Mega Newbs Training Log

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[quote]jtg987 wrote:
Mega Newb wrote:
legacyfighter wrote:
It’s gotta be the milk. You know what they say, “milk does the body good.” Seriously though, i think im gettin more calories than this on the Get Shredded diet, and i have dropped from 192->178.

My lifts started going down, but then i started training more like you, trying to set PR’s every week, whether it be 8 reps or 3 reps, and my strength has really started to go back up, and i have actually became quite a bit stronger while dieting because of this. Which leads me to the conclusion that its your training and not your eating that has been causing you to have such great gains.

BTW, Awesome work man, your lifts are truly inspiring! Maybe i will be able to hit my triple bw deadlift, double bw bench, and 2.5 bw squat, by the end of the year if i continue to train like you.

Thanks man, my diet does suck. The only help I got from is is the weight gain. So I put on some muscle and improved my leverages etc. But over all, its the training.

If you dont push for more weight, it wont come. Thats why people lift for years and end up the same. And its why the people making the best progress in bodybuilding are making great strength gains to.

hey have you ever used fitday.com? and logged your calories just be interesting to see the macro nutrient breakdown[/quote]

I have fitday somewhere on my computer, never cared to use it because I always ignore portion sizes when I eat.

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[quote]bignate wrote:

is that u in ur avatar? SICK TATS!!!

[/quote]

Nahh, thats not me in my avatar(its some famous rugby player), but im hoping to look something like that once i get done cutting down. And yea thats a pretty sick tat, wish i had one like it.

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[quote]Mega Newb wrote:
doubleh wrote:
Mega Newb wrote:
shizen wrote:
doubleh wrote:
Mega Newb wrote:
TheDudeAbides wrote:
Mega Newb wrote:
jtg987 wrote:

Pretty much have to agree with this, Im strong because I focus on the lifts and gained a ton of weight. I see people with better genetics than me all the time, but they will never do what I can because they wont try as hard.

But Newb, look at the other side of the coin. Think about all the kids that DO work as hard as you, but come nowhere close to the gains you make. Hard work is one thing, but 2 people working equally as hard will not necessarily make the same progress.

Also, what do you consider to be better genetics than you? You’re not lean, but you’ve admitted that’s a function of your diet.

Hard training is a big part, but so is bulking 120lbs. It wouldnt matter how hard I trained I wouldnt be near these lifts if I didnt weigh as much as I do. Most people wont gain that much weight just to get stronger.

As far as what I consider good genetics…
The weakest kid’s at my school bench more than I did when I started.

I saw a 123lb kid who never lifted before bench 185, deadlift 265, and squat 315 off a low box with a slight spot from me.

I have seen countless kids my age deadlift more than I did when I started, at a lower bodyweight than I was, without hitching.

A pot head at my school squated 550 off a low box and bench 365 with 3 years off and on training, in other words he only trained over the summer for football. And he was only 260’s and one of the laziest kids you will ever meet.

A little 14 year old kid bench 345 and hex deadlift 455 after 3 deadlift workouts (he was on d-boll supposedly tho)

And a bunch of kids who benched over 200 at 14.

I look at people like this and I know if they trained with me and gained as much weight as me they would beat if not tie my lifts. I mean the one pothead kid did 550 with a olympic belt off a low box.

Gvie him a good belt and take the box away, hes probably at 600. Give him knee wraps hes at 650, have him bulk to 320 and train right the whole time and he would be repping 700. I dont even want to think of what that kid could do with smolov and some motivation.[/quote]

Well, weight gain only means one thing: you are eating enough to maximize your muscle growth and repair. Fat doesn’t help lift weight (well maybe a tiny bit through leverages in squat and bench, but I digress). So by eating a ton, you are getting as big and as strong as you possibly could. Eating in extreme excess and gaining a lot of fat doesn’t make your body synthesize protein any faster. You can’t “force” growth.

And being “weak” when you started doesn’t really mean much at your age. There’s a BIG differenc between starting to train at 14 years old and starting at 25. You are still maturing and growing naturally.

Also, some kids have great starting strength but grow at a slower rate than others, while others are “weak” when they start lifting, but a year in and they’ve made astounding progress. I think you’re the latter. My point is that you’ve GROWN at a simply astomnishing rate over the few years you’ve trained, and THAT is a function of good genetics.

