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[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

First, I never wrote that I have no desire to lean out more. I plan to diet more this summer. I don’t care about PLEASING YOU with my level of leanness.

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What? Didnt you just say this like a week ago?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t think I will be dieting much this summer either and wll just work on avoiding gaining much fat while trying to go up. I am seeing the separation in my pec delt tie in that wasn’t there before.

More carbs around training.[/quote]

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I take it as it goes. My goals are not set in stone, but seeing as I am already looking good right now, that is why I am thinking of not worrying about it.

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[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

First, I never wrote that I have no desire to lean out more. I plan to diet more this summer. I don’t care about PLEASING YOU with my level of leanness.

[/quote]

What? Didnt you just say this like a week ago?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t think I will be dieting much this summer either and wll just work on avoiding gaining much fat while trying to go up. I am seeing the separation in my pec delt tie in that wasn’t there before.

More carbs around training.[/quote]

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LOL

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

First, I never wrote that I have no desire to lean out more. I plan to diet more this summer. I don’t care about PLEASING YOU with my level of leanness.

[/quote]

What? Didnt you just say this like a week ago?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t think I will be dieting much this summer either and wll just work on avoiding gaining much fat while trying to go up. I am seeing the separation in my pec delt tie in that wasn’t there before.

More carbs around training.[/quote]

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I take it as it goes. My goals are not set in stone, but seeing as I am already looking good right now, that is why I am thinking of not worrying about it.

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Wait what? A week ago you said you will not be dieting over the summer, a minute ago you said you plan to diet more, a second ago you say I take it as it goes? What exactly are your goals, I am still confused by this. And no I am not attacking you.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

For the record, not that it matters…you are not 15%, sorry (not a dexa or hydrostatic measurement)

Second NOBODY repeat…wait for it NOBODY called you a quote “fat tub of goo” I said PEEL off the goo.

The only reason I said it is, you are gonna be in the teens to get to a good bodyfat level.

Sorry to harsh your mellow.[/quote]

LOL. hat pic isn’t recent. It is two years old.

If I looked like that two years ago…why are guys like you acting like I got obese and stayed that way?

Some of you seem to enjoy trying to make it seem like I ahve to get sm,aller than you to get lean…because it apparently hurts to admit that I might be carrying way more muscle and keep it.[/quote]

Looking at avi, but hard to tell since 99% of your pics are the same pose…why are you posting a 2 year old pic for?

Does not hurt me to admit that you MIGHT be carrying more muscle, but you also MIGHT not be. And since you are never gonna lean up…nobody can prove shit without a serious BF test.

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[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

First, I never wrote that I have no desire to lean out more. I plan to diet more this summer. I don’t care about PLEASING YOU with my level of leanness.

[/quote]

What? Didnt you just say this like a week ago?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t think I will be dieting much this summer either and wll just work on avoiding gaining much fat while trying to go up. I am seeing the separation in my pec delt tie in that wasn’t there before.

More carbs around training.[/quote]

[/quote]

I take it as it goes. My goals are not set in stone, but seeing as I am already looking good right now, that is why I am thinking of not worrying about it.

[/quote]

Wait what? A week ago you said you will not be dieting over the summer, a minute ago you said you plan to diet more, a second ago you say I take it as it goes? What exactly are your goals, I am still confused by this. And no I am not attacking you. [/quote]

My goals are to gvet vbigger and leaner…and since my back has gone upo in strength over the last week, I am thinking of riding that out.

That is called listening to your body and not writing shit in stone an not deviating from it buy disregarding it.

I am this size because of doing what I just explained.

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

For the record, not that it matters…you are not 15%, sorry (not a dexa or hydrostatic measurement)

Second NOBODY repeat…wait for it NOBODY called you a quote “fat tub of goo” I said PEEL off the goo.

The only reason I said it is, you are gonna be in the teens to get to a good bodyfat level.

Sorry to harsh your mellow.[/quote]

LOL. hat pic isn’t recent. It is two years old.

If I looked like that two years ago…why are guys like you acting like I got obese and stayed that way?

Some of you seem to enjoy trying to make it seem like I ahve to get sm,aller than you to get lean…because it apparently hurts to admit that I might be carrying way more muscle and keep it.[/quote]

Looking at avi, but hard to tell since 99% of your pics are the same pose…why are you posting a 2 year old pic for?

Does not hurt me to admit that you MIGHT be carrying more muscle, but you also MIGHT not be. And since you are never gonna lean up…nobody can prove shit without a serious BF test.[/quote]

Like I said, it is very strange watching people tr this hard to insult me.

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[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

First, I never wrote that I have no desire to lean out more. I plan to diet more this summer. I don’t care about PLEASING YOU with my level of leanness.

