Michael Phelps Watch

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
I do agree that the talent pool is smaller for swimming than some sports, but I don�??t think it�??s as small as some people are making out.

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I don’t know about other countries, but in the USA there is a fairly large talent pool of swimmers and the sport is very, very organized. Most, if not all, of the youth swim meets you see taking place are organized under the Olympic team umbrella. Unlike soccer, or baseball, or football that has many different leagues.

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[quote]sen say wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
I do agree that the talent pool is smaller for swimming than some sports, but I don�??t think it�??s as small as some people are making out.

I don’t know about other countries, but in the USA there is a fairly large talent pool of swimmers and the sport is very, very organized. Most, if not all, of the youth swim meets you see taking place are organized under the Olympic team umbrella. Unlike soccer, or baseball, or football that has many different leagues.

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Ya Phelps didnt even swim in the Qualifiers for the relays b/c only one of the four that qualify has to swim in the final.

even our B team made it to the finals

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
Show proof of this “stack”, or shut the fuck up.

EPO is one of the main tests the ADA’s test for.

Like I said, bring some proof, or shut the fuck up.
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…(slow clap)…

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Theyre doing a spot on msnbc about Phelps’ diet now, theyve laid out 12k kcal worth of food. It’s kind of funny, in a sad way.

Edit: Update, He eats that ENTIRE PIZZA. HOLY SHIT HES INHUMAN.

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[quote]Regular Gonzalez wrote:
bostonbigticket wrote:

By contrast I don’t think anyone from my entire state has made the Australian Olympic team for athletics in recent times, and Australia sucks major balls at athletics.

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Thats a pretty ignorant comment. Australia produces more athletes and gold medals than many other countries and only has a fairly small population in comparison. While we are far from dominating, there are still some amazing athletes who have come out of Australia.

Winning a gold medal is a pretty big fucking deal. Which makes me wonder, Phelps has already broken the record halfway through his 2nd Olympics, he could possibly have the potential to reap over 20 olympic gold medals if he keeps going…now that will be close to unbeatable.

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I won’t even comment that I don’t want to take anything from Phelps and that I consider him a stellar champion, because some guys just won’t listen.

Skanker MD, a millionaire who’s totally dependant on his success in his sport and his image as well will of course use all substances and lie about it. We all would.

Handtailored stacks are worth thousands of dollars and are pretty undetectable. Typically only those are caught who are desperate and forget to be cautious.
Angel Heredia for example told how he worked with Jerome Young (400 meters, who advanced from38th rank to top position with his help). He got paid annually, his bonus for big victories alone was 40000$ .

No, you don’t detect good drugs for the most part. And if the Athlete is really good, you don’t have to be reckless, which makes it practically impossible to be caught.

What do you think would happen if Phelps was injured? Swimmers train for five, six hours a day. They’d never pass the opportunity to participate somehow- it’d be sheer madness!

They have bills to pay, a family to feed, a team of nice people who are dependant of them
They know everbody juices anyway
Not participating means not only not earning cash, but your sponsor will degrades your income, too
They know they won’t be caught
They assume (justly) that they actually don’t ENHANCE themselves they only assist regeneration. In other words, they juice to train better, or in case of injury, to be able to train.
People always assume drugs will provide “unfair” muscles/strength, when pro sport is mostly about technique. Knowing you mailny assist your training helps keep the conscience clear.

You wouldn’t juice under these cicumstances?
If your answer is No!, you probably also believe that Lance Armstrong was clean…

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Did anyone see what the Chairman for the Aussie Olympic comity said about the British winning a metal? Something like…

“Not bad seeing how the dont have any swimming pools or soap in the country”

Good stuff

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[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Pretty much a shitload of nothing[/quote]

Are you so simple minded that you can’t understand a very simple request, or are you so fucking conceited that you think the crap you wrote would fool anyone in this thread?

Either provide proof that Phelps is on one of these “stacks”, or shut the fuck up.

You provided many good reasons to juice - but that is not proof that Phelps is guilty of juicing. And accusing him of taking PED’s was the only fucking reason you chimed into this thread. Please don’t insult the rest of us with your lixy-ish, “I respect the guy - but…”.

You are one of those emo motherfuckers who thinks everything should end in a tie. And, god forbid, anyone actually fucking win - well they must be cheating.

GO back to rooting for the terrorists. That suits you much better than faking objectivity.

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[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
I won’t even comment that I don’t want to take anything from Phelps and that I consider him a stellar champion, because some guys just won’t listen.

Skanker MD, a millionaire who’s totally dependant on his success in his sport and his image as well will of course use all substances and lie about it. We all would.

Handtailored stacks are worth thousands of dollars and are pretty undetectable. Typically only those are caught who are desperate and forget to be cautious.
Angel Heredia for example told how he worked with Jerome Young (400 meters, who advanced from38th rank to top position with his help). He got paid annually, his bonus for big victories alone was 40000$ .

No, you don’t detect good drugs for the most part. And if the Athlete is really good, you don’t have to be reckless, which makes it practically impossible to be caught.

What do you think would happen if Phelps was injured? Swimmers train for five, six hours a day. They’d never pass the opportunity to participate somehow- it’d be sheer madness!

They have bills to pay, a family to feed, a team of nice people who are dependant of them
They know everbody juices anyway
Not participating means not only not earning cash, but your sponsor will degrades your income, too
They know they won’t be caught
They assume (justly) that they actually don’t ENHANCE themselves they only assist regeneration. In other words, they juice to train better, or in case of injury, to be able to train.
People always assume drugs will provide “unfair” muscles/strength, when pro sport is mostly about technique. Knowing you mailny assist your training helps keep the conscience clear.