As far as all these kids who never lift putting up big numbers… Newb, I’m not saying I don’t believe you, but you witnessed all these lifts? I mean, a 123-lb kid, supposedly untrained, squatting nearly 2.75x BW? A barely trained “pothead” benching 365 and squatting 550 below paralell? A “little” 14-year-old benching 345? Like I said, I’ve been around a while and this is NOT NORMAL. So either A) your HS is a steroid dealer’s Mecca, or B) you live in the land of freaks. Again, this is NOT normal for HS kids. I will say this: over my time I’ve been around a few “freaks”. Suffice to say that after a while, I learned quite a few of them were imbibing in Vitamin T. This, of course, changes everything, but since I do believe you are natural, my opinion remains the same: you have been blessed with good genetics, and have taken full advantage of that gift by training your ass off (on? ha ha) and eating enough to maximize growth.

PS - Newb I don’t mean to clutter up your thread if this is off-topic and not what you want in your log. If you’d rather not continue the discussion let me know.

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[quote]shizen wrote:
Doubleh a lot of those devision one freaks drink every weekend, smoke pot and don’t eat correctly. They also don’t take weightlifting SERIOUSLY, I see so many gifted athletes rely just on that, their talent.

I have never met ANYONE as dedicated as newb to weight training, he eats and lifts correctly something no high school kid not even on this site can really say they do-he has been doing it correctly from the start, largely in part to research and training partners-.

He is not afraid to gain a lot of weight in order to be better at weightlifting. Also I remember a thread where newb listed his lifts when he first started out, and they were not impressive at all.

A lot of people ‘think’ they work hard but really they do not. I like to think I train hard and eat well, but newb clearly out does me. He makes lifting a priority and his results show. [/quote]

I agree with the first paragraph, but then again there are plenty of those guys that DO work hard and take it seriously.

Anyway, I won’t be redundant here. See my reply to Newb, it addresses most of what you’re saying.

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[quote]doubleh wrote:
Mega Newb wrote:
doubleh wrote:
Mega Newb wrote:
shizen wrote:
doubleh wrote:
Mega Newb wrote:
TheDudeAbides wrote:
Mega Newb wrote:
jtg987 wrote:

Pretty much have to agree with this, Im strong because I focus on the lifts and gained a ton of weight. I see people with better genetics than me all the time, but they will never do what I can because they wont try as hard.

But Newb, look at the other side of the coin. Think about all the kids that DO work as hard as you, but come nowhere close to the gains you make. Hard work is one thing, but 2 people working equally as hard will not necessarily make the same progress.

Also, what do you consider to be better genetics than you? You’re not lean, but you’ve admitted that’s a function of your diet.

Hard training is a big part, but so is bulking 120lbs. It wouldnt matter how hard I trained I wouldnt be near these lifts if I didnt weigh as much as I do. Most people wont gain that much weight just to get stronger.

As far as what I consider good genetics…
The weakest kid’s at my school bench more than I did when I started.

I saw a 123lb kid who never lifted before bench 185, deadlift 265, and squat 315 off a low box with a slight spot from me.

I have seen countless kids my age deadlift more than I did when I started, at a lower bodyweight than I was, without hitching.

A pot head at my school squated 550 off a low box and bench 365 with 3 years off and on training, in other words he only trained over the summer for football. And he was only 260’s and one of the laziest kids you will ever meet.

A little 14 year old kid bench 345 and hex deadlift 455 after 3 deadlift workouts (he was on d-boll supposedly tho)

And a bunch of kids who benched over 200 at 14.

I look at people like this and I know if they trained with me and gained as much weight as me they would beat if not tie my lifts. I mean the one pothead kid did 550 with a olympic belt off a low box.

Gvie him a good belt and take the box away, hes probably at 600. Give him knee wraps hes at 650, have him bulk to 320 and train right the whole time and he would be repping 700. I dont even want to think of what that kid could do with smolov and some motivation.

Well, weight gain only means one thing: you are eating enough to maximize your muscle growth and repair. Fat doesn’t help lift weight (well maybe a tiny bit through leverages in squat and bench, but I digress). So by eating a ton, you are getting as big and as strong as you possibly could. Eating in extreme excess and gaining a lot of fat doesn’t make your body synthesize protein any faster. You can’t “force” growth.

And being “weak” when you started doesn’t really mean much at your age. There’s a BIG differenc between starting to train at 14 years old and starting at 25. You are still maturing and growing naturally.

