[quote]jre67t wrote:
Oh Shut up X, hell Im a Damn Spic. I work at the Post Office and when my Black Brothers found out I voted for McCain, I got so many damn backs and evil eyes turned to me.
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It’s more likely that you are just an ass hole. Most sane people avoid political discussions in the work place unless sure the people you are speaking to share your own views. That goes for any political stance which means your judgment that RACE was the factor is a part of the problem.
[quote]orion wrote:
Hell, no, let us discuss this:
Michelle Obama writes a Bachelor thesis about being a black student 23 years ago.
A women that has been her roommate comes out and agrees that yes indeed, there has been racism, because she and her mother were racists at that point.
That is immediately followed by an attack on Prof X for his reverse racism because he points out that y´all are fucking insane?
Is you all crazy?
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They haven’t stayed on topic in several threads.
[quote]orion wrote:
Hell, no, let us discuss this:
Michelle Obama writes a Bachelor thesis about being a black student 23 years ago.
A women that has been her roommate comes out and agrees that yes indeed, there has been racism, because she and her mother were racists at that point.
That is immediately followed by an attack on Prof X for his reverse racism because he points out that y´all are fucking insane?
Is you all crazy?
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The point you’re missing is that, yes, she reacted, but we’re trying to determine if she still thinks that way: Why keep it locked up? Why be friends with Bernadette Dohrn? And it wasn’t 23 years ago when her kids were baptised by Pastor Wright, and it wasn’t 23 years ago when Barack started his career in William Ayers’ livingroom.
This all took place 23 years ago. So she was reflecting on life 23-43 years ago. That would be 1965 to 1985, maybe some of you need to hit the history books. Correction “Black history books” so you can maybe get an idea where she’s coming from.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
orion wrote:
Hell, no, let us discuss this:
Michelle Obama writes a Bachelor thesis about being a black student 23 years ago.
A women that has been her roommate comes out and agrees that yes indeed, there has been racism, because she and her mother were racists at that point.
That is immediately followed by an attack on Prof X for his reverse racism because he points out that y´all are fucking insane?
Is you all crazy?
The point you’re missing is that, yes, she reacted, but we’re trying to determine if she still thinks that way: Why keep it locked up? Why be friends with Bernadette Dohrn? And it wasn’t 23 years ago when her kids were baptised by Pastor Wright, and it wasn’t 23 years ago when Barack started his career in William Ayers’ livingroom.
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And it was this year that she said essentially that she wasn’t proud of the country her husband was to become president of until he was about to become president of it.
These people have a lifelong history of alliances, words and actions that are antagonistic to this country. If a 23 year old thesis was all there was it could be chalked up to the passion of youth colored by experience to that point.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
orion wrote:
Hell, no, let us discuss this:
Michelle Obama writes a Bachelor thesis about being a black student 23 years ago.
A women that has been her roommate comes out and agrees that yes indeed, there has been racism, because she and her mother were racists at that point.
That is immediately followed by an attack on Prof X for his reverse racism because he points out that y´all are fucking insane?
Is you all crazy?
The point you’re missing is that, yes, she reacted, but we’re trying to determine if she still thinks that way: Why keep it locked up? Why be friends with Bernadette Dohrn? And it wasn’t 23 years ago when her kids were baptised by Pastor Wright, and it wasn’t 23 years ago when Barack started his career in William Ayers’ livingroom.
And it was this year that she said essentially that she wasn’t proud of the country her husband was to become president of until he was about to become president of it.
These people have a lifelong history of alliances, words and actions that are antagonistic to this country. If a 23 year old thesis was all there was it could be chalked up to the passion of youth colored by experience to that point. [/quote]
ja, these people also have a long history of a country that was antagonistic to them.
What should she have been proud of?
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
orion wrote:
Hell, no, let us discuss this:
Michelle Obama writes a Bachelor thesis about being a black student 23 years ago.
A women that has been her roommate comes out and agrees that yes indeed, there has been racism, because she and her mother were racists at that point.
