the more gregron talks the more retarded he sounds.
edit: I didn’t even read the last page of the thread before I posted this. sigh
[quote]StevenF wrote:
the more gregron talks the more retarded he sounds. [/quote]
hahaha dont throw out insults cause you cant have a grown up conversation without name calling. whats your point in this thread? Dont be mad cause you cant successfully debate my posts.
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oh you’re point was that the smaller dog who was shot in the paw accidentally wasnt dangerous?
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One lesson I’ve learned over the years is that you can’t debate with retards.
One lesson I’ve learned over the years is that you can’t debate with retards.
[quote]StevenF wrote:
One lesson I’ve learned over the years is that you can’t debate with retards. [/quote]
well you cant debate me because you don’t have valid points otherwise you would have stated them… instead you call names like this is middle school.
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[quote]gregron wrote:
Theres so many things in your post that need to be addressed I don’t even know where to start.
The police didnt “straight up murder an old lady.” She shot 3 police officers who had a warrant from a judge and were serching her house.
What were you arrested for when you were 16? The fact that you refused to let the cop search your vehicle is suspicious right there. With nothing to hide why would you refuse? But then you make a big deal about it and guess what? The cop finds “drug paraphernalia.” Its not like you were hasstled by this cop and then he found nothing in your car.
As dumb as you think the law is its still a law. I would also say that in 99% of cases it IS SMART to follow laws… What laws arent smart to follow?
I also feel sorry for the guy and his family cause thats a shitty situation but its a shitty situation that he put himself into by breaking the law.
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Are you attempting to sound completely ignorant of the law in this post or was this a side effect of head in ass syndrome?
[quote]Deorum wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
Theres so many things in your post that need to be addressed I don’t even know where to start.
The police didnt “straight up murder an old lady.” She shot 3 police officers who had a warrant from a judge and were serching her house.
What were you arrested for when you were 16? The fact that you refused to let the cop search your vehicle is suspicious right there. With nothing to hide why would you refuse? But then you make a big deal about it and guess what? The cop finds “drug paraphernalia.” Its not like you were hasstled by this cop and then he found nothing in your car.
As dumb as you think the law is its still a law. I would also say that in 99% of cases it IS SMART to follow laws… What laws arent smart to follow?
I also feel sorry for the guy and his family cause thats a shitty situation but its a shitty situation that he put himself into by breaking the law.
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Are you attempting to sound completely ignorant of the law in this post or was this a side effect of head in ass syndrome?
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What law are you talking about?
[quote]gregron wrote:
as much as people dislike cops or think that weed isn’t a bad drug you cant argue the fact that if this house NEVER had ANY drugs in it what so ever this whole situation would have been avoided.
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Have you not read the rest of the thread? Multiple people have already put this argument to rest by stating the fact that it is very common for the police to break into or arrest people who have done absolutely nothing.
And even if this wasn’t the case. Even if the cops NEVER made any mistakes, you must realize that we have levels of crime for a damn reason. I’d like to see your reaction if you went 7mph over down the highway so a cop started shooting at your car. It wouldn’t make sense, and the crime wouldn’t equal the punishment. How is this so hard to understand?
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]Deorum wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
Theres so many things in your post that need to be addressed I don’t even know where to start.
The police didnt “straight up murder an old lady.” She shot 3 police officers who had a warrant from a judge and were serching her house.
What were you arrested for when you were 16? The fact that you refused to let the cop search your vehicle is suspicious right there. With nothing to hide why would you refuse? But then you make a big deal about it and guess what? The cop finds “drug paraphernalia.” Its not like you were hasstled by this cop and then he found nothing in your car.
As dumb as you think the law is its still a law. I would also say that in 99% of cases it IS SMART to follow laws… What laws arent smart to follow?
I also feel sorry for the guy and his family cause thats a shitty situation but its a shitty situation that he put himself into by breaking the law.
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Are you attempting to sound completely ignorant of the law in this post or was this a side effect of head in ass syndrome?
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What law are you talking about?
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the 4th amendment?