Also, some kids have great starting strength but grow at a slower rate than others, while others are “weak” when they start lifting, but a year in and they’ve made astounding progress. I think you’re the latter. My point is that you’ve GROWN at a simply astomnishing rate over the few years you’ve trained, and THAT is a function of good genetics.

As far as all these kids who never lift putting up big numbers… Newb, I’m not saying I don’t believe you, but you witnessed all these lifts? I mean, a 123-lb kid, supposedly untrained, squatting nearly 2.75x BW? A barely trained “pothead” benching 365 and squatting 550 below paralell? A “little” 14-year-old benching 345? Like I said, I’ve been around a while and this is NOT NORMAL. So either A) your HS is a steroid dealer’s Mecca, or B) you live in the land of freaks. Again, this is NOT normal for HS kids. I will say this: over my time I’ve been around a few “freaks”. Suffice to say that after a while, I learned quite a few of them were imbibing in Vitamin T. This, of course, changes everything, but since I do believe you are natural, my opinion remains the same: you have been blessed with good genetics, and have taken full advantage of that gift by training your ass off (on? ha ha) and eating enough to maximize growth.

PS - Newb I don’t mean to clutter up your thread if this is off-topic and not what you want in your log. If you’d rather not continue the discussion let me know.[/quote]

The 14 year old was supposedly on d-bol, and had gained 40lbs over summer while doing nothing other than benching and curling. As soon as he started doing hex deadlifts he shot up to 455 before he gave them up because they were hard.

The barley traiend pot head had been lifting every summer since he was a freshmen and he was then a senior. He had a weight lifting class every other day for all of highschool as well. But He never really lifted other than to max every now and then. He was a shorter guy and a football player. He put about 50lbs on his squat every year of highschool while never really training them other than to max a few times a year for the football team.

And the 123lb kid might have been 132lbs, He is 5ft5 16 years old. The squat was spotted by me, I definitley helped him allot. but for his first time squating to get 315 off a low box with a spot is still something to brag about. He is real small so it was really easy to spot him. And what I call a low box was just about paralel for him.

I witnessed all these lifts, because I knew the kids personally.The only lift I didnt see was the 14 year old bench 340, but I saw him repping 275 and 300 without to much of a poblem so I took his word for it.

There actually does seem to be somewhat of a steroid problem at my school. I can think of 5 kids who took them, and Im not even friends with that crowd. So Im sure there are many more. there was kids who started steroids before they started lifting. No pct, no planned cycle. They would just buy a few weeks of oral steroids of some kind and take them until they ran out, while dieting, and benching every day.

My genetics are probably good, I would assume at least. Tho I would like to see how I would compare to someone else who has done the same thing as me. I think anyone who bulks 120lbs over 3 years while doing serious strength training as a teenager will get very strong.

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[quote]Mega Newb wrote:
doubleh wrote:
Mega Newb wrote:
doubleh wrote:
Mega Newb wrote:
shizen wrote:
doubleh wrote:
Mega Newb wrote:

The 14 year old was supposedly on d-bol, and had gained 40lbs over summer… [/quote]

Well there ya go.

[quote]The barley traiend pot head had been lifting every summer since he was a freshmen and he was then a senior. He had a weight lifting class every other day for all of highschool as well.

But He never really lifted other than to max every now and then. He was a shorter guy and a football player. He put about 50lbs on his squat every year of highschool while never really training them other than to max a few times a year for the football team.[/quote]

Since he took weight training as a class, I get the impression he trained a bit more frequently than you’re letting on. But either way, 50 lbs a year for 4 years means he started out with a max of 350 at 14 years old untrained.

Regardless of BW, I’ll go ahead and label him “gifted”. Not too many people maxing 3 and a half untrained, first time they squat… ESPECIALLY at 14 years old (or however old he was as a freshman).

I suppose I agree, it’s tough for me to ascertain what strength is average/good/great/elite for smaller guys b/c I don’t remember what weights these guys moved. Plus, there’s the law of diminishing returns re: the BW and maximal strength correlation. Nevertheless, that still sounds like he’s pretty damn strong.

[quote]I witnessed all these lifts, because I knew the kids personally.The only lift I didnt see was the 14 year old bench 340, but I saw him repping 275 and 300 without to much of a poblem so I took his word for it.

There actually does seem to be somewhat of a steroid problem at my school. I can think of 5 kids who took them, and Im not even friends with that crowd. So Im sure there are many more. there was kids who started steroids before they started lifting.

No pct, no planned cycle. They would just buy a few weeks of oral steroids of some kind and take them until they ran out, while dieting, and benching every day.

