I understand they shot the corgi in the paw, am I wrong?
it was shot in the paw accidentally the article said… I wouldnt want to be bit by that dog would you?
.greg.
Although this video pisses me off, as someone stated earlier, how much did the SWAT team know? What was their intel? Maybe they were told of copious amounts of “drugs” and possible weapons on site. But, I wouldn’t be surprised if the old lady next door called the cops telling them she smelled that dirty drug being smoked next door.
Without the whole story I can’t judge the action, but shit like this is becoming a bit too common and it needs to stop. Fear breeds it, and the only thing people of the world should fear are the few that want to control.
On that note, I think some (a lot) of people need to research into why marijuana became illegal. Pretty suspect reasons if you ask me. This is a plant, that grows naturally all over the world. Been used for thousands of different reasons for centuries. One of the most useful plants there is. From recreational use all the way to textiles, and pretty much anything you can think of in between. Ignorance is not bliss.
[quote]gregron wrote:
Also for everyone saying how the police are so messed up and that ther raid is the real child endangerment why not just look at it simply:
The guy had illegal narcotics in his house (ok so it was only marijuana and a very little amount but there WERE drugs)
Without the presence of these drugs there would never have been a raid and none of this would have happened. Case closed right there.
.greg.[/quote]
Columbia PD stormed into a party my friend was at, picked him out at random, cuffed him and threw him back in the back of a squad car. They left him in the back of that car until another of our friends got up the nuts to sneak up to the station and open the door for him. Later sawed off the cuffs with a hacksaw.
Columbia PD beat up a guy that can only be described as the biggest pussy in the world. Hippie, artist, chubby etc. I can’t remember why, maybe possession of a few grams of weed. Does it really matter?
Some of these guys are thugs.
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
[quote]MangoMan305 wrote:
Don’t have illegal drugs in your home. I know I sure don’t.[/quote]
That’s the message you took home from this story? Have you ever went over the speed limit in your life? I bet you have even though you know you’re breaking the law. But you’re OK with it because you are willing to take that risk because you’re also willing to take the punishment that comes with getting caught. A speeding ticket and maybe points on your license.
I have had small amounts of marijuana in my apartment when I was younger. Enough for a couple joints. I know it’s illegal but I’m willing to accept the punishment of a $1000 fine and possible 6 months loss of my driver’s license. Just like you with your speeding, I make my decision based on the punishment if I get caught. I do NOT expect cops to bust in my house and starting firing shots at a caged house-pet then trying to take my family away. Over a fuckin misdemeanor amount of marijuana. Incredible.[/quote]
In the LOVELY state of Virginia, yesterday was “Move Over” day. A day where police will put you in JAIL FOR 12 MONTHS or FINE YOU $2500 for… get this: DRIVING IN AN HOV LANE.
And some people don’t think there is a problem…
A YEAR in jail for driving in the wrong fucking lane at the wrong time of the day? $2500 fine?
WHAT. THE. FUCK?
But it’s fine. Those pi… I mean “cops” are JUST DOING THERE JOB. They said that in Germany during the 1930’s.
Did you actually read the article you posted Chicken?
"Virginia police will also be enforcing the state’s new “Move Over” law, which requires drivers to change lanes or slow down when passing emergency personnel stopped on the road. People caught violating the law can face fines as high as $2,500 and face up to 12 months in jail. "
- No one will get a full 12 months for this.
- If you can’t slow down or get out of the way of emergency personnell you should have your license permanently revoked and fined.
The wrong lane gets you a $90-$1000 fine depending on which state side you are on. Either way it has a lot more to do with your lawmakers then your law enforcers…
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
No, I got it, but my edit came to late :-([/quote]
It’s alright. You could probably tell from my other posts where I stand on the matter anyhow. I’m against cops busting down doors and firing rounds into a taxpayers home and shooting their family pets over a couple joints of marijuana. [/quote]
What I do not get is that people sctually stand for this.
This is definitely not normal for most European countries.
Yes, it is illegal, but nobody gives a shit if you smoke weed or not.
This is not about the drug itself, this raids are about defying the state.
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so because “no one gives a shit if you smoke weed” that makes it ok? (someone somewhere obvisouly gives a shit cause its illegal and they raided the house be cause of it)
how is this not about the drug itself? They did a house raid on a house that was known to have drugs in it and at the time of the raid only happened to have trace amounts of marijuana?
Again I’m not saying what the police did in this instance was the 100% correct way to handle things but without the presence of drugs (albeit weed) this situation wouldn’t have happened.
.greg.
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So if police know you have a gram of weed they can dial up the swat team guns blazing? Thats insane.
There were other ways they could have gone about this.
[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Libs?
Yes, there are sheep here.[/quote]
But, clearly there are sheep on both sides of the fence.