[quote]Mettahl wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
as much as people dislike cops or think that weed isn’t a bad drug you cant argue the fact that if this house NEVER had ANY drugs in it what so ever this whole situation would have been avoided.
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Have you not read the rest of the thread? Multiple people have already put this argument to rest by stating the fact that it is very common for the police to break into or arrest people who have done absolutely nothing.
And even if this wasn’t the case. Even if the cops NEVER made any mistakes, you must realize that we have levels of crime for a damn reason. I’d like to see your reaction if you went 7mph over down the highway so a cop started shooting at your car. It wouldn’t make sense, and the crime wouldn’t equal the punishment. How is this so hard to understand?[/quote]
Cuz drugs r bad and if u hav drugs in ur house ur a bad person who deserves wat u git.
[quote]Mettahl wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
as much as people dislike cops or think that weed isn’t a bad drug you cant argue the fact that if this house NEVER had ANY drugs in it what so ever this whole situation would have been avoided.
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Have you not read the rest of the thread? Multiple people have already put this argument to rest by stating the fact that it is very common for the police to break into or arrest people who have done absolutely nothing.
And even if this wasn’t the case. Even if the cops NEVER made any mistakes, you must realize that we have levels of crime for a damn reason. I’d like to see your reaction if you went 7mph over down the highway so a cop started shooting at your car. It wouldn’t make sense, and the crime wouldn’t equal the punishment. How is this so hard to understand?[/quote]
When was the argument put to rest? I read all of the articles posted and not one of the articles were about someone who had done absolutely nothing wrong.
I do realize there are different levels of crimes.
When did we start talking about speeding and being shot at for it? Has that ever happened before? Thats such a blown out of proportion example that it is completely invalid.
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[quote]Soulja874 wrote:
[quote]Mettahl wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
as much as people dislike cops or think that weed isn’t a bad drug you cant argue the fact that if this house NEVER had ANY drugs in it what so ever this whole situation would have been avoided.
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Have you not read the rest of the thread? Multiple people have already put this argument to rest by stating the fact that it is very common for the police to break into or arrest people who have done absolutely nothing.
And even if this wasn’t the case. Even if the cops NEVER made any mistakes, you must realize that we have levels of crime for a damn reason. I’d like to see your reaction if you went 7mph over down the highway so a cop started shooting at your car. It wouldn’t make sense, and the crime wouldn’t equal the punishment. How is this so hard to understand?[/quote]
Cuz drugs r bad and if u hav drugs in ur house ur a bad person who deserves wat u git.[/quote]
I dont know if you’re being sarcastic or not but as I said before you don’t necessarily get what you deserve but if you have illegal narcotics in your house you know you’re breaking the law and how can you be mad if you get busted for it?
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[quote]StevenF wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]Deorum wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
Theres so many things in your post that need to be addressed I don’t even know where to start.
The police didnt “straight up murder an old lady.” She shot 3 police officers who had a warrant from a judge and were serching her house.
What were you arrested for when you were 16? The fact that you refused to let the cop search your vehicle is suspicious right there. With nothing to hide why would you refuse? But then you make a big deal about it and guess what? The cop finds “drug paraphernalia.” Its not like you were hasstled by this cop and then he found nothing in your car.
As dumb as you think the law is its still a law. I would also say that in 99% of cases it IS SMART to follow laws… What laws arent smart to follow?
I also feel sorry for the guy and his family cause thats a shitty situation but its a shitty situation that he put himself into by breaking the law.
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Are you attempting to sound completely ignorant of the law in this post or was this a side effect of head in ass syndrome?
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What law are you talking about?
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the 4th amendment?[/quote]
Well…as much as I agree with you, they received a search warrant from a judge…so it must not have been the most unreasonable thing at the time.
It’s funny to see people call eachother names as if to somehow discredit them, or to have people make bizzarely disproportionate scenarios for the sake of “comparison” as if to somehow make a logical point.