[/quote]

What? Didnt you just say this like a week ago?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t think I will be dieting much this summer either and wll just work on avoiding gaining much fat while trying to go up. I am seeing the separation in my pec delt tie in that wasn’t there before.

More carbs around training.[/quote]

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Hahahaha. Let’s see the backpedaling.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

For the record, not that it matters…you are not 15%, sorry (not a dexa or hydrostatic measurement)

Second NOBODY repeat…wait for it NOBODY called you a quote “fat tub of goo” I said PEEL off the goo.

The only reason I said it is, you are gonna be in the teens to get to a good bodyfat level.

Sorry to harsh your mellow.[/quote]

LOL. hat pic isn’t recent. It is two years old.

If I looked like that two years ago…why are guys like you acting like I got obese and stayed that way?

Some of you seem to enjoy trying to make it seem like I ahve to get sm,aller than you to get lean…because it apparently hurts to admit that I might be carrying way more muscle and keep it.[/quote]

Looking at avi, but hard to tell since 99% of your pics are the same pose…why are you posting a 2 year old pic for?

Does not hurt me to admit that you MIGHT be carrying more muscle, but you also MIGHT not be. And since you are never gonna lean up…nobody can prove shit without a serious BF test.[/quote]

Like I said, it is very strange watching people tr this hard to insult me.[/quote]

None of that was insulting…your level of narcissism is just unreal.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

First, I never wrote that I have no desire to lean out more. I plan to diet more this summer. I don’t care about PLEASING YOU with my level of leanness.

[/quote]

What? Didnt you just say this like a week ago?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t think I will be dieting much this summer either and wll just work on avoiding gaining much fat while trying to go up. I am seeing the separation in my pec delt tie in that wasn’t there before.

More carbs around training.[/quote]

[/quote]

I take it as it goes. My goals are not set in stone, but seeing as I am already looking good right now, that is why I am thinking of not worrying about it.

[/quote]

Wait what? A week ago you said you will not be dieting over the summer, a minute ago you said you plan to diet more, a second ago you say I take it as it goes? What exactly are your goals, I am still confused by this. And no I am not attacking you. [/quote]

My goals are to get bigger and leaner…and since my back has gone up in strength over the last week, I am thinking of riding that out.

That is called listening to your body and not writing shit in stone and not deviating from it by disregarding it.

I am this size because of doing what I just explained.[/quote]

Can you elaborate on the leaner part? And realistically how much bigger are you trying to get?

Again, not attacking, just trying to understand your mindset so we can stop clashing.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

Because you constantly boast that your size is more impressive than guys who are leaner. You have said that you have no desire to lean out any more. That’s fine, but don’t act like that makes you more impressive than people who have goals to be leaner and don’t mind being smaller.[/quote]

Bullshit…on all of this.

First, I never wrote that I have no desire to lean out more. I plan to diet more this summer. I don’t care about PLEASING YOU with my level of leanness.

Further, it isn’t that size is more impressive. I simply wrote that I gained moe than many here…and you threw a fit for it.

That doesn’t mean I am “more impressive”. It is just the truth. Why does that bother you?[/quote]

If you don’t care about pleasing anyone else here then why do you constantly try to convince everyone that they should be more impressed with your physique? Out of anyone here on this site you care the most about what others think. Thus the constant arguments and you trying to convince everyone your point of view is the accurate one.

When you say stuff like, “I don’t see many here my size.” that implies you think it’s a superior accomplishment. Who would brag about a mediocre achievement?

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[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

Because you constantly boast that your size is more impressive than guys who are leaner. You have said that you have no desire to lean out any more. That’s fine, but don’t act like that makes you more impressive than people who have goals to be leaner and don’t mind being smaller.[/quote]

Bullshit…on all of this.

First, I never wrote that I have no desire to lean out more. I plan to diet more this summer. I don’t care about PLEASING YOU with my level of leanness.

Further, it isn’t that size is more impressive. I simply wrote that I gained moe than many here…and you threw a fit for it.

That doesn’t mean I am “more impressive”. It is just the truth. Why does that bother you?[/quote]

If you don’t care about pleasing anyone else here then why do you constantly try to convince everyone that they should be more impressed with your physique? Out of anyone here on this site you care the most about what others think. Thus the constant arguments and you trying to convince everyone your point of view is the accurate one.

When you say stuff like, “I don’t see many here my size.” that implies you think it’s a superior accomplishment. Who would brag about a mediocre achievement?[/quote]

Aren’t you acting like your “leanness” is a superior accomplishment?

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[quote]Waittz wrote:

Can you elaborate on the leaner part? And realistically how much bigger are you trying to get?

Again, not attacking, just trying to understand your mindset so we can stop clashing. [/quote]

I don’t understand posts like this.