It seems like a full investigation of the events are in order, but some of the people on here have really played out a whole scenario of what went down based on hearsay and have turned this into an “all-cops-are-horrible-people” and “We’re all just pawns of the Man” conspiracy situation.
While I’m not condoning the police action here, I take the stance that there has to be more to the background of the individual that led to the raid. This is not a case where they stormed #16 when the warrant was for #19 but the 6 had fallen over. The fact that there was little pot in the house doesn’t mean that there was no probable cause to issue the warrant.
Maybe there was, maybe there wasn’t, but you likely won’t get the facts from a biased web-site that caters to “airing the truth about police injustice”, just as you won’t likely get the full facts from a police-support website.
To be sure, many police are crooked and many have prejudices that lead them to take wrong actions against what turn out to be innocent people. But, I have served in the Reserves with many cops who were stand-up individuals who went through a lot of crap on a regular basis and never let it affect their performance. There were also a few lawyers in the unit and the debates were pretty interesting to say the least about stories like this one. In many cases, these cops had inside information material to the case about what went down that the press conveniently left out.
DB[/quote]
Fine. Fair point. How about a day-time raid when the kid is at school? Presumably they staked out the house and if they didn’t they should have.
[quote]Eli B wrote:
[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Libs?
Yes, there are sheep here.[/quote]
But, clearly there are sheep on both sides of the fence.
It seems like a full investigation of the events are in order, but some of the people on here have really played out a whole scenario of what went down based on hearsay and have turned this into an “all-cops-are-horrible-people” and “We’re all just pawns of the Man” conspiracy situation.
While I’m not condoning the police action here, I take the stance that there has to be more to the background of the individual that led to the raid. This is not a case where they stormed #16 when the warrant was for #19 but the 6 had fallen over. The fact that there was little pot in the house doesn’t mean that there was no probable cause to issue the warrant.
Maybe there was, maybe there wasn’t, but you likely won’t get the facts from a biased web-site that caters to “airing the truth about police injustice”, just as you won’t likely get the full facts from a police-support website.
To be sure, many police are crooked and many have prejudices that lead them to take wrong actions against what turn out to be innocent people. But, I have served in the Reserves with many cops who were stand-up individuals who went through a lot of crap on a regular basis and never let it affect their performance. There were also a few lawyers in the unit and the debates were pretty interesting to say the least about stories like this one. In many cases, these cops had inside information material to the case about what went down that the press conveniently left out.
DB[/quote]
Fine. Fair point. How about a day-time raid when the kid is at school? Presumably they staked out the house and if they didn’t they should have.
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Those are fair points as well, particularly since they waited 8 days after the warrant was issued to conduct the raid.
DB
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]on edge wrote:
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Just wait till they start raiding the homes of people “known” to have steroids or other “questionable” supplements.
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Does anyone know how it went down for Bushy?[/quote]
did BBB get raided? if so that really sucks and I hope he’s not in trouble.
.greg.[/quote]
Woah I should have been more careful not to be starting any kind of rumor. This was some time ago, like two years, and I only know he had some kind of run in with the law. It might have been nothing, I don’t know how it went down or was resolved.
[quote]gregron wrote:
it was shot in the paw accidentally the article said… I wouldnt want to be bit by that dog would you?
.greg.[/quote]
Just like the kid could have been. That’s not endangering the child though. Children can be corrupted and ruined by drug paraphernalia but dammit they are bullet-proof. There’s no way that you can say that the home owner is more at fault here than the police department is.
SICKENING. Absolutely fucking sickening. I hope that family can sue the cops for MILLIONS.
They came for the pot-smokers and I didn’t care because I didn’t smoke pot.
Then they came for the porno viewers but I didn’t care because I didn’t view porn.
Then they came for the caffeine-ephedrine-aspirin stackers and I didn’t care because I didn’t stack.
Then they came for the steroid users . . .
Anyone here who’s ever stuck a needle of AAS into himself and agrees with these Nazi-like tactics should go eat shit and die.
Wake up you dumb fucking sheeple. Weed is a victimless crime. So is prostitution. And gambling, etc. And I’m not anti-cop. I feel bad that they have to enforce mindless laws.
Here’s some more info found on the net:
In the end the victim pleaded guilty to the misdemeanor charge of possession of drug paraphernalia in exchange for dropping the charges of misdemeanor marijuana possession and second-degree child endangerment. Yes, you read that right: the police burst into this man’s home, shooting weapons in his home and killing his dog with his seven-year-old sleeping in the next room and he’s the one who was endangering his child by smoking pot in his own home.
Weed is a gateway drug at the moment and socially addictive , maybe when its legalized it wont lead to other drugs but anything that numbs a persons inhibition to the point that they hang out with shitheads and use what they are using… is a gateway drug. I know this from personal experience and the experience of many many people around me, who should have stayed away from it to begin with.
