Marzouk Making you LEANER and then BIGGER

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[quote]Marzouk wrote:
So i’m thinking in 10 days to start running 750mg of test e for 12 weeks, whats the consensus?

Along with a-dex, hcg and a nolva/clomid pct.

[/quote]

Interesting that your considering it even though at the end of your last cycle your BP was crazy high. Have you got it checked recently? Have you had blood work done since the cycle?

If you were to do a cycle think about using maybe Test Prop, while dieting. I know Diet dictates if you lose weight or not but I think it might be beneficial if you use a prop instead to cause less bloat.

Are you able to afford gH? Maybe just get some that and take while you are cutting/losing weight.

But seriously I don’t think it would be beneficial for you to run 750mg/week considering what happened last time.

602

My little falafel where are the update pics! Yalla yalla habibe.

603

[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]Marzouk wrote:
So i’m thinking in 10 days to start running 750mg of test e for 12 weeks, whats the consensus?

Along with a-dex, hcg and a nolva/clomid pct.

[/quote]

Interesting that your considering it even though at the end of your last cycle your BP was crazy high. Have you got it checked recently? Have you had blood work done since the cycle?

If you were to do a cycle think about using maybe Test Prop, while dieting. I know Diet dictates if you lose weight or not but I think it might be beneficial if you use a prop instead to cause less bloat.

Are you able to afford gH? Maybe just get some that and take while you are cutting/losing weight.

But seriously I don’t think it would be beneficial for you to run 750mg/week considering what happened last time.[/quote]

Yeah, sounds about right, think i’ll wait until i’m in a healthier place before i run another cycle. I’ll have to look into whether or not i can get test prop here or not.

604

[quote]A-rod wrote:
My little falafel where are the update pics! Yalla yalla habibe. [/quote]

Still on vacation for another 6 days, so i’ll update then.

Plus your pet names are kinda freaking me out a little bit :confused:

The translation of yalla yalla habibe, is quickly quickly my love… which unless your a 5’5 brunette with dimples and a bubble butt is kinda scary.

605

Haha does it. I think my saudi friend told me this. But in my family we call everyone habibe. Like if someone comes over we greet them and say hey how are you habibe. Friends and family usually.

606

Habibi tends to mean slightly different in the various gulf dialects; it’s freely used for friends and stuff here in Kuwait (translating closer to ‘my dear’) yet Omanis would be very offended by it, translating it closer to ‘sweetheart’

607

Eat Clen Tren Hard.

Keep up the good work Marz.

608

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Eat Clen Tren Hard.

Keep up the good work Marz.[/quote]

Sometimes the truth hurts.

609

[quote]A-rod wrote:
Haha does it. I think my saudi friend told me this. But in my family we call everyone habibe. Like if someone comes over we greet them and say hey how are you habibe. Friends and family usually. [/quote]

Just messin lol.

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[quote]Grumpig Hunt wrote:
Habibi tends to mean slightly different in the various gulf dialects; it’s freely used for friends and stuff here in Kuwait (translating closer to ‘my dear’) yet Omanis would be very offended by it, translating it closer to ‘sweetheart’[/quote]

Yeah same kinda thing applies here, friends use it.

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[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Eat Clen Tren Hard.

Keep up the good work Marz.[/quote]

Sometimes the truth hurts.[/quote]

Sounds like a plan!

612

[quote]Marzouk wrote:

[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Eat Clen Tren Hard.

Keep up the good work Marz.[/quote]

Sometimes the truth hurts.[/quote]

Sounds like a plan![/quote]

From reading tren about it does sound like a godly recomp AAS.

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But seriously Marzouk you should do some Bloodwork, see were you are at right now.

614

[quote]Marzouk wrote:

[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]Marzouk wrote:
So i’m thinking in 10 days to start running 750mg of test e for 12 weeks, whats the consensus?

Along with a-dex, hcg and a nolva/clomid pct.

