Curious as to wether i stunted my growth or will not gain any more muscle. Background: I’m currently in High School and in: Football, Wrestling, and track and throughout my life I have always been the skinny ectomorph. I’m currently 6’1" 167 pounds and am skinny and veiny I bench 165
squat 275
front squat 175
Leg Press 540
Clean 145
All 5 reps
(my offseason lifting set/rep is 3/10 for 4 weeks 4/6 3 weeks then 5/5 3/3 Then repeated and we have many more lifts than this)
As of 3 months ago my bodyfat percentage was about 9%. The bottom line is i have no fat to spare and from what i think no room to build muscle. I am wondering if i can continue to build mass and strength or if i cant due to the lack of fat. I know that to build muscle you need fat. I want to gain weight for football. The supplement i am currently taking is Syntha-6 and dont tell me that i have to eat clean i eat a lot. ONe of the reasons that i am confused is that a website said that if you squat 1.5times your weight you will be no longer skinny i do that but i am very skinny. PLEASE GIVE HELP/SUGGESTIONS.
(BTW im a freshman and i know that the veins are from a low body fat percentage. DOnt call me lazy i been researching for a long time)
your still young. building muscle will be more difficult untill about 18. im twenty and had the same issue, from junior through senior year i put on 30 lbs of muscle…give it time
BUILDING MUSCLE COMES FROM EATING AND EXERCISE, there’s no such thing as stunting that, unless you have a disease. Just eat like crazy and lift hard, it’s not that complicated. It seems like you read a lot of crap on the internet and now you’re confused.
You need to eat more calories than you are using throughout the day in order to grow.
I’ve been in wrestling and track before, practice is brutal. One major problem during wrestling was our coach denied us water to drink during drills and when we ran stairs. I seriously lost about 10-20 pounds in 2-3 weeks.
You WILL need to gain more fat, by eating more. So here’s my last bit of advice, at 167 you aren’t eating ALOT, even if you are then you need to eat more if you aren’t gaining. Also, time, takes time to get muscle.
[quote]YoungBeast wrote:
Curious as to wether i stunted my growth or will not gain any more muscle. Background: I’m currently in High School and in: Football, Wrestling, and track and throughout my life I have always been the skinny ectomorph. I’m currently 6’1" 167 pounds and am skinny and veiny I bench 165
squat 275
front squat 175
Leg Press 540
Clean 145
All 5 reps
(my offseason lifting set/rep is 3/10 for 4 weeks 4/6 3 weeks then 5/5 3/3 Then repeated and we have many more lifts than this)
As of 3 months ago my bodyfat percentage was about 9%. The bottom line is i have no fat to spare and from what i think no room to build muscle. I am wondering if i can continue to build mass and strength or if i cant due to the lack of fat. I know that to build muscle you need fat. I want to gain weight for football. The supplement i am currently taking is Syntha-6 and dont tell me that i have to eat clean i eat a lot. ONe of the reasons that i am confused is that a website said that if you squat 1.5times your weight you will be no longer skinny i do that but i am very skinny. PLEASE GIVE HELP/SUGGESTIONS.
(BTW im a freshman and i know that the veins are from a low body fat percentage. DOnt call me lazy i been researching for a long time)[/quote]
Your bodyfat has nothing to do with gaining muscle. You don’t need more fat to gain.
You aren’t eating enough. Add 1000cals/day for a month and see what happens.
[quote]karlkapinos11 wrote:
your still young. building muscle will be more difficult untill about 18…[/quote]
Could not be more wrong. It’s just really, really hard to eat enough.
If you’re not lactose intolerant and your parents don’t mind footing the bill, eat everything you’re currently eating and add in a gallon of milk a day.
[quote]YoungBeast wrote:
Curious as to wether i stunted my growth or will not gain any more muscle. Background: I’m currently in High School and in: Football, Wrestling, and track and throughout my life I have always been the skinny ectomorph. I’m currently 6’1" 167 pounds and am skinny and veiny I bench 165
squat 275
front squat 175
Leg Press 540
Clean 145
All 5 reps
(my offseason lifting set/rep is 3/10 for 4 weeks 4/6 3 weeks then 5/5 3/3 Then repeated and we have many more lifts than this)
As of 3 months ago my bodyfat percentage was about 9%. The bottom line is i have no fat to spare and from what i think no room to build muscle. I am wondering if i can continue to build mass and strength or if i cant due to the lack of fat. I know that to build muscle you need fat. I want to gain weight for football. The supplement i am currently taking is Syntha-6 and dont tell me that i have to eat clean i eat a lot. ONe of the reasons that i am confused is that a website said that if you squat 1.5times your weight you will be no longer skinny i do that but i am very skinny. PLEASE GIVE HELP/SUGGESTIONS.
(BTW im a freshman and i know that the veins are from a low body fat percentage. DOnt call me lazy i been researching for a long time)[/quote]
Your young and you will grow more muscle if you continue to work at it. Lift hard and smart but maybe not that often if your an ectomorph. You should not workout for more than 45 . 50 minutes or even less time. Just because a person doesn’t look like a professional bodybuilder it doesn’t follow that they aren’t strong nor good at athletics so for instance your squat is very good take pride in that but work to make it even better and remember to compete with yourself.
