Michelle Obama, the Racist at Princeton

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
orion wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
orion wrote:
Hell, no, let us discuss this:

Michelle Obama writes a Bachelor thesis about being a black student 23 years ago.

A women that has been her roommate comes out and agrees that yes indeed, there has been racism, because she and her mother were racists at that point.

That is immediately followed by an attack on Prof X for his reverse racism because he points out that y´all are fucking insane?

Is you all crazy?

The point you’re missing is that, yes, she reacted, but we’re trying to determine if she still thinks that way: Why keep it locked up? Why be friends with Bernadette Dohrn? And it wasn’t 23 years ago when her kids were baptised by Pastor Wright, and it wasn’t 23 years ago when Barack started his career in William Ayers’ livingroom.

I trust her judgment of Rev Wright more than yours.

Since she knows him for decades and you don´t.

If I take some posts out of your several hundred I can make you look like a pedophile.

Be sure to never run for office.

Your pastor just loudly proclaimed: “Goddamn Austria!” and then later said, “Any Austrians who die from terrorism deserve it because our chickens are coming home to roost!”. What do you?

[/quote]

Asking myself if Austria has killed enough people lately that there ACTUALLY ARE chicken that could come home to roost?

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My point is that she was afforded opportunities on every level that relatively few people of any color would have had even in this country nevermind other countries.

She is lamenting the idea that she may become a full member of the “white” society that gave her those opportunities. I don’t know what to say anymore. There cannot be a different society for every ethnic background in any country for it to survive.

This country was founded, ascended to preeminence and thrived for a time on principles set forth by western Europeans. Even by the time Michelle Obama was in college blacks were welcome to participate in that society and certainly are now.

Anybody waiting for their own separate society or all personal racism to cease will have a long wait. A divided society is not long for this world and there will always be some racist people.

I have personally known people black as the ace of spades, old enough to remember what things used to be like, who got this.

I get treated like absolute shit several times a week by black people I don’t even know. Last night at the store, a woman was coming out the door as I was going in. I held the door for her and nodded politely as she closed her eyes, stuck her nose in the air and looked away from me while she stomped out the door. The loop on her plastic bag caught on the door handle and tore spilling her stuff on the snowy sidewalk. I bent down to help her pick it up and she screamed, I mean screamed, “GET THE HELL AWAY FROM ME!!!”

It was as if I were destroying her long held beliefs about white men or something. I could feel it coming off of her. I can’t help that and I will hold the door next time anyway. Now I understand that this is not the same as how blacks have been treated, but we will not progress further if folks refuse to treat each other as individuals instead of members of their group.

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[quote]Mick28 wrote:
If Sarha Palin had ever written anything racist in College it would have been on the front page of the NY Times, CNN, MSNBC and all of the other news outlets that conspired to elect obuma as President.
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If Sarah Palin had written anything vaguely notable while at college it would have been all over the press. As it is she just scrambled around between colleges and entered beauty contests.

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[quote]ninearms wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
If Sarha Palin had ever written anything racist in College it would have been on the front page of the NY Times, CNN, MSNBC and all of the other news outlets that conspired to elect obuma as President.

If Sarah Palin had written anything vaguely notable while at college it would have been all over the press. As it is she just scrambled around between colleges and entered beauty contests.

[/quote]

Which even if accurate misses the point entirely.

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[quote]Mick28 wrote:
ninearms wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
If Sarha Palin had ever written anything racist in College it would have been on the front page of the NY Times, CNN, MSNBC and all of the other news outlets that conspired to elect obuma as President.

If Sarah Palin had written anything vaguely notable while at college it would have been all over the press. As it is she just scrambled around between colleges and entered beauty contests.

That’s because she’s a shallow person who only has a pretty face…MORON.

That’s exactly what the liberal media wants you to buy into. Tell me how does someone so “unable” get to be a successful Governor of a state?

Keep watching MSNBC and the other shills for the democratic party that will really improve your ability actually understand what’s going on.

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If she were a liberal she would be painted as a working class hero for women, mothers, and non-ivy leaguers everywhere to look up to. But she doesn’t believe in abortion, so she is a white trash girl from a po-dunk redneck town. duh.