[/quote]

Interesting that your considering it even though at the end of your last cycle your BP was crazy high. Have you got it checked recently? Have you had blood work done since the cycle?

If you were to do a cycle think about using maybe Test Prop, while dieting. I know Diet dictates if you lose weight or not but I think it might be beneficial if you use a prop instead to cause less bloat.

Are you able to afford gH? Maybe just get some that and take while you are cutting/losing weight.

But seriously I don’t think it would be beneficial for you to run 750mg/week considering what happened last time.[/quote]

Yeah, sounds about right, think i’ll wait until i’m in a healthier place before i run another cycle. I’ll have to look into whether or not i can get test prop here or not. [/quote]

his BP was bad, but not crazy high… most likely a byproduct of being so overweight.

hgh is helpful at losing weight yes, but it decreases insulin sensitivity.

“bloat” is controlled by keeping hormone levels stable, controlling estrogen, and having a good diet

615

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Marzouk wrote:

[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]Marzouk wrote:
So i’m thinking in 10 days to start running 750mg of test e for 12 weeks, whats the consensus?

Along with a-dex, hcg and a nolva/clomid pct.

[/quote]

Interesting that your considering it even though at the end of your last cycle your BP was crazy high. Have you got it checked recently? Have you had blood work done since the cycle?

If you were to do a cycle think about using maybe Test Prop, while dieting. I know Diet dictates if you lose weight or not but I think it might be beneficial if you use a prop instead to cause less bloat.

Are you able to afford gH? Maybe just get some that and take while you are cutting/losing weight.

But seriously I don’t think it would be beneficial for you to run 750mg/week considering what happened last time.[/quote]

Yeah, sounds about right, think i’ll wait until i’m in a healthier place before i run another cycle. I’ll have to look into whether or not i can get test prop here or not. [/quote]

his BP was bad, but not crazy high… most likely a byproduct of being so overweight.

hgh is helpful at losing weight yes, but it decreases insulin sensitivity.

“bloat” is controlled by keeping hormone levels stable, controlling estrogen, and having a good diet[/quote]

Out of curiosity Mr.Walkway, what is the benefit then of doing Test prop when Enth/cyp require EO3D injection? Like why do people even bother with the EOD injects of Prop?

From researching it sounds like people prefer prop because it causes “less” bloat and people get “leaner” gains on it.

But if that is just broscience why even take prop?

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[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Marzouk wrote:

[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]Marzouk wrote:
So i’m thinking in 10 days to start running 750mg of test e for 12 weeks, whats the consensus?

Along with a-dex, hcg and a nolva/clomid pct.

[/quote]

Interesting that your considering it even though at the end of your last cycle your BP was crazy high. Have you got it checked recently? Have you had blood work done since the cycle?

If you were to do a cycle think about using maybe Test Prop, while dieting. I know Diet dictates if you lose weight or not but I think it might be beneficial if you use a prop instead to cause less bloat.

Are you able to afford gH? Maybe just get some that and take while you are cutting/losing weight.

But seriously I don’t think it would be beneficial for you to run 750mg/week considering what happened last time.[/quote]

Yeah, sounds about right, think i’ll wait until i’m in a healthier place before i run another cycle. I’ll have to look into whether or not i can get test prop here or not. [/quote]

his BP was bad, but not crazy high… most likely a byproduct of being so overweight.

hgh is helpful at losing weight yes, but it decreases insulin sensitivity.

“bloat” is controlled by keeping hormone levels stable, controlling estrogen, and having a good diet[/quote]

Out of curiosity Mr.Walkway, what is the benefit then of doing Test prop when Enth/cyp require EO3D injection? Like why do people even bother with the EOD injects of Prop?

From researching it sounds like people prefer prop because it causes “less” bloat and people get “leaner” gains on it.

But if that is just broscience why even take prop?

[/quote]

That is broscience, you’re right. People like prop because it kicks in faster and clears out faster. Don’t need to wait weeks to reach peak levels or 2 weeks to start your PCT. Also if you’re going to try something like tren ace, it is more conveinent to match ester lengths in many cases.