That is immediately followed by an attack on Prof X for his reverse racism because he points out that y´all are fucking insane?
Is you all crazy?
The point you’re missing is that, yes, she reacted, but we’re trying to determine if she still thinks that way: Why keep it locked up? Why be friends with Bernadette Dohrn? And it wasn’t 23 years ago when her kids were baptised by Pastor Wright, and it wasn’t 23 years ago when Barack started his career in William Ayers’ livingroom.
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I trust her judgment of Rev Wright more than yours.
Since she knows him for decades and you don´t.
If I take some posts out of your several hundred I can make you look like a pedophile.
Be sure to never run for office.
why people care about this is beyond me. And actually pretty pathetic that it’s important enough for some to be discussed on a bodybuilding forum.
i dislike the democrats just as much as anyone, but one thing i dislike more is this personal attack crap disguised as a political discussion.
do you think john mccain said only nice things and pleasantries to his captors? of course not.
if a videotape of mccain surfaced, showing him make racially charged comments about Vietnamese people during/after his imprisonment, do you think we would all hold it against him? of course not.
stop.think.wipe the foam off your mouths.and try thinking again.
kill whitey
[quote]orion wrote:
<<< What should she have been proud of?
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Nothing. This country was a force for pure evil before Barack Obama was nominated for president. Nothing of note was accomplished before that.
[quote]orion wrote:
<<< If I take some posts out of your several hundred I can make you look like a pedophile.
Be sure to never run for office.
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When Wright cites James Cone and liberation theology as his own that’s all I need to hear.
Liberation theology is an overtly Marxist perversion of the Christian religion in which sin is capitalism and socialism somehow becomes the message of Christ. This is not Obama derenged Tiribulus talking this has been common knowledge for decades. The oft cited clips fall right in line with what he himself says he believes.
People really sell the Obamas short when they ask if anybody really believes they were influenced by 20 years in a Marxist church. I don’t believe they were influenced at all. They were there for 20 years because that church preaches what they believe or they’re idiots and attend a church for 2 decades that doesn’t preach what they believe.
I couldn’t care less about the couple famous statements from Wright. It’s the overall worldview that Wright himself, to his credit, declares he wholeheartedly subscribes to that is the antithesis of what made the United States great. I knew about liberation theology in the eighties.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
orion wrote:
Hell, no, let us discuss this:
Michelle Obama writes a Bachelor thesis about being a black student 23 years ago.
A women that has been her roommate comes out and agrees that yes indeed, there has been racism, because she and her mother were racists at that point.
That is immediately followed by an attack on Prof X for his reverse racism because he points out that y´all are fucking insane?
Is you all crazy?
The point you’re missing is that, yes, she reacted, but we’re trying to determine if she still thinks that way: Why keep it locked up? Why be friends with Bernadette Dohrn? And it wasn’t 23 years ago when her kids were baptised by Pastor Wright, and it wasn’t 23 years ago when Barack started his career in William Ayers’ livingroom.
And it was this year that she said essentially that she wasn’t proud of the country her husband was to become president of until he was about to become president of it.
These people have a lifelong history of alliances, words and actions that are antagonistic to this country. If a 23 year old thesis was all there was it could be chalked up to the passion of youth colored by experience to that point. [/quote]
Wow. This woman woke up everyday to her racist roommate and a world that was racist, and you think most black people in that time period were PROUD of how America was acting in general towards them?
Are some of you really that clueless to how people were being treated?
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
orion wrote:
<<< What should she have been proud of?
Nothing. This country was a force for pure evil before Barack Obama was nominated for president. Nothing of note was accomplished before that.[/quote]
Yup, I am sure you would have proudly saluted a country that treated you like shit because of the color of your skin.
It must have been rough at Harvard and Princeton where she painted herself white in public because obviously when she attended, Ivy League schools did not allow blacks due to the incurable racist state of this nation. How unbearable to graduate from 2 of the most prestigious and expensive universities in the world.