Are you training your back? You will hold most of your weight there, along with glutes and legs. Squats and benches are but two-thirds of the power triad.
[quote]YoungBeast wrote:
The supplement i am currently taking is Syntha-6 and dont tell me that i have to eat clean i eat a lot. ONe of the reasons that i am confused is that a website said that if you squat 1.5times your weight you will be no longer skinny i do that but i am very skinny.[/quote]
First off, no one cares what supplement you are wasting your money on if you are not eating properly.
Secondly, since you achieved a 1.5x squat and did not instantly become the hulk what does that tell you about that advice as a marker for mass gains?
Lastly, EAT. Since you did not put down what you currently eat I am going to assume you are getting about 2000 calories a day. Prove me wrong and write out exactly what you ate yesterday.
It is not just how much someone eats. Saying that is like denying that ectomorphs exist. They do exist. People have genetic and hormonal set points that are difficult or even impossible to change without drugs. Someone who is a bit hyper in the thyroid department, for example, is often going to be skinny no matter how much they eat. There are also lots of other genetic reasons besides thyroid why someone would be an ectomorph.
There is nothing wrong with it, though. Lots of skinny guys are much stronger than lots of built guys. Consider it a gift. Rock the lean look with confidence. In 10 or 20 years you will have grown into being built and still be lean, while most of your mesomorph football pals will have quickly turned into lardasses during or after college.
In my opinion, from the point of view of lifetime health, assuming it is even possible for you, it would be a mistake to try to gain fat mass now for short term gain. Those fat cells will never go away for the rest of your life and they will always make you hungry if you try to starve them for “cutting”. It is better to just stay cut.
[quote]seekonk wrote:
It is not just how much someone eats. Saying that is like denying that ectomorphs exist. They do exist. People have genetic and hormonal set points that are difficult or even impossible to change without drugs. [/quote]
thats right bro. give up. call yourself an ectomorph have yourself a big old cry about how no matter what you do you simply can’t gain mass (whatever you do don’t eat more and train hard) and resign yourself to your fate.
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wtf??
go see a doc to rule out hyperthyroidism / metabolic disease if you like…
[quote]seekonk wrote:
It is not just how much someone eats. Saying that is like denying that ectomorphs exist. They do exist. People have genetic and hormonal set points that are difficult or even impossible to change without drugs. Someone who is a bit hyper in the thyroid department, for example, is often going to be skinny no matter how much they eat. There are also lots of other genetic reasons besides thyroid why someone would be an ectomorph.
There is nothing wrong with it, though. Lots of skinny guys are much stronger than lots of built guys. Consider it a gift. Rock the lean look with confidence. In 10 or 20 years you will have grown into being built and still be lean, while most of your mesomorph football pals will have quickly turned into lardasses during or after college.
In my opinion, from the point of view of lifetime health, assuming it is even possible for you, it would be a mistake to try to gain fat mass now for short term gain. Those fat cells will never go away for the rest of your life and they will always make you hungry if you try to starve them for “cutting”. It is better to just stay cut. [/quote]
Christ…this is literally the dumbest post I’ve ever read on these boards. And that’s truly saying something.
[quote]seekonk wrote:
It is not just how much someone eats. Saying that is like denying that ectomorphs exist. They do exist. People have genetic and hormonal set points that are difficult or even impossible to change without drugs. Someone who is a bit hyper in the thyroid department, for example, is often going to be skinny no matter how much they eat. There are also lots of other genetic reasons besides thyroid why someone would be an ectomorph.
There is nothing wrong with it, though. Lots of skinny guys are much stronger than lots of built guys. Consider it a gift. Rock the lean look with confidence. In 10 or 20 years you will have grown into being built and still be lean, while most of your mesomorph football pals will have quickly turned into lardasses during or after college.
In my opinion, from the point of view of lifetime health, assuming it is even possible for you, it would be a mistake to try to gain fat mass now for short term gain. Those fat cells will never go away for the rest of your life and they will always make you hungry if you try to starve them for “cutting”. It is better to just stay cut. [/quote]
fail
attempt to justify failure
try to undermine other people’s progress by giving them horrible advice
OP - I was 150 lbs at the same height as you in HS. I’m around 225 now with visible abs in the morning, and I didnt even need drugs to get there. Amazing! You can accomplish a lot by being smart and following the advice of people who gained a lot of mass over the years. Or you can accomplish nothing by making excuses like the guy above. Your choice.
^What Anus Bleach said. I was 130 in HS and now I’m 208. Lift, eat, sleep. Go easy on the alcohol and listen to your body. If you really have a 275x5 squat at 6’1 167 then you’ve got some strength. In my whole life, I’ve seen maybe 10-15 people in the gym who squatted 275 properly. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.
If you are on the football team, why not talk to some of the bigger guys on the football team? I’m sure your lineman and linebackers have some size.
[quote]njrusmc wrote:
In my whole life, I’ve seen maybe 10-15 people in the gym who squatted 275 properly.[/quote]
Word?
You have seen less than 16 people pick 275 up off the rack, squat to depth, then rack the weight?[/quote]
When I actually thought about this, this is probably true for me too, IF I don’t count lifting in high school. Since I returned to lifting after a number of years running, I’ve been in university gyms where very few people squat at all, and of those very few squat to depth. And with those that squat to depth, there are a number who never progress in weight.