Keep it up guys, im in for the night
[quote]KAS wrote:
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
[quote]MangoMan305 wrote:
Don’t have illegal drugs in your home. I know I sure don’t.[/quote]
That’s the message you took home from this story? Have you ever went over the speed limit in your life? I bet you have even though you know you’re breaking the law. But you’re OK with it because you are willing to take that risk because you’re also willing to take the punishment that comes with getting caught. A speeding ticket and maybe points on your license.
I have had small amounts of marijuana in my apartment when I was younger. Enough for a couple joints. I know it’s illegal but I’m willing to accept the punishment of a $1000 fine and possible 6 months loss of my driver’s license. Just like you with your speeding, I make my decision based on the punishment if I get caught. I do NOT expect cops to bust in my house and starting firing shots at a caged house-pet then trying to take my family away. Over a fuckin misdemeanor amount of marijuana. Incredible.[/quote]
You don’t get to choose the consequences of breaking the law. You may think you’re only going to get a fine, but thats not up to you. The cops don’t know how much weed you have in your house and may well kick your door in.
If you don’t want to risk the consequences don’t break the law.[/quote]
Yeah, idiot, guess what? We have a PENAL CODE for that. Have you ever heard that term? It’s this huge book of crimes and their punishments. It’s pretty nifty, actually.
There’s a reason that we have predeclared punishments for every infraction of the law. That’s so bullshit like this doesn’t happen. Also, I like how you completely ignore the fact that they’ve not only gone outside of the preset penal category for this type of crime, but have done so by multiple levels, and in doing so put everyone in the house at risk. The consequences of something are already laid out, and are meant to be followed. If you start allowing the rules to be bent just a little bit, then it will only get worse over time. One decade they’re killing your dogs and getting away with it, the next decade they’re able to “accidentally” shoot you with no consequences, simply because they thought they were going to be in a dangerous situation.
[quote]Standard Donkey wrote:
Well…as much as I agree with you, they received a search warrant from a judge…so it must not have been the most unreasonable thing at the time.
It’s funny to see people call eachother names as if to somehow discredit them, or to have people make bizzarely disproportionate scenarios as if to somehow make a logical point.
Keep it up guys, im in for the night[/quote]
^This. Great post. Especially the part about name calling and disproportionate scenarios… that sort of thing is running rampant in here.
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[quote]KAS wrote:
[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
[quote]KAS wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
This action was way over the top. I am surprised (well, not really) that so many think this action is justified because they found some weed.
This is also why marijuana will meet much opposition when it comes to legalization…because look at how many people’s jobs depend on making sure that the stigma remains even though most scientific research is showing more benefit than harm from marijuana with some research actually pointing to possible cancer treatment.
We live in a country filled with sheep and leaders whose power relies on making sure those sheep never start asking questions.[/quote]
You’re being very selective in the research you choose to believe. Marijuanan has been shown (especially in teenagers) to trigger schizophrenia.
Everyone who breaks the law feels entitled to do so and will try and justify their actions.
For example, paedophiles think they should be allowed to have sex with children and that society has unfairly stigmatized their “lifestyle”. Many of them point to the homosexual community as an example of how these stigmas can be overcome and hope to follow a similar path.
Everyone who speeds thinks they are amaizing drivers that couldn’t possibly crash.
You’re doing the same thing. Because you like to smoke weed, you’ll do whatever you can to justify your behaviour.[/quote]
Regardless of what side of the marijuana argument you’re on, these examples are just absurd.
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How so? You’re dong the EXACT same thing. Not on the same scale as a paedophile, but the thought process is the same.[/quote]
Okay that was a fucking retarded thing to say. Like I just said, there are different classes of crimes and punishments for a reason. Then again, like I kind of implied in my last post, maybe you didn’t know that. Are you still in middle school? You’ll get to that in your classes a couple years down the road.
[quote]gregron wrote:
there were other ways I agree but the fact still remains that if there were never any drugs in the house this would never have happened. The police didnt handle it the best way (like ive said before) but without drugs in the house it wouldnt have happened.
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Nonsense, they raid houses and find nothing all the time.
Remember the grannie that shot two cops? The guy who shot and killed a cop that tried to crawl in through a flap in the door?