You wouldn’t juice under these cicumstances?
If your answer is No!, you probably also believe that Lance Armstrong was clean…[/quote]

If you were naturally as good as Phelps or Armstrong, would you juice and risk everything you’ve dedicated your life to?

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History being made, while you sit there and watch — awesome!!

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people I know who used EPO told me they couldn’t believe how effective it was. Hand tailored drugs for the champions are even better and they don’t use only one substance.

We’re not talking here about risking something.
You say as if Phelps or other champs knew they just have to do their thing nd everything will work out just fine.

The list of exposed champions is quite big and most of the time they lie till it’s more then obvious.
Armstrong wa probably talented, but so was Ulrich (according to various experts even more), for example. In their sport every single one juices just as in pro Bodybuilding. You could as well ask why Coleman or Arnold or Yates did juice, since they were so talented and dominated “easily” for so long.
Why did Greene juice? He was even an ambassador for the Athletics Federation? Why did he risk everything? Why lie so blatantly?
I hope you can follow me. The logical conclusion is that top genes alone are not enough.

@rainjack
“simple request” my ass. How about finding a way to create cheap energy from rusty barbells?
This is absurd, you should know it better. You’re quite informed about steroids, and you should have an interest in sweeping aside the hypocrisy so athletes can one day juice openly under better conditions. We all would certainly profit from that.

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[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
@rainjack
“simple request” my ass. How about finding a way to create cheap energy from rusty barbells?
This is absurd, you should know it better. You’re quite informed about steroids, and you should have an interest in sweeping aside the hypocrisy so athletes can one day juice openly under better conditions. We all would certainly profit from that.
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You are the one who showed up saying that Phelps is juicing. I asked you to provide proof.

He’s tested every day, and after every race. He says he isn’t juicing, and getting tested 20 some-odd times in China says he isn’t juicing.

Unless you have proof of him juicing, just shut the fuck up about it.

The rest of your post is meaningless drivel. Micheal Phelps’ performance has nothing to do with what you wrote, unless you are so closed minded as to pronounce him guilty without even so much as a trial.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Not to mention you have some countries like Australia whose national past time is swimming.
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Lol

It’s relevant when people are calling him the greatest olympian ever, based on how many gold medals he has won.

I agree that a swimming medal is more impressive some of the other events though. How the fuck is that horse dressage crap an olympic event. The same goes for shooting and powerwalking.

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It’s a rethorical question you ask, the answer is of course “no” but even IF I had any insider information, the hell I would expose anyone.

Phelps isn’t tested daily. For the most time, he wasn’t tested at all. Now these days in China, he is being tested after every race, yes, but his blood samples are totally safe now and could never be exposed.
Most scientists who work in that area freely admit they cannot find new and sophisticated substances and even that most drug use can be obscured.

Now answer my questions or pick just one:
are the top bodybuiders and cyclists juicers?

Why should it be different in other sports?

Why should a champion in one sport be better then others (Coleman, Armstrong, Greene, Marion Jones) who were obviously in need of the needle?

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[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
It’s a rethorical question you ask, the answer is of course “no” but even IF I had any insider information, the hell I would expose anyone.[/quote]

It’s not rhetorical when you accused him of doping. Either show proof, or retract. With your logic, there should be nothing but accusations allowed in court since asking for proof is rhetorical.

[quote]Phelps isn’t tested daily. For the most time, he wasn’t tested at all. Now these days in China, he is being tested after every race, yes, but his blood samples are totally safe now and could never be exposed.
Most scientists who work in that area freely admit they cannot find new and sophisticated substances and even that most drug use can be obscured.[/quote]

My bad. So he’s only being tested 17 fucking times instead of 20-something. What is truly pathetic is that you can’t just say he is innocent until proven guilty.

[quote]Now answer my questions or pick just one:
are the top bodybuiders and cyclists juicers?

Why should it be different in other sports?

Why should a champion in one sport be better then others (Coleman, Armstrong, Greene, Marion Jones) who were obviously in need of the needle?[/quote]

What the fuck are you even wanting to know? I totally support the use of performance enhancing drugs - as much as I support the use of new technologies in materials, and equipment that will give elite athletes an edge to do more.

IFBB Bodybuilding has never been tested, and probably never will be. How can you even draw a parallel between a non-tested sport, and sports where the rules are pretty fucking clear that you are not supposed to juice?

Armstrong was never convicted for doping, so unless you have proof of him doping, you are talking out of your ass.

Marion Jones is in jail, and has had to give all of her gold medals back.

If the rules are in place that ban PED’s, and you fail a test - tough shit. The rules are the rules. If you never fail a test - then in the eyes of the governing body of your sport - you did not juice.

Go back and try again. You are swimming in a pool that is evidently way over your head.

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Wow that medley was awesome. Another medal, another world record.

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One more event, one more gold, one more World record

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Wow, nice show by Phelps again today~

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To get this thread back on topic, I’d definitely buy a Michael Pehlps watch. It would be so cool if like his top half was the minute hand and his bottom half was the hour hand and you could watch him swim around the face of the watch 24 hours a day.

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[quote]sen say wrote:
To get this thread back on topic, I’d definitely buy a Michael Pehlps. It would be so cool if like his top half was the minute hand and his bottom half was the hour hand and you could watch him swim around the face of the watch 24 hours a day.[/quote]

I believe you’re thinking about some contortionist, not swimmer.