Meet Results? There Werent Any

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[quote]apwsearch wrote:
I thought you had all the answers and knew everything about me. What I’ve done, what I haven’t done. What I know, what I don’t know.

Now all these questions. Hmmmm.

I have no idea why you went scurrying up the water tower over a post I made in an attempt to encourage a new lifter. I only attached it to your post because I thought you were being particularly discouraging.

You are insignificant to me. I have taken dumps that were more important to me than what you think, perceive or want to get ‘out in the open.’

Seriously. Lighten up, Francis.

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I am gonna be frank: let’s stop this crap. The both of you’s is old enough to know better. This is the internet, get a grip.

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[quote]PeteS wrote:

[quote]apwsearch wrote:
I thought you had all the answers and knew everything about me. What I’ve done, what I haven’t done. What I know, what I don’t know.

Now all these questions. Hmmmm.

I have no idea why you went scurrying up the water tower over a post I made in an attempt to encourage a new lifter. I only attached it to your post because I thought you were being particularly discouraging.

You are insignificant to me. I have taken dumps that were more important to me than what you think, perceive or want to get ‘out in the open.’

Seriously. Lighten up, Francis.

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I am gonna be frank: let’s stop this crap. The both of you’s is old enough to know better. This is the internet, get a grip.
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i thought you were Pete. okay Frank, i don’t know better. i forget that this is the internet where anyone can be tough and strong and important without a shred of evidence to prove it.

don’t worry though, i’m very done with APW.

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Man, come on guys…

Can’t we all just get along and do some concentric-only front squats against mini bands?

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[quote]Stronghold wrote:
Man, come on guys…

Can’t we all just get along and do some concentric-only front squats against mini bands?[/quote]

What part of the squat or deadlift does that improve?

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[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:

[quote]Stronghold wrote:
Man, come on guys…

Can’t we all just get along and do some concentric-only front squats against mini bands?[/quote]

What part of the squat or deadlift does that improve?[/quote]

Wherever you’re weak. That’s the problem with kids these days. Expecting a specific and well thought out answer.

Sheesh.

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[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:

[quote]Stronghold wrote:
Man, come on guys…

Can’t we all just get along and do some concentric-only front squats against mini bands?[/quote]

What part of the squat or deadlift does that improve?[/quote]

You get internetz points for every rep.

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[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:

[quote]Stronghold wrote:
Man, come on guys…

Can’t we all just get along and do some concentric-only front squats against mini bands?[/quote]

What part of the squat or deadlift does that improve?[/quote]

You get internetz points for every rep.[/quote]

Awsome! Just what I need!

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[quote]i thought you were Pete. okay Frank, i don’t know better. i forget that this is the internet where anyone can be tough and strong and important without a shred of evidence to prove it.

don’t worry though, i’m very done with APW.

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Point taken, Pete.

Since MM got a parting shot, I think I’ll swing the bat.

My point is I don’t feel obligated to post personal information on the internet so I can have some inflated ego, Foghorn Leghorn looking mother fucker who is probably pushing himself to the limit operating a video camera ordain wether or not I am worthy of having an opinion on a fucking internet forum.

Seriously. Who the fuck do you think you are?

Is that plainly stated enough for you?

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[quote]apwsearch wrote:

[quote]i thought you were Pete. okay Frank, i don’t know better. i forget that this is the internet where anyone can be tough and strong and important without a shred of evidence to prove it.

don’t worry though, i’m very done with APW.

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Point taken, Pete.

Since MM got a parting shot, I think I’ll swing the bat.

My point is I don’t feel obligated to post personal information on the internet so I can have some inflated ego, Foghorn Leghorn looking mother fucker who is probably pushing himself to the limit operating a video camera ordain wether or not I am worthy of having an opinion on a fucking internet forum.

Seriously. Who the fuck do you think you are?

Is that plainly stated enough for you?[/quote]

I think you need to do some more concentric-only front squats against bands.

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Agreed . I’d never lift usapl again. That rule on underwear is retdarded. The t shirt rule is stupid. Make a rule against obscenity and let it at the discretion of the meet director and head judge.

What many don’t realize is many of these rules are adapted from Olympic weightlifting . The same bar must be used. Continuous upward motion is another . Now I’m nit advocating hitching , but if a bar stalls on say a deadlift and someone pulls it out without a hitch, it’s a good lift in my book .

As for depth , it was called very strict at last summer’s ipa meet .

[quote]BigSkwatta wrote:
You always need to read the rules, but the judges are not supposed to walk off and make a decision. The head judge is not even supposed to judge depth unless it is obviously high. the side judges are supposed to judge depth in the moment as they see it.

