Marijuana and Lifting

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[quote]bignate wrote:
ok i like the replies so far, ive been smoking as of recently and not much 1-2 times a week more on vacations days, my main concern was lungs as far as long term use, but i was looking to get vaporizer in the near future if i find my use is continued. Chris the Great, does a regular vaporizer (not a pipe version) get rid of smoke and essentially make it basically fine for your lungs or is it just x times better than regular smoke?[/quote]

Yeah it’s just water vapor and vaporized oils like THC and other oils that give it the smell. I would say it’s way, way better for you in that you are no longer inhaling carcinogens (unless you burn it). The pipe version makes vapor that is identical to an electronic one, though in less quantity.

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[quote]Chris The Great wrote:

[quote]bignate wrote:
ok i like the replies so far, ive been smoking as of recently and not much 1-2 times a week more on vacations days, my main concern was lungs as far as long term use, but i was looking to get vaporizer in the near future if i find my use is continued. Chris the Great, does a regular vaporizer (not a pipe version) get rid of smoke and essentially make it basically fine for your lungs or is it just x times better than regular smoke?[/quote]

Yeah it’s just water vapor and vaporized oils like THC and other oils that give it the smell. I would say it’s way, way better for you in that you are no longer inhaling carcinogens (unless you burn it). The pipe version makes vapor that is identical to an electronic one, though in less quantity.[/quote]

thanks man, did you feel it gave you a less high per amount than bruning it though? Other wise im about to lay down some cash for this guy

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But of course, regardless of the method of smoking, Nothing beats Medical grade Rock hard buds the size of a mini Pine tree covered outside and inside full of Milky and Clear Tricomes :slight_smile:

THAT is some Kind Bud of the Kind bud Family.

I liked to use it to train body parts that are difficult to feel. Suddenly it’s like there is a while new Neural Network that’s activated and difficult muscles contract more selectively, get pumped easier and grow better. Ofcourse Abuse ruins any Positives.

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I’d say that you get more high per amount of weed, but otoh you can’t put much weed into it, or smoke it as quickly. It will get you high, two bowls very high, and three in a row is blazed out of your skull, for an everyday toker like me.

LOL Gregus that description made me drool! I’ve gotten glittering weed before, with so much oil that it glitters in the light and picking it up makes your fingers sticky. Spent a good deal of time just admiring it under a light after smoking some lol

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[quote]Chris The Great wrote:
I’d say that you get more high per amount of weed, but otoh you can’t put much weed into it, or smoke it as quickly. It will get you high, two bowls very high, and three in a row is blazed out of your skull, for an everyday toker like me.

LOL Gregus that description made me drool! I’ve gotten glittering weed before, with so much oil that it glitters in the light and picking it up makes your fingers sticky. Spent a good deal of time just admiring it under a light after smoking some lol[/quote]

lol i never want to break those up. i want to lacquer and mount them on a plaque, or maybe pin it to my shirt like a corsage.

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I’ve herd it “helps” people lift… But it decreases Testosterone levels as far as I am aware…

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[quote]Nick W. wrote:
I’ve herd it “helps” people lift… But it decreases Testosterone levels as far as I am aware…[/quote]

And how did you become aware of this? Because it sounds like bullshit.

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[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]Nick W. wrote:
I’ve herd it “helps” people lift… But it decreases Testosterone levels as far as I am aware…[/quote]

And how did you become aware of this? Because it sounds like bullshit.[/quote]

That’s because it is.

I blaze up once a week or so, so I never blaze during or after training so I can’t talk about that. I guess having a big box of grilled chicken or something could be great protein for when the munchies kick in after some heavy lifting.

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[quote]Nick W. wrote:
I’ve herd it “helps” people lift… But it decreases Testosterone levels as far as I am aware…[/quote]

Great.

I ll use it to drain my excess testosterone then.

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i think it has to be a certain type of person that gets that kind of effect from it. any time ive done it recently it just makes me sleepy/lazy, there is no way i want to be heavy benching.

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[quote]Nick W. wrote:
I’ve herd it “helps” people lift… But it decreases Testosterone levels as far as I am aware…[/quote]

While under the influence or when large amounts are in someone’s system yes i believe that is what it does, but I thought we determined on this site a long time ago during one of the infamous TBT/Split debates where the TBTers were using “TBT workouts release more hormones so they are better arguments” that since testosterone and hgh levels ebb and flow like the tides, immediate levels aren’t as important in the big picture unless someone has levels that are always on average much lower than normal or much higher than normal.

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I wasn’t saying if you blaze up than you have no hope in gaining because it drains like THAT… But i’ve read in several legitimate sources that THC has the ability to lower the levels of T. I’m sure its all subjective to the individual, as well as how much they smoke etc.

I persaonlly knew alot of guys who smoked alot, and still bulked up nicely. Then again, just because something decreases testosterone levels a little, doesn’t mean you will stop making gains.

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Well, I’m not sure what this whole testosterone stuff is about. However, living on a ranch for most of my life has showed me that even rough neck cowboys can wrestle cattle by day and relax with a spliff of marijuana and be fine.

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[quote]Chris The Great wrote:
I’d say that you get more high per amount of weed, but otoh you can’t put much weed into it, or smoke it as quickly. It will get you high, two bowls very high, and three in a row is blazed out of your skull, for an everyday toker like me.