My genetics are probably good, I would assume at least. Tho I would like to see how I would compare to someone else who has done the same thing as me. I think anyone who bulks 120lbs over 3 years while doing serious strength training as a teenager will get very strong. [/quote]

I agree. The progress you’ve made is a direct result of plenty of hard work and eating enough, set against a backdrop of good genes. That’s all I was getting at. Not to take anything away from what you’ve accomplished; on the contrary, I am trying to make a case as to how exceedingly rare your level of strength is for a guy your age.

Keep up the good work.

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[quote]doubleh wrote:
Mega Newb wrote:
doubleh wrote:
Mega Newb wrote:
doubleh wrote:
Mega Newb wrote:
shizen wrote:
doubleh wrote:
Mega Newb wrote:

The 14 year old was supposedly on d-bol, and had gained 40lbs over summer…

Well there ya go.

The barley traiend pot head had been lifting every summer since he was a freshmen and he was then a senior. He had a weight lifting class every other day for all of highschool as well.

But He never really lifted other than to max every now and then. He was a shorter guy and a football player. He put about 50lbs on his squat every year of highschool while never really training them other than to max a few times a year for the football team.

Since he took weight training as a class, I get the impression he trained a bit more frequently than you’re letting on. But either way, 50 lbs a year for 4 years means he started out with a max of 350 at 14 years old untrained.

Regardless of BW, I’ll go ahead and label him “gifted”. Not too many people maxing 3 and a half untrained, first time they squat… ESPECIALLY at 14 years old (or however old he was as a freshman).

And the 123lb kid might have been 132lbs, He is 5ft5 16 years old. The squat was spotted by me, I definitley helped him allot. but for his first time squating to get 315 off a low box with a spot is still something to brag about. He is real small so it was really easy to spot him. And what I call a low box was just about paralel for him.

I suppose I agree, it’s tough for me to ascertain what strength is average/good/great/elite for smaller guys b/c I don’t remember what weights these guys moved. Plus, there’s the law of diminishing returns re: the BW and maximal strength correlation. Nevertheless, that still sounds like he’s pretty damn strong.

I witnessed all these lifts, because I knew the kids personally.The only lift I didnt see was the 14 year old bench 340, but I saw him repping 275 and 300 without to much of a poblem so I took his word for it.

There actually does seem to be somewhat of a steroid problem at my school. I can think of 5 kids who took them, and Im not even friends with that crowd. So Im sure there are many more. there was kids who started steroids before they started lifting.

No pct, no planned cycle. They would just buy a few weeks of oral steroids of some kind and take them until they ran out, while dieting, and benching every day.

My genetics are probably good, I would assume at least. Tho I would like to see how I would compare to someone else who has done the same thing as me. I think anyone who bulks 120lbs over 3 years while doing serious strength training as a teenager will get very strong.

I agree. The progress you’ve made is a direct result of plenty of hard work and eating enough, set against a backdrop of good genes. That’s all I was getting at. Not to take anything away from what you’ve accomplished; on the contrary, I am trying to make a case as to how exceedingly rare your level of strength is for a guy your age.

Keep up the good work.[/quote]

Oh about the 123lb kid, when he was 15 I saw him doing hand stand pushups and 1 arm pushups and chinups. I asked him about it he told me he never worked out. I suppose maybe he was doin shit like that from time to time and never considered it a workout.

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Ok, first time in forever with a lift off…

bench
135x10
225x10
315x10
405x2 flatened out, lost form, was loose, things just didnt click… Il probably easily double that next time.

Close Grip
135x10
185x10
275x10
365x1 Horible lift off, things didnt click again, flattened out when I got the lift off. Il probably hit this for 2 easy reps next time.

Incline
135x10
225x10
315x2 This is about right, once I get used to incline Il be doing more.

Seated Shoulder Press
135x10
185x10
275x2 I got a lift off that left the bar way out infront of me, and had a seat that gave me no upper back support/stability. Il do much better than this nextime aswell

Decline
135x10
225x10
315x10
365x3 Il Improve this aswell.

If I got sets of 10 with all these weights I would probably die of joy. I seem to have gotten weaker, but I really enjoyed this workout. I got to toy with the big guy weights tonight and it was nice. Im looking forward to the added size from this volume, and making gains this way.

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Damn, how old are you now ?
Wish I’d been pushing that kind of weight at your age, anyway.
But me and my buddies were still known as the “army of stickmen” back then :wink:

Great job on your lifts.