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You guys did read the actual thesis, right? Not just the the hack’s made-up summary? I did. Not racist in any way, no support for separationism unlike what the article suggests, nor very interesting. Very undergrad though.

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Oh, and you do know that it’s been up on Politico since February, right? And that they just asked the Obama campaign for a copy because Princeton couldn’t deal with all the crazies who wanted to find damning evidence of her plot to kill whitey?

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[quote]ninearms wrote:
You guys did read the actual thesis, right? .[/quote]

What a silly question.

Of course not.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
<<< But rather than celebrate, she is horrified that black alumni identify with our common American culture more than they value the color of their skin. >>>[/quote]

This is where the crux of the matter lies regardless of what color you are.

The principles that made this country great are not black or white or brown, red or yellow.

Anybody and everybody can reap the benefits of them.

America IS those principles and they do not need to be “fundamentally changed”. They need to be rediscovered in that dusty old constitution and Bill of Rights. That is American culture which is unique to this country and which we abandon at our own peril.

Anybody of any color from anywhere can be a true American, but simply being physically present on our soil does not make you one.

The great American melting pot meant exactly that. All willing people can be integrated into our uniquely American society. It does not mean a different society for every heritage. It is this loss of American identity on one hand and the refusal to embrace it on the other that will keep the various races at each other’s throats forever if this does not change.

Barack Obama will be a catastrophic impediment to whatever of this process was actually taking place.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
It must have been rough at Harvard and Princeton where she painted herself white in public because obviously when she attended, Ivy League schools did not allow blacks due to the incurable racist state of this nation. How unbearable to graduate from 2 of the most prestigious and expensive universities in the world.

She has lived a life of accomplishment and privilege that would have been available to very few blacks anywhere else in the world.

Wait, so instead of acknowledging that she must have been one hell of a student and person to bypass what was against her and still succeed like she did, you would rather act like what she went through wasn’t significant enough to warrant her response?

You can have her own roommate admit publicly what things were like back then and you will still refuse to admit that racism was a huge enough force to warrant this emotion from black people in general?[/quote]

Was I alive then? How many people alive today were in positions of power 30 years ago? How can you possibly blame individuals for their parents crimes? Would you recomend killing murderers’ children as well as the murderers? How many generations would you go back? Seven? If you agree with me that an individual is only responsible for they own actions and the consequences of their actions, the only possible logical extension is that you can’t blame an entire group of people for their parents’ crimes.

Prof X you’re thinking about too many issues in terms of race; white people do this, black people do that. Well that’s bullshit. If you started to think in terms of individuals maybe you’d see the world differently. Judge each person on their own merits. At the moment you’re part of the problem why not try and be part of the solution?

I don’t deny that America had a shoddy system until 30 years ago. I don’t deny that it’s embaressing. I do deny the idea that people born since then should judge or be judged based upon the past. I think if a country is going to move forward it has to take lessons from the past but not cling to grudges.

If you really want to split the world up try thinking in terms of rich and poor. Still a massive generalisation and a crap idea. But you’ll be capturing the true inequalities in the world today. That anyone born poor in virtually any country in the world has a lower chance of success than someone born rich. Maybe this is why black people in general in America are poorer, the same reason as poor white family in the 1960’s have a high likelyhood of being poor today. (I’m not advocating spreading the wealth but spreading the opportunity, very different)

(apologies for trashy spelling dyslexia suck ass)

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[quote]lou21 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
It must have been rough at Harvard and Princeton where she painted herself white in public because obviously when she attended, Ivy League schools did not allow blacks due to the incurable racist state of this nation. How unbearable to graduate from 2 of the most prestigious and expensive universities in the world.

She has lived a life of accomplishment and privilege that would have been available to very few blacks anywhere else in the world.

Wait, so instead of acknowledging that she must have been one hell of a student and person to bypass what was against her and still succeed like she did, you would rather act like what she went through wasn’t significant enough to warrant her response?

You can have her own roommate admit publicly what things were like back then and you will still refuse to admit that racism was a huge enough force to warrant this emotion from black people in general?

Was I alive then? How many people alive today were in positions of power 30 years ago? How can you possibly blame individuals for their parents crimes? Would you recomend killing murderers’ children as well as the murderers? How many generations would you go back? Seven? If you agree with me that an individual is only responsible for they own actions and the consequences of their actions, the only possible logical extension is that you can’t blame an entire group of people for their parents’ crimes.