She has lived a life of accomplishment and privilege that would have been available to very few blacks anywhere else in the world.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
It must have been rough at Harvard and Princeton where she painted herself white in public because obviously when she attended, Ivy League schools did not allow blacks due to the incurable racist state of this nation. How unbearable to graduate from 2 of the most prestigious and expensive universities in the world.
She has lived a life of accomplishment and privilege that would have been available to very few blacks anywhere else in the world.
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Wait, so instead of acknowledging that she must have been one hell of a student and person to bypass what was against her and still succeed like she did, you would rather act like what she went through wasn’t significant enough to warrant her response?
You can have her own roommate admit publicly what things were like back then and you will still refuse to admit that racism was a huge enough force to warrant this emotion from black people in general?
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
It must have been rough at Harvard and Princeton where she painted herself white in public because obviously when she attended, Ivy League schools did not allow blacks due to the incurable racist state of this nation. How unbearable to graduate from 2 of the most prestigious and expensive universities in the world.
She has lived a life of accomplishment and privilege that would have been available to very few blacks anywhere else in the world.
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Ah, that is the “the American Army can kill whoever it wants, because Hitler was worse” argument in another form.
True, other countries treat black women even worse.
And that is Americas claim to glory?
[quote]orion wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
orion wrote:
Hell, no, let us discuss this:
Michelle Obama writes a Bachelor thesis about being a black student 23 years ago.
A women that has been her roommate comes out and agrees that yes indeed, there has been racism, because she and her mother were racists at that point.
That is immediately followed by an attack on Prof X for his reverse racism because he points out that y´all are fucking insane?
Is you all crazy?
The point you’re missing is that, yes, she reacted, but we’re trying to determine if she still thinks that way: Why keep it locked up? Why be friends with Bernadette Dohrn? And it wasn’t 23 years ago when her kids were baptised by Pastor Wright, and it wasn’t 23 years ago when Barack started his career in William Ayers’ livingroom.
And it was this year that she said essentially that she wasn’t proud of the country her husband was to become president of until he was about to become president of it.
These people have a lifelong history of alliances, words and actions that are antagonistic to this country. If a 23 year old thesis was all there was it could be chalked up to the passion of youth colored by experience to that point.
ja, these people also have a long history of a country that was antagonistic to them.
What should she have been proud of?
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That she was making $350,000 a year in a country that… oppresses her?
[quote]orion wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
orion wrote:
Hell, no, let us discuss this:
Michelle Obama writes a Bachelor thesis about being a black student 23 years ago.
A women that has been her roommate comes out and agrees that yes indeed, there has been racism, because she and her mother were racists at that point.
That is immediately followed by an attack on Prof X for his reverse racism because he points out that y´all are fucking insane?
Is you all crazy?
The point you’re missing is that, yes, she reacted, but we’re trying to determine if she still thinks that way: Why keep it locked up? Why be friends with Bernadette Dohrn? And it wasn’t 23 years ago when her kids were baptised by Pastor Wright, and it wasn’t 23 years ago when Barack started his career in William Ayers’ livingroom.
I trust her judgment of Rev Wright more than yours.
Since she knows him for decades and you don´t.
If I take some posts out of your several hundred I can make you look like a pedophile.
Be sure to never run for office.
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Your pastor just loudly proclaimed: “Goddamn Austria!” and then later said, “Any Austrians who die from terrorism deserve it because our chickens are coming home to roost!”. What do you?
Why was Michelle in a room with a white roommate then? I thought that America at the time was this horrible racist den of iniquity.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
It must have been rough at Harvard and Princeton where she painted herself white in public because obviously when she attended, Ivy League schools did not allow blacks due to the incurable racist state of this nation.
How unbearable to graduate from 2 of the most prestigious and expensive universities in the world.
She has lived a life of accomplishment and privilege that would have been available to very few blacks anywhere else in the world.
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That statement says more about you than it does about her.