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Isn’t it funny that in the attempt to force ethics and strict righteousness, the method for doing this involves half truths and exaggeration? If the fight is fought by hypocrites, is there really a war in the first place?

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Alcohol is a leading cause of death among youth, particularly teenagers. It contributes substantially to adolescent motor vehicle crashes, other traumatic injuries, suicide, date rape, and family and school problems.(1)

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Every day, on average, 11,318 American youth (12 to 20 years of age) try alcohol for the first time, compared with 6,488 for marijuana; 2,786 for cocaine; and 386 for heroin.(2)

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Alcohol is by far the most used and abused drug among America�??s teenagers. According to a national survey, nearly one third (31.5%) of all high school students reported hazardous drinking (5+ drinks in one setting) during the 30 days preceding the survey.(3)

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More than 1,700 college students in the U.S. are killed each year (about 4.65 a day) as a result of alcohol-related injuries.(4)

I believe it is time for the illegalization of alcohol. I would push for this to be our PRIMARY concern in this country when it comes to “saving the children”, however, it would seem that there is a much larger issue at hand and our children are in peril! According to The National Institute on Drug Abuse, in a 2002 survey, youth were asked how easy it was for school aged children to obtain steroids. 22% of eighth graders, 33.2% of tenth graders, and 46.1% of twelfth graders reported that steroids were “fairly easy” or “very easy” to obtain.

Well, I don’t know about you, but I take what children say in surveys to be the absolute truth…because kids are very reliable sources of scientific information for which we can make direct laws in relation to. I recently told my doctor that I would no longer be seeing him because he is over the age of 40…and therefore, less reliable than a 12 year old.

From http://www.childtrendsdatabank.org/indicators/92SteroidUse.cfm , Among twelfth graders, steroid use in past years increased from 1.1% in 1992 to 2.1% in 2003.

Did you read that?! A WHOPPING 2.1%!!! The children are dying!

The Newspaper, the Oakland Tribune (Mar 28, 2006), asked “Have we thrown out ethics and honesty in baseball? President Hoover once said, “Next to religion, baseball has furnished a greater impact on American life than any other institution.” If President Hoover’s statement is correct, what impact is the taking of steroids and performance-enhancing drugs having on our youth today?”

To this I can only respond that I relied on professional athletes to make honesty and ethics their main priority. Is it too much to ask that a man making millions of dollars not have unprotected sex with anyone but whoever he may be married to?! Is it too large of a request to expect for them to not abuse alcohol, gamble or generally act in ways that the average Buddhist Monk would not?

I say we tell children today that any substance that would not appear in the medicine cabinet at their local church is deadly, evil and downright socially unacceptable. It is time we put a stop to all of the lies!

References:
(1) Ninth Special Report to the U.S. Congress on Alcohol and Health from the Secretary of Health and Human Services. Rockville, MD: USDHHS, Public Health Service, Alcohol, Drug Abuse and Mental Health Administration, National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, Jun 1997. Kann, L., Warren, C., et al., Youth Risk Behavior Surveillance�??United States, 1995. Morb Mortal Wkly Rep CDC Surveillance Summaries, 45(4):1-84, Sep 27, 1996.

(2) Data reported by Jill Schmidtlein, White House Office of National Drug Control Policy, Drug Policy Information Clearinghouse, Feb 13, 1998. The data were extrapolated from Preliminary Estimates from the 1996 National Household Survey on Drug Abuse, Rockville, MD: Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA), 1997.

(3) Youth Risk Behavior Surveillance �?? United States, 1999. June 09, 2000 / 49(SS05);1-96 Kann, L., S. Kinchen, B. Williams, J. Ross, R. Lowry, J. Grunbaum, and L. Kolbe., Youth Risk Behavior Surveillance --- United States, 1999 accessed June 19, 2001.

(4) Magnitude of Alcohol-Related Mortality and Morbidity Among U.S. College Students Ages 18-24: Changes from 1998 to 2001; Ralph Hingson, Timothy Heeren, Michael Winter, Henry Wechsler; Annual Review of Public Health, April 2005, Vol. 26: pp. 259-279.

back with a vengeance, eh?

[quote]kelleyb wrote:
back with a vengeance, eh? [/quote]

Word.

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[quote]Chewie wrote:
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What happened to your old avatar? It was one of the coolest on T-Nation.

I completely disagree, and had a big thing typed out, but knowing you and your previous posts, your mind won’t be swayed, you’re already sure you’re correct, so I won’t start an argument.

Found yourself, eh?

Why don’t we ban adolescent motor vehicle crashes, other traumatic injuries, suicide, date rape, and family and school problems?

Simple solution: Outlaw children.

X, welcome back man.

Ummm…Im pretty sure Prof’s statement that alcohol should be banned was not a serious statement, but rather part of an illustration of the fact that steroids are illegal while much more dangerous substances are not.

Good to have you back big guy.

wow, what an absolute load of shit.

American tried prohibition, and I can assure you if it does it again, some sort of civil war will occur, or a radical government will overthrow our central power.

Next, if people are going to use substances and do stupid shit and die, then good riddance, it’s called natural selection, let it take its fucking course. I just heard that some kid I went to high school with died from a cocaine overdose not too long ago. Who cares? If you’re dumb enough to put shit like that into your body then you deserve to die.

Finally, the problem isn’t alcohol, the problem is parents and drinking ages. Other countries do not have drinking ages, and if they do, they are set at young ages and not enforced. Meaning that these children do not go wild with the shit because they are introduced to it at a young age. That is not the case here.

My solution: Outlaw statistics.

And generalizations, stereotypes, and all social science of any kind.

Only the strong survive.

Welcome back Professor X.

He comes out swingin’.

No homo.

Yeah, I remember back in junior high a few of my friends and I decided we were going to get drunk. We raided my parents bar and grabbed a bottle of tequila, 6 beers, and vermouth(we didn’t know)and proceed to find out very quickly the alcohol is pretty fucking nasty.

Everyone spit out their shot of tequila and vermouth(lol)and drank about half a beer. We decided to play videogames all night instead, and had a damn good time. Of course we told everyone at school on Monday that we got totally fhitsaced and it was awesome.

Are you really for making alcohol illegal?

[quote]Jacked Diesel wrote:
wow, what an absolute load of shit.

American tried prohibition, and I can assure you if it does it again, some sort of civil war will occur, or a radical government will overthrow our central power.
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Dude, for a long time I’ve been convinced that this online persona of yours was created simply to get a rise out of people on this site (which is why I won’t be taking your entire post seriously).

But, in the event that I am wrong in that assumption, I think that, in your (typical) attempt to be argumentative, you missed the point of the original post.

Either ban alcohol or legalize the rest of them evil drugs.

We have a war on drugs thread in the politics section (I think?)and it’s interesting to see some people there holding frenetically to the “it could be much worse” mantra.

Personally I find the statistics unbearable, as we have a very similar situation in Germany.
It IS the supreme hypocrisy of our society.

Edit: Oh and hey, very cool to have you back!

I gave my son a bottle of 1800 and some d-bol for Christmas.

[quote]Squiggles wrote:
I completely disagree[/quote]

With what specifically?

Argument? This is a discussion forum. I believe “debate” happens here…in between the posted photos of naked ass and the repetitious questions about creatine. You will have to do a better job of actually stating a position.