Prof X you’re thinking about too many issues in terms of race; white people do this, black people do that. Well that’s bullshit. If you started to think in terms of individuals maybe you’d see the world differently. Judge each person on their own merits. At the moment you’re part of the problem why not try and be part of the solution?

I don’t deny that America had a shoddy system until 30 years ago. I don’t deny that it’s embaressing. I do deny the idea that people born since then should judge or be judged based upon the past. I think if a country is going to move forward it has to take lessons from the past but not cling to grudges.

If you really want to split the world up try thinking in terms of rich and poor. Still a massive generalisation and a crap idea. But you’ll be capturing the true inequalities in the world today. That anyone born poor in virtually any country in the world has a lower chance of success than someone born rich. Maybe this is why black people in general in America are poorer, the same reason as poor white family in the 1960’s have a high likelyhood of being poor today. (I’m not advocating spreading the wealth but spreading the opportunity, very different)

(apologies for trashy spelling dyslexia suck ass)[/quote]

This is funny but at least it is not a surprise.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
lou21 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
It must have been rough at Harvard and Princeton where she painted herself white in public because obviously when she attended, Ivy League schools did not allow blacks due to the incurable racist state of this nation. How unbearable to graduate from 2 of the most prestigious and expensive universities in the world.

She has lived a life of accomplishment and privilege that would have been available to very few blacks anywhere else in the world.

Wait, so instead of acknowledging that she must have been one hell of a student and person to bypass what was against her and still succeed like she did, you would rather act like what she went through wasn’t significant enough to warrant her response?

You can have her own roommate admit publicly what things were like back then and you will still refuse to admit that racism was a huge enough force to warrant this emotion from black people in general?

Was I alive then? How many people alive today were in positions of power 30 years ago? How can you possibly blame individuals for their parents crimes? Would you recomend killing murderers’ children as well as the murderers? How many generations would you go back? Seven? If you agree with me that an individual is only responsible for they own actions and the consequences of their actions, the only possible logical extension is that you can’t blame an entire group of people for their parents’ crimes.

Prof X you’re thinking about too many issues in terms of race; white people do this, black people do that. Well that’s bullshit. If you started to think in terms of individuals maybe you’d see the world differently. Judge each person on their own merits. At the moment you’re part of the problem why not try and be part of the solution?

I don’t deny that America had a shoddy system until 30 years ago. I don’t deny that it’s embaressing. I do deny the idea that people born since then should judge or be judged based upon the past. I think if a country is going to move forward it has to take lessons from the past but not cling to grudges.

If you really want to split the world up try thinking in terms of rich and poor. Still a massive generalisation and a crap idea. But you’ll be capturing the true inequalities in the world today. That anyone born poor in virtually any country in the world has a lower chance of success than someone born rich. Maybe this is why black people in general in America are poorer, the same reason as poor white family in the 1960’s have a high likelyhood of being poor today. (I’m not advocating spreading the wealth but spreading the opportunity, very different)

(apologies for trashy spelling dyslexia suck ass)

This is funny but at least it is not a surprise. [/quote]

You never fail to surprize, Prof.

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[quote]orion wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
orion wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
orion wrote:
Hell, no, let us discuss this:

Michelle Obama writes a Bachelor thesis about being a black student 23 years ago.

A women that has been her roommate comes out and agrees that yes indeed, there has been racism, because she and her mother were racists at that point.

That is immediately followed by an attack on Prof X for his reverse racism because he points out that y´all are fucking insane?

Is you all crazy?

The point you’re missing is that, yes, she reacted, but we’re trying to determine if she still thinks that way: Why keep it locked up? Why be friends with Bernadette Dohrn? And it wasn’t 23 years ago when her kids were baptised by Pastor Wright, and it wasn’t 23 years ago when Barack started his career in William Ayers’ livingroom.

I trust her judgment of Rev Wright more than yours.

Since she knows him for decades and you don´t.

If I take some posts out of your several hundred I can make you look like a pedophile.

Be sure to never run for office.

Your pastor just loudly proclaimed: “Goddamn Austria!” and then later said, “Any Austrians who die from terrorism deserve it because our chickens are coming home to roost!”. What do you?

