[quote]lucasa wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Females just aren’t good at stand up. There are many comedic actresses - but standup is a totally different gig.
IMO, the rule still applies. For every funny actress, most of us could probably name five funny actors (many of whom are the same stand up comics). You could say that intrinsic ability is the source, but I believe the mentally crippling effects of the “romantic comedy” are also responsible.
It’s like affirmative action for comedic actresses, ensuring that actresses like Meg Ryan, Kate Hudson, and Ashley Judd have mammoth acting careers but never actually do anything funny.
Kinda funny that extending title nine to the mic is a joke in-and-of itself.[/quote]
I don’t agree with that one. I agree with Rainjack that there are just as many funny ACTRESSES as actors. [But not female standup comedians compared to male ones].
The women you name are not comedic actressses at all. And they’re not supposed to be. I do agree that romantic ‘comedies’ has a lot to do with it. Those named women star in mostly romantic comedies, and to the extent this genre of movies is funny at all [and I think they rarely are], they are funny because of the situations the characters are involved in.
And not because of the comedic talents of the stars, be they male or female. I can think of almost no men in these kind of movies who are funny either. Kevin James in Hutch may be a borderline exception, but to the extent he was funny, it was still mostly because of what HAPPENED to his fat, nerdy character and not because of him actually being funny, witty, or sarcastic in any way.
I’ve known several extremely funny women in real life. But they wouldn’t be necessarily be described as ‘feminine’ or ‘loveable’. But they’re ever bit as funny as men-not really in a standup way. But they’re funny, clever, and witty. Just the way they view the world and the things that come out of their mouth, you crack up being around them. It includes dirty and raunchy jokes but mostly not.
Women still get shafted in movies, especially comedies. In dramatic roles, it’s gotten a lot better. But in comedies, women are usually relegated to the ‘hot chick’ or a love interest.