They have retarded rules, vibrams? Wtf is that going to do. I used to lift AAU, and they were sort of the same way, just not quiet as bad…

USAPL sucks IMO. Sub par equipment… Shitty judging (not passing lifts that should pass is just as bad as passing lifts that shouldn’t)…

I know personally the feds with sloppy judging in the past are cleaning it up… big time.

I was at an SPF meet awhile back, and this year I was told they were cleaning up their judging. They were 100% serious. Bar come up slightly tilted on bench, if you didn’t correct it and lockout evenly on time, then red light. Squats were judged strict as hell. If you didn’t hit depth then you weren’t getting it.

IPA has cleaned up their shit too. APF has never been too bad.

This is all my opinion, some of you may disagree, but its way better to go with a fed that doesn’t try and “preserve the integrity of the sport” by giving their lifters subpar equipment, bullshit rules, and music so gay you probably leave the meet having grown a vagina.

For 99% of people powerlifting is for fun, so why not go to a fed that is more fun. If you are in the 1% that loves the sport, wants to have fun, AND wants to be the best, you still want to have fun, and you want to use better equipment (better bars, benches, monolift, no retarded rules against underwear and vibrams)so that you can put up the most weight possible.

SPF and IPA are my favorites. APF is good too. I used to do AAU, IBP, and went to some USAPL meets, but I got tired of the bullshit of the AAU and USAPL and went with other feds, that coincidently have far stronger lifters on average.

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A monolift is safer , so that equates to better in my book . You can use straps or chains to insure spotter and lifter safety . Lifters can still step out and set up if they like .

As for walking out or not , handoffs are allowed on benches . If the usapl disallows them then I could understand the purity aspect of the squat .

[quote]jsmiley07 wrote:

[quote]BigSkwatta wrote:
You always need to read the rules, but the judges are not supposed to walk off and make a decision. The head judge is not even supposed to judge depth unless it is obviously high. the side judges are supposed to judge depth in the moment as they see it.

They have retarded rules, vibrams? Wtf is that going to do. I used to lift AAU, and they were sort of the same way, just not quiet as bad…

USAPL sucks IMO. Sub par equipment… Shitty judging (not passing lifts that should pass is just as bad as passing lifts that shouldn’t)…

I know personally the feds with sloppy judging in the past are cleaning it up… big time.

I was at an SPF meet awhile back, and this year I was told they were cleaning up their judging. They were 100% serious. Bar come up slightly tilted on bench, if you didn’t correct it and lockout evenly on time, then red light. Squats were judged strict as hell. If you didn’t hit depth then you weren’t getting it.

IPA has cleaned up their shit too. APF has never been too bad.

This is all my opinion, some of you may disagree, but its way better to go with a fed that doesn’t try and “preserve the integrity of the sport” by giving their lifters subpar equipment, bullshit rules, and music so gay you probably leave the meet having grown a vagina.

For 99% of people powerlifting is for fun, so why not go to a fed that is more fun. If you are in the 1% that loves the sport, wants to have fun, AND wants to be the best, you still want to have fun, and you want to use better equipment (better bars, benches, monolift, no retarded rules against underwear and vibrams)so that you can put up the most weight possible.

SPF and IPA are my favorites. APF is good too. I used to do AAU, IBP, and went to some USAPL meets, but I got tired of the bullshit of the AAU and USAPL and went with other feds, that coincidently have far stronger lifters on average.

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First, meet equipment (bars, plates, etc.) varies even within a federation from meet to meet. Every USAPL meet I have ever been to has had exceptional equipment, and I would never call a monolift better. This can go back to many debates that I would rather not dig up, but you cannot call a monolift any better than squat jacks. That all comes down to a lifters preference on whether they think walking a weight out for squat is better or not. Second, every USAPL meet I have gone to has been conducted in the finest of fashion in some great locations, not places that look like my garage. Finally, ever USAPL meet I have ever been to the depth of a squat is rarely questioned, and that is how I prefer it. A lot of this crap comes down to who is running the meet and whether there are quality judges and a quality meet director. I know any meet that I have ever been to if the judges walked off to come to an agreement on something then the meet director would have punched them in the face over it and taken over themself.[/quote]

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[quote]apwsearch wrote:
Great post PMPM.

One of my biggest criticisms of our sport is when we treat new lifters poorly and do things like this to them.

We should be shepards.

I too had a lifter who showed up in boxers and ended up wearing my tighty wites because this issue came up.

However, he was allowed to make this minor adjustment and continue in the meet.

I have watched judges berate new lifters on the platform in front of everybody because their singlet touched their knee sleeves.

It’s just inexcusable.[/quote]

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Didn’t come through on my last post , but I was a national referee in the adfpa. I think then we could explain a foul to a lifter . I would give quick press calls, as quickly as I saw the bar stop on the chest . You let it sink after that , it was a red light . I would call for the bar when the lift was flagged to save excessive strain or injury .