Asking myself if Austria has killed enough people lately that there ACTUALLY ARE chicken that could come home to roost?

[/quote]

So, you agree with Pastor Wright, that innocent people deserved to die on 9/11, and that killing them was justified because of what our government does?

And can’t you just see Michelle and Barack, sitting in their pews, nodding in agreement?

This country is in the grip of the Antichrist.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
orion wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
orion wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
orion wrote:
Hell, no, let us discuss this:

Michelle Obama writes a Bachelor thesis about being a black student 23 years ago.

A women that has been her roommate comes out and agrees that yes indeed, there has been racism, because she and her mother were racists at that point.

That is immediately followed by an attack on Prof X for his reverse racism because he points out that y´all are fucking insane?

Is you all crazy?

The point you’re missing is that, yes, she reacted, but we’re trying to determine if she still thinks that way: Why keep it locked up? Why be friends with Bernadette Dohrn? And it wasn’t 23 years ago when her kids were baptised by Pastor Wright, and it wasn’t 23 years ago when Barack started his career in William Ayers’ livingroom.

I trust her judgment of Rev Wright more than yours.

Since she knows him for decades and you don´t.

If I take some posts out of your several hundred I can make you look like a pedophile.

Be sure to never run for office.

Your pastor just loudly proclaimed: “Goddamn Austria!” and then later said, “Any Austrians who die from terrorism deserve it because our chickens are coming home to roost!”. What do you?

Asking myself if Austria has killed enough people lately that there ACTUALLY ARE chicken that could come home to roost?

So, you agree with Pastor Wright, that innocent people deserved to die on 9/11, and that killing them was justified because of what our government does?

[/quote]

I agree that if you kill enough innocent people that you deserve to die and that you are damned in the eyes of the Lord.

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[quote]orion wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
orion wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
orion wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
orion wrote:
Hell, no, let us discuss this:

Michelle Obama writes a Bachelor thesis about being a black student 23 years ago.

A women that has been her roommate comes out and agrees that yes indeed, there has been racism, because she and her mother were racists at that point.

That is immediately followed by an attack on Prof X for his reverse racism because he points out that y´all are fucking insane?

Is you all crazy?

The point you’re missing is that, yes, she reacted, but we’re trying to determine if she still thinks that way: Why keep it locked up? Why be friends with Bernadette Dohrn? And it wasn’t 23 years ago when her kids were baptised by Pastor Wright, and it wasn’t 23 years ago when Barack started his career in William Ayers’ livingroom.

I trust her judgment of Rev Wright more than yours.

Since she knows him for decades and you don´t.

If I take some posts out of your several hundred I can make you look like a pedophile.

Be sure to never run for office.

Your pastor just loudly proclaimed: “Goddamn Austria!” and then later said, “Any Austrians who die from terrorism deserve it because our chickens are coming home to roost!”. What do you?

Asking myself if Austria has killed enough people lately that there ACTUALLY ARE chicken that could come home to roost?

So, you agree with Pastor Wright, that innocent people deserved to die on 9/11, and that killing them was justified because of what our government does?

I agree that if you kill enough innocent people that you deserve to die and that you are damned in the eyes of the Lord.

[/quote]

You personally or your country? Motives and reasons don’t matter?

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
orion wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
orion wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
orion wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
orion wrote:
Hell, no, let us discuss this:

Michelle Obama writes a Bachelor thesis about being a black student 23 years ago.

A women that has been her roommate comes out and agrees that yes indeed, there has been racism, because she and her mother were racists at that point.

That is immediately followed by an attack on Prof X for his reverse racism because he points out that y´all are fucking insane?

Is you all crazy?

The point you’re missing is that, yes, she reacted, but we’re trying to determine if she still thinks that way: Why keep it locked up? Why be friends with Bernadette Dohrn? And it wasn’t 23 years ago when her kids were baptised by Pastor Wright, and it wasn’t 23 years ago when Barack started his career in William Ayers’ livingroom.

I trust her judgment of Rev Wright more than yours.

Since she knows him for decades and you don´t.

If I take some posts out of your several hundred I can make you look like a pedophile.

Be sure to never run for office.

Your pastor just loudly proclaimed: “Goddamn Austria!” and then later said, “Any Austrians who die from terrorism deserve it because our chickens are coming home to roost!”. What do you?