Both are in a world of trouble for shooting a cop and they did not find one ounce of weed.
Also, there was this mayor of a small town who had his home raided and his dogs shot even though they knew, or at least could have know that people had sent a package full of weed to his adress to pick kit up from his porch when he was not home.
So no, not having any drugs in the house might still get you killed, because it is not the weed that endangers children but armed full grown men that think an all out raid is the right way to react to fucking a fucking weed dealer.
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]overstand wrote:
I can’t tell if you’re trolling or not, but if you aren’t, you are a giant fucking tool.
Police can do whatever the hell they want and then fabricate the details afterwards. Read the article the Professorx posted. They straight up murdered an old lady. By the time it came out that she had never fired her gun, the officers wounded themselves and that they had made up the informant, the whole thing had already blown over and the officers went about their business.
I was once pulled over for an expired inspection sticker. The officer checked my license and saw that I had been arrested once when I was 16 and came back to my car with a huge attitude.
I told him he couldn’t search my car (he had no reason to ask in the first place other than my record), so he called the K9. The dog alerted, whatever the fuck that means (The whole K9 thing is fucking retarded. Whether or not the dog “alerts” is completely at the discretion of his handler. It’s basically a free pass to search whatever they want.)
and they found an empty pill bottle in the back seat of my car. To this day I don’t know how it got there, probably a buddy, it was completely empty and had no label, but the officer put me in handcuffs and I spent the night in jail for drug paraphernalia. The case was later dropped entirely, but not until I had already paid for a lawyer and dropped $400 to get my car out of the impound.
The guy in the ops post was also charged with possession of paraphernalia, a class C misdemeanor in most states. Speeding is also a class C misdemeanor. So is not having a valid drivers license. Putting his family at risk? I’m not going to bother looking up actual statistics for you, but speeding kills many, many times more people each year than marijuana.
And since when is it “smart” to blindly follow laws? You do realize that this country was founded by a bunch of guys committing treason, right? I won’t even get started on what a colossal cluster fuck the “war on drugs” has become because it seems that most here are in agreement.
I can’t believe there isn’t more outrage over these sorts of things. I feel really bad for the guy and his family. [/quote]
Theres so many things in your post that need to be addressed I don’t even know where to start.
The police didnt “straight up murder an old lady.” She shot 3 police officers who had a warrant from a judge and were serching her house.
What were you arrested for when you were 16? The fact that you refused to let the cop search your vehicle is suspicious right there. With nothing to hide why would you refuse? But then you make a big deal about it and guess what? The cop finds “drug paraphernalia.” Its not like you were hasstled by this cop and then he found nothing in your car.
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You do realize that it’s our right, and a smart decision to not allow ourselves to be hassled by the police, right? Here’s a good reference to what I’m talking about:
They’re part of our Bill of Rights for a reason. These laws and rights are there for our PROTECTION from a system that naturally leans toward being corrupt if given the chance.
I don’t want to have a “dick” tone towards you, but you need to educate yourself about what happens in reality. Instances where it’s up to PEOPLE to stand up for the PEOPLE’S rights happen every single day.
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]Mettahl wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
as much as people dislike cops or think that weed isn’t a bad drug you cant argue the fact that if this house NEVER had ANY drugs in it what so ever this whole situation would have been avoided.
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…even if this wasn’t the case. Even if the cops NEVER made any mistakes, you must realize that we have levels of crime for a damn reason. I’d like to see your reaction if you went 7mph over down the highway so a cop started shooting at your car. It wouldn’t make sense, and the crime wouldn’t equal the punishment. How is this so hard to understand?[/quote]
I do realize there are different levels of crimes.
When did we start talking about speeding and being shot at for it? Has that ever happened before? Thats such a blown out of proportion example that it is completely invalid.
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Did you watch the initial video? Do you not realize that in many states, the crime that I mentioned are the same level of crime as paraphernalia? (Hint: this is the relevance that you were looking for, yet failed to find). Both instances involved gunfire in response to a low-level crime. Ding ding! I found the connection for you 
It wasn’t a disproportionate example after all, huh?