You can have a strict , but lifter friendly federation . You can allow gear . You can have monolifts . You don’t need rules against t shirts or boxer briefs .

When I last lifted in the adfpa it was 1988. We used inzer blast shirts that gave everyone 10 lbs maybe . Now single ply gives 150+. does it really matter if a shirt is single or double when they allow one like that to begin with. Why not allow 2.5 m knee wraps ? There’s a big difference between a 97 lb female and a shw guy .

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[quote]tom63 wrote:
Didn’t come through on my last post , but I was a national referee in the adfpa. I think then we could explain a foul to a lifter . I would give quick press calls, as quickly as I saw the bar stop on the chest . You let it sink after that , it was a red light . I would call for the bar when the lift was flagged to save excessive strain or injury .

You can have a strict , but lifter friendly federation . You can allow gear . You can have monolifts . You don’t need rules against t shirts or boxer briefs .

When I last lifted in the adfpa it was 1988. We used inzer blast shirts that gave everyone 10 lbs maybe . Now single ply gives 150+. does it really matter if a shirt is single or double when they allow one like that to begin with. Why not allow 2.5 m knee wraps ? There’s a big difference between a 97 lb female and a shw guy .[/quote]

Yeah,single and multi, there isn’t that much difference anymore, especially with some of the Titan single ply stuff. I see guys getting 200+ out of their single ply suits and shirts, if they are even half-decent technicians.

Judging should be strict, but error on the side of the lifter, not the judges ego and misplaced obession with getting in the olympics…

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[quote]tom63 wrote:
Agreed . I’d never lift usapl again. That rule on underwear is retdarded. The t shirt rule is stupid. Make a rule against obscenity and let it at the discretion of the meet director and head judge.

What many don’t realize is many of these rules are adapted from Olympic weightlifting . The same bar must be used. Continuous upward motion is another . Now I’m nit advocating hitching , but if a bar stalls on say a deadlift and someone pulls it out without a hitch, it’s a good lift in my book .

As for depth , it was called very strict at last summer’s ipa meet .

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I’m pretty sure a bar can stall, it just can’t dip back down.

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This is exactly why I left USAPL. At my last meet they told me I couldn’t wear my tshirt because it advertised a my trainers business. Said it wasn’t registered. guess it didn’t mean anything to them that he was the former state chair? Just pissed me off and got in my head.

I’m moving to SPF or IPA. Just too many petty rules in the USAPL. I’m all for Drug Free lifting but when your main advertisement at a meet is about being drug free not about the lifters or the great squats that just happened but about some washed up drug free lifter its just stupid. I came to lift, not hear about how USAPL Ohio wouldn’t be around if it wasn’t for so and so.

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[quote]SteviGX wrote:
Just too many petty rules in the USAPL. I’m all for Drug Free lifting but when your main advertisement at a meet is about being drug free not about the lifters or the great squats that just happened but about some washed up drug free lifter its just stupid.
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That brings up a question. How many other feds are drug free or have a drug free class or division? I ask since thats why I competed in this meet.

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[quote]farmerson12 wrote:

[quote]SteviGX wrote:
Just too many petty rules in the USAPL. I’m all for Drug Free lifting but when your main advertisement at a meet is about being drug free not about the lifters or the great squats that just happened but about some washed up drug free lifter its just stupid.
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That brings up a question. How many other feds are drug free or have a drug free class or division? I ask since thats why I competed in this meet.[/quote]

Powerlifting Watch has a federation comparison chart, that goes by ply, tested, etc.

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Farmerson: If you’d like to give USAPL another try, please come to Summer Powerfest in Killeen. I, along with a handful of my friends, will be competing, and I can promise that as long as we’re around, you’ll have some friendly people to help you out if you need something. A few of us were lifting in the Louisiana State Meet and helped other lifters put on shirts, wrap knees, etc. whom we hadn’t met. When in doubt, blast the forum with questions about the federation. There are plenty of lifters here who lift in every federation and should be able to help you sort out nuances so you can just go lift and enjoy yourself.

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[quote]TigerPower wrote:
Farmerson: If you’d like to give USAPL another try, please come to Summer Powerfest in Killeen. I, along with a handful of my friends, will be competing, and I can promise that as long as we’re around, you’ll have some friendly people to help you out if you need something. A few of us were lifting in the Louisiana State Meet and helped other lifters put on shirts, wrap knees, etc. whom we hadn’t met. When in doubt, blast the forum with questions about the federation. There are plenty of lifters here who lift in every federation and should be able to help you sort out nuances so you can just go lift and enjoy yourself. [/quote]

What is the date of this summer powerfest meet? There is another meet with the same name in Spring Texas on July 16th.