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He’s 17.

Hia. I’m gonna start doing Deads/squats next week, and I can’t friggin’ wait to push myself to new records. I see you’re still going strong, and I love the new avatar by the way. I’m definitely gonna try to make something like that myself!

I see your previous training session didn’t go all that well, consider taking an easy week and then going up to your maxes again if pushing for it doesn’t work.

stay dedicated and strong!!
-tommy

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[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Damn, how old are you now ?
Wish I’d been pushing that kind of weight at your age, anyway.
But me and my buddies were still known as the “army of stickmen” back then :wink:

Great job on your lifts.[/quote]

Thanks man, like tmmmey said, im 17. Birthday is may 9th

[quote]Tmmmey wrote:
He’s 17.

Hia. I’m gonna start doing Deads/squats next week, and I can’t friggin’ wait to push myself to new records. I see you’re still going strong, and I love the new avatar by the way. I’m definitely gonna try to make something like that myself!

I see your previous training session didn’t go all that well, consider taking an easy week and then going up to your maxes again if pushing for it doesn’t work.

stay dedicated and strong!!
-tommy[/quote]

I dont even want to fuck with maxes, right now they gotta be low. Im just gonna try and improve my reps. And then once Im happy with my rep strength. Im gonna start a max effort day for bench so I get goo at low reps.

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Hammer Strength Row
405x5x10 1x20

hammer strenth shrug
495x5x10 1x20

curl, strict
10x10
20x10
30x10
40x10
60x6
60x10

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Been eating like shit latley, not enough food, not enough protein, sleeping weird hours. This morning I woke up, didnt take a shower, had a glass of chocolate milk and went to lift, because i felt sick and wasnt hungry. Well here’s the result of that…

bench
135x10
225x10
315x10
405x0 bad groove
405x1 …anyone got a razor blade I can slit my wrists with?

Close grip
135x10
185x10
275x10
365x1

Incline
135x10
225x10
315x0 loss of form razor blade anyone?

shoulder press, seated
135x10
185x10
275x3

decline
135x10
225x10
315x10
365x3

I made sure to get in enough protein for the rest of the day.

Im gonna get my diet in line, in other words, more meals, more protein, more calories etc. I need to get serious, because that workout today sucked.

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[quote]Mega Newb wrote:
Been eating like shit latley, not enough food, not enough protein, sleeping weird hours. This morning I woke up, didnt take a shower, had a glass of chocolate milk and went to lift, because i felt sick and wasnt hungry. Well here’s the result of that…

bench
135x10
225x10
315x10
405x0 bad groove
405x1 …anyone got a razor blade I can slit my wrists with?

Close grip
135x10
185x10
275x10
365x1

Incline
135x10
225x10
315x0 loss of form razor blade anyone?

shoulder press, seated
135x10
185x10
275x3

decline
135x10
225x10
315x10
365x3

I made sure to get in enough protein for the rest of the day.

Im gonna get my diet in line, in other words, more meals, more protein, more calories etc. I need to get serious, because that workout today sucked.
[/quote]

Man, YOU know you need to pull yourself together if you want bigger numbers. If YOU want it bad enough you’ll manage to eat enough to do it. I understand being sick, but if you’re doing htis all the time being weaker is to be expected.

You have WAY to much potential to squander it by eating like a girl.

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[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
Mega Newb wrote:
Been eating like shit latley, not enough food, not enough protein, sleeping weird hours. This morning I woke up, didnt take a shower, had a glass of chocolate milk and went to lift, because i felt sick and wasnt hungry. Well here’s the result of that…

bench
135x10
225x10
315x10
405x0 bad groove
405x1 …anyone got a razor blade I can slit my wrists with?

Close grip
135x10
185x10
275x10
365x1

Incline
135x10
225x10
315x0 loss of form razor blade anyone?

shoulder press, seated
135x10
185x10
275x3

decline
135x10
225x10
315x10
365x3

I made sure to get in enough protein for the rest of the day.

Im gonna get my diet in line, in other words, more meals, more protein, more calories etc. I need to get serious, because that workout today sucked.

Man, YOU know you need to pull yourself together if you want bigger numbers. If YOU want it bad enough you’ll manage to eat enough to do it. I understand being sick, but if you’re doing htis all the time being weaker is to be expected.

You have WAY to much potential to squander it by eating like a girl.[/quote]

well said lol

Well I went shoping today and stocked up for at least a week. So Hopefully there will be a steady increase in numbers.