But what happened in this video should never have happened, the cops are in the wrong . One of them should have screamed, f- yo dogs **** f-yo couch, celebration, uniiiity, darkness, black magic, mother %%^^^**(
[quote]Rocky101 wrote:
[quote]ruglayer09052000 wrote:
Sorry if the libs here don’t like this comment, and they won’t, either. And, for those of you who say ‘It’s just weed, dude.’ Do some actual investigation into that comment. More times than not, especially in today’s world, it is a gateway to other, more harmful substances.[/quote]
You sound like a brainwashed idiot. The gateway theory has been debunked since the 70’s and you still believe it. Weed is a gateway to the black market since it is the most easily available. Legalize it and that gateway is shut. And since when do the cops come breaking in doors for people who have speeding ticket or even minor domestic assaults those are against the law too, but they bust down doors and shoot dogs for a fucking plant.
Pull your head out of your ass, pack your shit and move to North Korea, China or the Middle East, if you side with cops on this then these places would be more up your alley, fascist.[/quote]
Well said Rocky. There are some really, REALLY stupid non-thinking motherfuckers here who need to exercise their brain instead of their pecs.
OH MY GOD - I smelled a bag of pot once and I killed my family ! ! ! ! ! !
[quote]coolp3ople wrote:
Weed is a gateway drug at the moment and socially addictive , maybe when its legalized it wont lead to other drugs but anything that numbs a persons inhibition to the point that they hang out with shitheads and use what they are using… is a gateway drug. I know this from personal experience and the experience of many many people around me, who should have stayed away from it to begin with.
But what happened in this video should never have happened, the cops are in the wrong . One of them should have screamed, f- yo dogs **** f-yo couch, celebration, uniiiity, darkness, black magic, mother %%^^^**(
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Fuck off troll.
[quote]coolp3ople wrote:
SOCIALLY ADDICTIVE , numbs a persons inhibition to the point that they hang out with shitheads and use what they are using…
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This sounds like alcohol to a T.
Why is it when someone wants to get high they either have to be a drunk or go doctor shopping?
[quote]Eli B wrote:
[quote]coolp3ople wrote:
Weed is a gateway drug at the moment and socially addictive , maybe when its legalized it wont lead to other drugs but anything that numbs a persons inhibition to the point that they hang out with shitheads and use what they are using… is a gateway drug. I know this from personal experience and the experience of many many people around me, who should have stayed away from it to begin with.
But what happened in this video should never have happened, the cops are in the wrong . One of them should have screamed, f- yo dogs **** f-yo couch, celebration, uniiiity, darkness, black magic, mother %%^^^**(
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Fuck off troll.[/quote]
sorry did you not like what you read? 
poor baby
[quote]RenegadeDragon wrote:
There definately seems to be alot of the sheep mentality amongst the "all cops are pigs crowd here.
I didn’t do a lot of research into this case because I know how much, or little of the information will actually be released. There are a lot of questions that need to be asked. Is this guy actually a drug dealer, does he ussually have more product and he just happened to move it? Does this guy have a criminal history? A violent history? A history of having weapons? The fact that he has a wife, kids and a foofy dog don’t change the status of those questions. [/quote]
What changes the status of those questions is the fact that nothing but personal use amounts were found on the property. Regardless of whatever intel they may have had, you do realize that this is not the first time cops have raided the house of people who were innocent of whatever charges they brought up to get the warrant.
I mean, unless you are for all Americans randomly being raided just in case someone may be smoking a joint somewhere, this just screams bad police work. Even the police chief understands this which is why he is stating that they held the warrant too long.
That brings many questions into play…like why raid this guy when his kid is home with guns blazing???
Sheep mentality would be excusing this based on the fact that they are cops. Sheep mentality is not questioning any laws or even bringing them to public attention so they can be voted on and simply falling in line.
The history of why marijuana is illegal to begin with is steeped in racist non-sense by a scared white majority…afraid that white women would smoke weed and listen to evil jazz music or maybe even something worse…like marry a Mexican guy.
Yes, the above is actually true. Fear is what started this…and fear seems to be what is keeping people in line.
I am glad to see you agree with these tactics. That says a lot.
[quote]coolp3ople wrote:
Weed is a gateway drug at the moment and socially addictive , maybe when its legalized it wont lead to other drugs but anything that numbs a persons inhibition to the point that they hang out with shitheads and use what they are using… is a gateway drug. I know this from personal experience and the experience of many many people around me, who should have stayed away from it to begin with.
But what happened in this video should never have happened, the cops are in the wrong . One of them should have screamed, f- yo dogs **** f-yo couch, celebration, uniiiity, darkness, black magic, mother %%^^^**(
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I love these fucking morons. MOO MOO… fucking cattle