Asking myself if Austria has killed enough people lately that there ACTUALLY ARE chicken that could come home to roost?

So, you agree with Pastor Wright, that innocent people deserved to die on 9/11, and that killing them was justified because of what our government does?

I agree that if you kill enough innocent people that you deserve to die and that you are damned in the eyes of the Lord.

You personally or your country? Motives and reasons don’t matter?[/quote]

Whatever your answer is, I hope it is the same whether the one dying is an Iraqi or an American and whether the one doing the killing wears a uniform or not.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
orion wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
orion wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
orion wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
orion wrote:
Hell, no, let us discuss this:

Michelle Obama writes a Bachelor thesis about being a black student 23 years ago.

A women that has been her roommate comes out and agrees that yes indeed, there has been racism, because she and her mother were racists at that point.

That is immediately followed by an attack on Prof X for his reverse racism because he points out that y´all are fucking insane?

Is you all crazy?

The point you’re missing is that, yes, she reacted, but we’re trying to determine if she still thinks that way: Why keep it locked up? Why be friends with Bernadette Dohrn? And it wasn’t 23 years ago when her kids were baptised by Pastor Wright, and it wasn’t 23 years ago when Barack started his career in William Ayers’ livingroom.

I trust her judgment of Rev Wright more than yours.

Since she knows him for decades and you don´t.

If I take some posts out of your several hundred I can make you look like a pedophile.

Be sure to never run for office.

Your pastor just loudly proclaimed: “Goddamn Austria!” and then later said, “Any Austrians who die from terrorism deserve it because our chickens are coming home to roost!”. What do you?

Asking myself if Austria has killed enough people lately that there ACTUALLY ARE chicken that could come home to roost?

So, you agree with Pastor Wright, that innocent people deserved to die on 9/11, and that killing them was justified because of what our government does?

I agree that if you kill enough innocent people that you deserve to die and that you are damned in the eyes of the Lord.

Isn’t one enough…I’m pretty sure the Lord said thou shall not murder…not thou shall no commit many murders, but 5 is okay. [/quote]

Even if you are in uniform and your government asks you in a really nice manner?

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Why was Michelle in a room with a white roommate then? I thought that America at the time was this horrible racist den of iniquity.[/quote]

Is this the logic you teach your students?

I simply smile and wave at you, while the guys with the straight jacket sneak up on you from behind.

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[quote]orion wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
orion wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
orion wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
orion wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
orion wrote:
Hell, no, let us discuss this:

Michelle Obama writes a Bachelor thesis about being a black student 23 years ago.

A women that has been her roommate comes out and agrees that yes indeed, there has been racism, because she and her mother were racists at that point.

That is immediately followed by an attack on Prof X for his reverse racism because he points out that y´all are fucking insane?

Is you all crazy?

The point you’re missing is that, yes, she reacted, but we’re trying to determine if she still thinks that way: Why keep it locked up? Why be friends with Bernadette Dohrn? And it wasn’t 23 years ago when her kids were baptised by Pastor Wright, and it wasn’t 23 years ago when Barack started his career in William Ayers’ livingroom.

I trust her judgment of Rev Wright more than yours.

Since she knows him for decades and you don´t.

If I take some posts out of your several hundred I can make you look like a pedophile.

Be sure to never run for office.

Your pastor just loudly proclaimed: “Goddamn Austria!” and then later said, “Any Austrians who die from terrorism deserve it because our chickens are coming home to roost!”. What do you?

Asking myself if Austria has killed enough people lately that there ACTUALLY ARE chicken that could come home to roost?

So, you agree with Pastor Wright, that innocent people deserved to die on 9/11, and that killing them was justified because of what our government does?

I agree that if you kill enough innocent people that you deserve to die and that you are damned in the eyes of the Lord.

You personally or your country? Motives and reasons don’t matter?

Whatever your answer is, I hope it is the same whether the one dying is an Iraqi or an American and whether the one doing the killing wears a uniform or not.

[/quote]

I never brought up nationality.

But yes, murder can be justified. I also believe there are a different set of rules in war, though it doesn’t just give everyone a free pass. Its why the military holds it’s own courts, it doesn’t make sense to apply 100% civilian rules and laws to soldiers.