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[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
Mega Newb wrote:
Been eating like shit latley, not enough food, not enough protein, sleeping weird hours. This morning I woke up, didnt take a shower, had a glass of chocolate milk and went to lift, because i felt sick and wasnt hungry. Well here’s the result of that…

bench
135x10
225x10
315x10
405x0 bad groove
405x1 …anyone got a razor blade I can slit my wrists with?

Close grip
135x10
185x10
275x10
365x1

Incline
135x10
225x10
315x0 loss of form razor blade anyone?

shoulder press, seated
135x10
185x10
275x3

decline
135x10
225x10
315x10
365x3

I made sure to get in enough protein for the rest of the day.

Im gonna get my diet in line, in other words, more meals, more protein, more calories etc. I need to get serious, because that workout today sucked.

Man, YOU know you need to pull yourself together if you want bigger numbers. If YOU want it bad enough you’ll manage to eat enough to do it. I understand being sick, but if you’re doing htis all the time being weaker is to be expected.

You have WAY to much potential to squander it by eating like a girl.[/quote]

Totaly Agree…Time to stop slacking mate!

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two questions

  1. do you have any idea how many grams of protein you get per day? on average
  2. do you know how many calories you’re consuming? on average

If you’re not sure, take a guess.

I used to eat around 150-250g protein per day. Started eating 300-350 now to see if I notice any differences… That’s why I’m wondering.

Cheers

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[quote]Tmmmey wrote:
two questions

  1. do you have any idea how many grams of protein you get per day? on average
  2. do you know how many calories you’re consuming? on average

If you’re not sure, take a guess.

I used to eat around 150-250g protein per day. Started eating 300-350 now to see if I notice any differences… That’s why I’m wondering.

Cheers[/quote]

no idea, id bet it varies a disturbing ammount tho…

I just figuted out why my bench has sucked the last few workouts.

I started having to lift rhe weight off my self so I could scoot under neath the bar even more, and to avoid hitting the uprights I would press the weight more towards my feet and not lockout. When it gets heavy and I try to press the weight towards my feet the bar hits a brick wall because if it goes any further it will pretty much fall on my stomache. So, just gotta get used to benching right again.

Bench
135x10
225x10
315x10
405x2 first one went towards my feet, second one was easier. Now that I know what the problem is I think Il shoot back up in strength

Close grip
135x10
185x10
275x10
365x2 more weight than last time, but still 40lbs off my best… Then again I didnt do my best after 6 sets of 10 bench

incline
135x10
225x10
315x3 the best i got before was 4, so considering Im doing a bunch of sets Il consider this progress. Starting to get strong on the incline tho thats for sure.

Shoulder press to chin
135x10
185x10
275x4 beat last time, and the chair i used was more upright, anyway, gains.

Decline
135x10
225x10
315x10
365x4 brother touched it at the top on the 4th because my elbows were rotating back to far it seems.

lookin forwards to putting at least a rep on everything next time.

Goals for right now are…

Incline 315x10 or 365x2+ reps
Close grip 405x3+ reps
Shoulder press 315x reps
Get my bench back up in the higher rep range with 405, 405x10 would be amazing.

Right now im training with sets of 10 etc,but when I feel i have stalled out on progress, I will cut down the warm up sets to tripels and singels and use heavier weight for low reps.

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how bout some squats and deads!!! cant lose the strength meganewb! i just started doing sets of 10 also to try and gain some mass so far im sore as fuck and already feel bigger lol

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[quote]bignate wrote:
how bout some squats and deads!!! cant lose the strength meganewb! i just started doing sets of 10 also to try and gain some mass so far im sore as fuck and already feel bigger lol[/quote]

I would have been squating this whole time but my body weight and training frequency/weight has really been getting to me in the last few months. Im gettin bad knee pain, patella tendon pain, and shin splits from squating and deadlifting. And my hips kill me at the bottom of my squat. Its gettin so bad that just doing a body weight squat puts me in pain, even my ankles hurt. I cant do leg press, hack squats, front squats, or anything without patella pain. I figured if Im gonna take time off squats because of my knee’s and hips that it would take away the point if I deadlifted.

I tryed comin back to squats a few weeks ago at 495, and two workouts in my knee’s and hip hurt so bad that my body was making me hold back so much on my squat that I was only doing 405ish.

I dont know what Im gonna do for squats or deadlifts but it wont involve feeling like a old man at 17.