism being in the highest office of this land? You have said you love this country. What does that mean? I’m not in any way being sarcastic. I’m asking honestly.

I’m sorry, but who is labeling him a Marxist?

The level of disrespect in your question of love for my country just made me lose all respect for you personally. I would hope anyone who even fixes their mouth to take that stance has also served in the military for this country at some point. I took an oath. Have you?

I hereby solemnly swear not serve my country, nor anyone else, until the day I die.

How is that for an oath?

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That’s your choice. No one was questioning your loyalty for the country you live in or asking “why” you love it.

These types will continue to act as if anyone who disagrees with them is somehow less “patriotic” than they are. That seemed to often be the response during the last administration any time someone questioned actions taken to supposedly protect us from terrorists.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
orion wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:

You don’t consider 20 years in an overtly, unapologetically marxist church as anything?

Nope and I don’t care one ounce about Ayers either.

Just so we’re clear you don’t marxism being in the highest office of this land? You have said you love this country. What does that mean? I’m not in any way being sarcastic. I’m asking honestly.

I’m sorry, but who is labeling him a Marxist?

The level of disrespect in your question of love for my country just made me lose all respect for you personally. I would hope anyone who even fixes their mouth to take that stance has also served in the military for this country at some point. I took an oath. Have you?

I hereby solemnly swear not serve my country, nor anyone else, until the day I die.

How is that for an oath?

That’s your choice. No one was questioning your loyalty for the country you live in or asking “why” you love it.

These types will continue to act as if anyone who disagrees with them is somehow less “patriotic” than they are. That seemed to often be the response during the last administration any time someone questioned actions taken to supposedly protect us from terrorists.[/quote]

I think that you are accepting their premise, which is that loving and being proud of America is the default setting of every decent American, if not human being.

They even expect it from people who have experienced very real suffering caused by the American government and the majority of the American people.

That is crazy.

If “America” who- or whatever that may be, wants love, trust and respect it ought to earn it anew, day, after day, after day.

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[quote]orion wrote:
Professor X wrote:
orion wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:

You don’t consider 20 years in an overtly, unapologetically marxist church as anything?

Nope and I don’t care one ounce about Ayers either.

Just so we’re clear you don’t marxism being in the highest office of this land? You have said you love this country. What does that mean? I’m not in any way being sarcastic. I’m asking honestly.

I’m sorry, but who is labeling him a Marxist?

The level of disrespect in your question of love for my country just made me lose all respect for you personally. I would hope anyone who even fixes their mouth to take that stance has also served in the military for this country at some point. I took an oath. Have you?

I hereby solemnly swear not serve my country, nor anyone else, until the day I die.

How is that for an oath?

That’s your choice. No one was questioning your loyalty for the country you live in or asking “why” you love it.

These types will continue to act as if anyone who disagrees with them is somehow less “patriotic” than they are. That seemed to often be the response during the last administration any time someone questioned actions taken to supposedly protect us from terrorists.

I think that you are accepting their premise, which is that loving and being proud of America is the default setting of every decent American, if not human being.

They even expect it from people who have experienced very real suffering caused by the American government and the majority of the American people.

That is crazy.

If “America” who- or whatever that may be, wants love, trust and respect it ought to earn it anew, day, after day, after day.

[/quote]

We don’t disagree here. We just spent the last few years claiming we don’t care how the world sees us.

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Why is one expected to love one’s country anyway? What if your country sucks but you didn’t have the power to avoid being born there?

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

So as I understand it if white’s had been oppressed for a couple hundred years it would be okay for them to go to a racist church in todays age, but since they weren’t it is wrong.

[/quote]

no, they would just have way more wiggle room when it comes down to what is racism.

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[quote]orion wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:

So as I understand it if white’s had been oppressed for a couple hundred years it would be okay for them to go to a racist church in todays age, but since they weren’t it is wrong.

no, they would just have way more wiggle room when it comes down to what is racism.[/quote]

You know a lot of white people can trace their roots back to a time of oppression for their people. For instance I am half Irish…can I then use the history of Irish oppression to my advantage?

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
orion wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:

So as I understand it if white’s had been oppressed for a couple hundred years it would be okay for them to go to a racist church in todays age, but since they weren’t it is wrong.

no, they would just have way more wiggle room when it comes down to what is racism.