Also prop is slightly stronger (provides more test) mg for mg since it has more test (due to the prop ester weighing less)

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[quote]complete_fraud wrote:

[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Marzouk wrote:

[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]Marzouk wrote:
So i’m thinking in 10 days to start running 750mg of test e for 12 weeks, whats the consensus?

Along with a-dex, hcg and a nolva/clomid pct.

[/quote]

Interesting that your considering it even though at the end of your last cycle your BP was crazy high. Have you got it checked recently? Have you had blood work done since the cycle?

If you were to do a cycle think about using maybe Test Prop, while dieting. I know Diet dictates if you lose weight or not but I think it might be beneficial if you use a prop instead to cause less bloat.

Are you able to afford gH? Maybe just get some that and take while you are cutting/losing weight.

But seriously I don’t think it would be beneficial for you to run 750mg/week considering what happened last time.[/quote]

Yeah, sounds about right, think i’ll wait until i’m in a healthier place before i run another cycle. I’ll have to look into whether or not i can get test prop here or not. [/quote]

his BP was bad, but not crazy high… most likely a byproduct of being so overweight.

hgh is helpful at losing weight yes, but it decreases insulin sensitivity.

“bloat” is controlled by keeping hormone levels stable, controlling estrogen, and having a good diet[/quote]

Out of curiosity Mr.Walkway, what is the benefit then of doing Test prop when Enth/cyp require EO3D injection? Like why do people even bother with the EOD injects of Prop?

From researching it sounds like people prefer prop because it causes “less” bloat and people get “leaner” gains on it.

But if that is just broscience why even take prop?

[/quote]

That is broscience, you’re right. People like prop because it kicks in faster and clears out faster. Don’t need to wait weeks to reach peak levels or 2 weeks to start your PCT. Also if you’re going to try something like tren ace, it is more conveinent to match ester lengths in many cases.

Also prop is slightly stronger (provides more test) mg for mg since it has more test (due to the prop ester weighing less)
[/quote]

this

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Replied in chobbs thread, same thing here
Thursday pm slight chance but more.likely saturday

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Marzouk, I’ve been following your thread and watching without posting. You’re making good progress. From someone who has done similar and is currently “finishing out” on the last trek, its going to get tougher before it gets easier.

Zraw will help get you there but its all about mental toughness, dedication, and time. Thats it.

This is my personal opinion so take it for what its worth, and I’m sure a few folks will get their backs up over it. Don’t touch the AAS while dieting. Do it “honestly”. Don’t give yourself a crutch. You can do it just as successfully all by yourself, learn what you can and can’t do while clean, and not have to worry about any side effects. Hell, you’ll actually get to watch your “health indicators” improve instead of seeing changes but still possibly feeling like crap.

This process is about getting in shape, getting healthy, and learning how to do it. Man up and stay clean, if you want to cycle, wait until you’ve finished your cut. My two pence on the subject, its up to you how you feel on the subject.

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[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
Marzouk, I’ve been following your thread and watching without posting. You’re making good progress. From someone who has done similar and is currently “finishing out” on the last trek, its going to get tougher before it gets easier.

Zraw will help get you there but its all about mental toughness, dedication, and time. Thats it.

This is my personal opinion so take it for what its worth, and I’m sure a few folks will get their backs up over it. Don’t touch the AAS while dieting. Do it “honestly”. Don’t give yourself a crutch. You can do it just as successfully all by yourself, learn what you can and can’t do while clean, and not have to worry about any side effects. Hell, you’ll actually get to watch your “health indicators” improve instead of seeing changes but still possibly feeling like crap.

This process is about getting in shape, getting healthy, and learning how to do it. Man up and stay clean, if you want to cycle, wait until you’ve finished your cut. My two pence on the subject, its up to you how you feel on the subject.[/quote]

courage!

good on ya for speaking your mind mate.

differing opinions is why forums are the best place to learn stuff like this.

great stuff.