[quote]malonetd wrote:
tom63 wrote:
malonetd wrote:
tom63 wrote:
Because it’s so easy to be in the middle and have no rational thought process. Stuff works or doesn’t work. It’s like being half in favor of gravity.
I know this wasn’t addressed to me, but I’m confused. What exactly are you saying? Are you saying people in the middle don’t think rationally?
I’m pro 2nd Amendment and oppose gun control.
I’m pro choice and pro death penalty (I guess I’m pro death).
I don’t have any problems with gay marriages.
I’m in favor of some forms of social welfare.
I’d like to see Social Security canned.
I’m against any kind of government social/universal health care.
etc, etc.
I hope you’re not saying I lack rational thought because, I’m very “middle” myself.
Most people that i have seen say they are in the “middle” have just not thought about their positions. If you can rationally explain them, I don’t call that middle.
For instance, I oppose gay marriage because I think it’s just a ploy for acceptance and benefits. statistically gay men have a much greater amount of sexual partners than straight men and women. To me it seems that they just want health coverage, not marriage. Also, when it comes to property after a partner dies there is this thing called a will which I have. I’ve heard this boo hoo argument.
As for abortion, I’m pro life wife pragmatism. It’s never going to be illegal, but I think that this right to privacy or women’s choice was fallacious. the government tells many of us what to do with our body. States regulate what various medical procedures, which abortion is.
Personally, I hate it, but it’s not going to be illegal. However, I do think it should be decided state to state.
Most middle people I have met have been knee jerk middle. kind of like that knee jerk liberal, but automatically opposing both parties to show how " thoughtful" they are. If you actually have a rational reason for why and how you think of an issue, I can’t complain and wouldn’t dare to lump you in that crowd. didn’t mean to offend.
I was going to attempt to explain my positioning, but that’s neither here nor there and this isn’t the thread for it.
I don’t think of myself as especially “thoughtful”. I just know where I stand – or at least lean. I also never really thought of myself as opposing both parties, more like agreeing with certain points from both sides. Maybe that’s just a “glass half-full” thing.
I didn’t take offense, I just wasn’t clear on what you meant.[/quote]
I tend to be very conservative based on what I’ve seen’ done, been taught, and observed. When I was about 18, I could predict how I would think about an issue based on if Ted Kennedy was for or against it.
Funny thing, is most times I did it it’s what I would have picked after careful research. Being very conservative is almost a contradiction in itself. The nature of our government works against this and makes it impossible to accomplish. You can’t turn back the New Deal, social security and such and do it in a way i think should be done.
Government messes and will continue to mess in individual’s lives more than I like. On abortion for instance, all I’ve learned about biology tells me that it’s a life. I have hard time accepting abortion. I’ve heard the arguments for and against. Funny thing though, one of the top abortion doctors back in the day lived about 10 or so miles from my house. You can google the Angel of Ashland, a book about his life.
There were very many pro life solid Catholics that took their daughters to get an abortion. He treated many hollywood types allegedly, including a starlet named Marylin Monroe.
So people often say these are there beliefs and thoughts, but chose something different if there is a slight challenge. So I go by the 2nd Amendment. If you area a strong supporter of what I think is the most basic right, you have my vote. what could be more important to self determination than the right to defend yourself? It’s life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. If you take away my ability to defend my life, the others don’t matter much.