My goal is to get as big and as lean as I can possibly get while still being comfortable in my life as a whole.

That is my mindset.

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Good article and HIGHLY relevant to this discussion.

Written by two national level bodybuilders some here might recognize…might I recomend the section on Dieting and Leptin Resistance.

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Ok…let me get this straight.

“I’m leaner than you even though I am not that big” equals not trying to be superior.

“I’m more muscular than you even though I am not that lean” equals trying to show how superior you are.

Got it.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Ok…let me get this straight.

“I’m leaner than you even though I am not that big” equals not trying to be superior.

“I’m more muscular than you even though I am not that lean” equals trying to show how superior you are.

Got it.[/quote]

No…ending posts with “does not matter what you think I am bigger”

Ignore the fat.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

Because you constantly boast that your size is more impressive than guys who are leaner. You have said that you have no desire to lean out any more. That’s fine, but don’t act like that makes you more impressive than people who have goals to be leaner and don’t mind being smaller.[/quote]

Bullshit…on all of this.

First, I never wrote that I have no desire to lean out more. I plan to diet more this summer. I don’t care about PLEASING YOU with my level of leanness.

Further, it isn’t that size is more impressive. I simply wrote that I gained moe than many here…and you threw a fit for it.

That doesn’t mean I am “more impressive”. It is just the truth. Why does that bother you?[/quote]

If you don’t care about pleasing anyone else here then why do you constantly try to convince everyone that they should be more impressed with your physique? Out of anyone here on this site you care the most about what others think. Thus the constant arguments and you trying to convince everyone your point of view is the accurate one.

When you say stuff like, “I don’t see many here my size.” that implies you think it’s a superior accomplishment. Who would brag about a mediocre achievement?[/quote]

Aren’t you acting like your “leanness” is a superior accomplishment?[/quote]

No.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Ok…let me get this straight.

“I’m leaner than you even though I am not that big” equals not trying to be superior.

“I’m more muscular than you even though I am not that lean” equals trying to show how superior you are.

Got it.[/quote]

You don’t get it. You never get it.

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Ok…let me get this straight.

“I’m leaner than you even though I am not that big” equals not trying to be superior.

“I’m more muscular than you even though I am not that lean” equals trying to show how superior you are.

Got it.[/quote]

No…ending posts with “does not matter what you think I am bigger”

Ignore the fat.[/quote]

With you, do we ignore the lesser degree of muscle?

I mean, seriously, you look decent, but you are not that big for all of this from you.

I never insulted you but you constantly insult me.

Yes, I am likely carrying more muscle than you especially for my height. Yes, that shouild count for something even if I never get into contest shape.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Ok…let me get this straight.

“I’m leaner than you even though I am not that big” equals not trying to be superior.

“I’m more muscular than you even though I am not that lean” equals trying to show how superior you are.

Got it.[/quote]

No…ending posts with “does not matter what you think I am bigger”

Ignore the fat.[/quote]

Yes, I am likely carrying more muscle than you especially for my height.

[/quote]

So you claim…yet cannot prove.

Most here would disagree with the absoluteness of your statements.

And nobody is insulting you…seriously you dance an issue like Fred Astaire.

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Sorry, was in class. Okay, here we go.
First: Professor X, Bauber did NOT “bulk up”, as according to your definition. He stated himself that he watches all of his macros, eats clean, and tries to stay relatively lean year round. He did not, I repeat, did not just “bulk up” and lift for just size like you claim. The guy has plans to compete and wants to diet soon. I don’t know how you would even know what he has done considering you don’t even know him and haven’t, to my knowledge, spoken with him.

Second: I don’t know why you keep throwing out the whole “this shit doesn’t happen in real life” thing. Are you trying to imply that you think that none of us “smaller” or “less developed” guys would have the balls to call you out in real life because we’d be intimidated or something. I can guarantee I wouldn’t be. To follow your lead and use a whole bunch of anecdotal evidence to support my claims, I have numerous buddies who have attained a respectable amount of size. One was on the football team here at my university, weighing in at a high of 305 at a height of 6’2". Another, 5’8" or so, weighed in at around 220, and pretty lean. I have been around plenty of “big” guys, man. Don’t think your size makes you scary to all us “small” guys. I call it how I see it, online or not.

Third: There are other guys close to your size on this site or, in Bauber’s case, bigger. I think H4M is big as hell. As is Waylanderxx. Synergy, etc. I do agree, however, that some of these guys did “bulk” for a time, like you say. Still, I don’t know why you keep saying, “I don’t see many here with this size, development, whatever”, as it’s just not flying.

Lastly: There is a guy that trains at my gym that, I would say, is very close to your size. I do not find this guy all that impressive. There are bigger guys than him there, and leaner at that. You need to stop acting like you’re a monolith or something.