You know a lot of white people can trace their roots back to a time of oppression for their people. For instance I am half Irish…can I then use the history of Irish oppression to my advantage?[/quote]

I don´t know.

Did they not treat Irish patient´s syphilis just to see what would happen?

Did they lynch Irish people who wanted to vote 1-2 generations ago?

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
orion wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
orion wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:

So as I understand it if white’s had been oppressed for a couple hundred years it would be okay for them to go to a racist church in todays age, but since they weren’t it is wrong.

no, they would just have way more wiggle room when it comes down to what is racism.

You know a lot of white people can trace their roots back to a time of oppression for their people. For instance I am half Irish…can I then use the history of Irish oppression to my advantage?

I don´t know.

Did they not treat Irish patient´s syphilis just to see what would happen?

Did they lynch Irish people who wanted to vote 1-2 generations ago?

No they just raped their women on their wedding night no less. [/quote]

When exactly did that happen and did it happen in America?

If some Irish still held a grudge against the British I would understand that.

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http://www.pitt.edu/~hirtle/uujec/white.html

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[quote]orion wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
orion wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
orion wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:

So as I understand it if white’s had been oppressed for a couple hundred years it would be okay for them to go to a racist church in todays age, but since they weren’t it is wrong.

no, they would just have way more wiggle room when it comes down to what is racism.

You know a lot of white people can trace their roots back to a time of oppression for their people. For instance I am half Irish…can I then use the history of Irish oppression to my advantage?

I don´t know.

Did they not treat Irish patient´s syphilis just to see what would happen?

Did they lynch Irish people who wanted to vote 1-2 generations ago?

No they just raped their women on their wedding night no less.

When exactly did that happen and did it happen in America?

If some Irish still held a grudge against the British I would understand that.

[/quote]

Some act as if any level of discrimination equals the same as all other gradients. Aside from Native Americans, few in this country can claim the same level of harassment and loathing experienced by blacks in this country.

You risked being killed by simply walking outside in Mississippi in the 40’s and 50’s. There was a lynching less than 10 years ago in Texas where a girl was dragged behind a pickup truck.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
http://www.pitt.edu/~hirtle/uujec/white.html

[/quote]

From that link:

Well…at least you guys had a choice.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
orion wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
orion wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
orion wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:

So as I understand it if white’s had been oppressed for a couple hundred years it would be okay for them to go to a racist church in todays age, but since they weren’t it is wrong.

no, they would just have way more wiggle room when it comes down to what is racism.

You know a lot of white people can trace their roots back to a time of oppression for their people. For instance I am half Irish…can I then use the history of Irish oppression to my advantage?

I don´t know.

Did they not treat Irish patient´s syphilis just to see what would happen?

Did they lynch Irish people who wanted to vote 1-2 generations ago?

No they just raped their women on their wedding night no less.

When exactly did that happen and did it happen in America?

If some Irish still held a grudge against the British I would understand that.

Why did it have to happen in America? It is part of their history.

Does that mean American Jews can’t care about the Holocaust because they are American?
[/quote]

Gee, we are talking about racism in America.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
orion wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
orion wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
orion wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:

So as I understand it if white’s had been oppressed for a couple hundred years it would be okay for them to go to a racist church in todays age, but since they weren’t it is wrong.

no, they would just have way more wiggle room when it comes down to what is racism.

You know a lot of white people can trace their roots back to a time of oppression for their people. For instance I am half Irish…can I then use the history of Irish oppression to my advantage?

I don´t know.

Did they not treat Irish patient´s syphilis just to see what would happen?

Did they lynch Irish people who wanted to vote 1-2 generations ago?

No they just raped their women on their wedding night no less.

When exactly did that happen and did it happen in America?

If some Irish still held a grudge against the British I would understand that.

Some act as if any level of discrimination equals the same as all other gradients. Aside from Native Americans, few in this country can claim the same level of harassment and loathing experienced by blacks in this country.

You risked being killed by simply walking outside in Mississippi in the 40’s and 50’s. There was a lynching less than 10 years ago in Texas where a girl was dragged behind a pickup truck.[/quote]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1610418/posts