LOL Gregus that description made me drool! I’ve gotten glittering weed before, with so much oil that it glitters in the light and picking it up makes your fingers sticky. Spent a good deal of time just admiring it under a light after smoking some lol[/quote]

alright thanks man gonna be on the lookout for one

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[quote]Nick W. wrote:
I wasn’t saying if you blaze up than you have no hope in gaining because it drains like THAT… But i’ve read in several legitimate sources that THC has the ability to lower the levels of T. I’m sure its all subjective to the individual, as well as how much they smoke etc.

I persaonlly knew alot of guys who smoked alot, and still bulked up nicely. Then again, just because something decreases testosterone levels a little, doesn’t mean you will stop making gains. [/quote]

I’m going to call bull on the lowering testosterone thing, not because i want to be an ass, but because i’ve done extensive reading on the subject, and i’ve looked into multiple case studies as well.

You have to be careful what you choose to believe when it comes to marijuana, it has a long history of slander by a lot of corporations: the people who hemp and cannabis affect directly.

if you want some links to legitimate sources, i can provide one. although certainly biased, these sources are backed by scientists who have a lot to lose by posting false info.

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[quote]WormwoodTheory wrote:

[quote]Nick W. wrote:
I wasn’t saying if you blaze up than you have no hope in gaining because it drains like THAT… But i’ve read in several legitimate sources that THC has the ability to lower the levels of T. I’m sure its all subjective to the individual, as well as how much they smoke etc.

I persaonlly knew alot of guys who smoked alot, and still bulked up nicely. Then again, just because something decreases testosterone levels a little, doesn’t mean you will stop making gains. [/quote]

I’m going to call bull on the lowering testosterone thing, not because i want to be an ass, but because i’ve done extensive reading on the subject, and i’ve looked into multiple case studies as well.

You have to be careful what you choose to believe when it comes to marijuana, it has a long history of slander by a lot of corporations: the people who hemp and cannabis affect directly.

if you want some links to legitimate sources, i can provide one. although certainly biased, these sources are backed by scientists who have a lot to lose by posting false info.[/quote]

Nah, I can definitly believe that man. That’s why I said “as far as I am aware”, because I know there is alot of bs on the subject. Was just contributing my 2 cents from what I had read in various articles in some magazines. One was Muscle Mag… or Muscular Development, I forget which now. And then a couple others.

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Marijuana is a conflict of interest for a lot of businesses, supplement sellers and gyms included. I imagine the reasoning behind this is that the stereotype of a lazy pothead is still very popular.

as for what a more accurate description of what a pothead would be…well…you’re looking at one.

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[quote]WormwoodTheory wrote:

[quote]Nick W. wrote:
I wasn’t saying if you blaze up than you have no hope in gaining because it drains like THAT… But i’ve read in several legitimate sources that THC has the ability to lower the levels of T. I’m sure its all subjective to the individual, as well as how much they smoke etc.

I persaonlly knew alot of guys who smoked alot, and still bulked up nicely. Then again, just because something decreases testosterone levels a little, doesn’t mean you will stop making gains. [/quote]

I’m going to call bull on the lowering testosterone thing, not because i want to be an ass, but because i’ve done extensive reading on the subject, and i’ve looked into multiple case studies as well.

You have to be careful what you choose to believe when it comes to marijuana, it has a long history of slander by a lot of corporations: the people who hemp and cannabis affect directly.

if you want some links to legitimate sources, i can provide one. although certainly biased, these sources are backed by scientists who have a lot to lose by posting false info.[/quote]

This.

The reason why I commented on the cowboys is that they have been doing is since I was born, and now that I help with my families ranch I can see the effects on strength (tossing calves isn’t light work) and it does not bother them much. Now usually do not do it while they are working (that is just dangerous) however if a cowboy or a hand starts smoking while at the ranch I have yet to see that it affects their work. Now, I have seen alcohol affect some of the cowboys work.

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[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]WormwoodTheory wrote:

[quote]Nick W. wrote:
I wasn’t saying if you blaze up than you have no hope in gaining because it drains like THAT… But i’ve read in several legitimate sources that THC has the ability to lower the levels of T. I’m sure its all subjective to the individual, as well as how much they smoke etc.

I persaonlly knew alot of guys who smoked alot, and still bulked up nicely. Then again, just because something decreases testosterone levels a little, doesn’t mean you will stop making gains. [/quote]

I’m going to call bull on the lowering testosterone thing, not because i want to be an ass, but because i’ve done extensive reading on the subject, and i’ve looked into multiple case studies as well.

You have to be careful what you choose to believe when it comes to marijuana, it has a long history of slander by a lot of corporations: the people who hemp and cannabis affect directly.

if you want some links to legitimate sources, i can provide one. although certainly biased, these sources are backed by scientists who have a lot to lose by posting false info.[/quote]

This.

The reason why I commented on the cowboys is that they have been doing is since I was born, and now that I help with my families ranch I can see the effects on strength (tossing calves isn’t light work) and it does not bother them much. Now usually do not do it while they are working (that is just dangerous) however if a cowboy or a hand starts smoking while at the ranch I have yet to see that it affects their work. Now, I have seen alcohol affect some of the cowboys work.[/quote]

I can see that. Haha some of my buddys in HS were top athletes in Football and wrestling, not mention lifted like a bodybuilder would, yet got blazed up everyday. Thats why I knew it would’nt make or break you. I just didn’t know if that just meant it decreased T, just not enough to inhibit muscle growth.

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No way. No cardio if you’re stoned. Just no. It’s the only time I threw a whitey.