Success another pic from her! (haven’t seen it so its new to me…)
It really WAS in my inbox. And I will confirm that Hallowed does have an asshole.
The tattoo is a very nice piece I might add. It has amazin detail to it.
Kudos
If anyone wants the bhole pic lemme know I will forward it.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Sterneneisen wrote:
@Maiden3.16: Only training the DL for the last 2 years. My best excuse.[/quote]
Not a good one though. I had your stats as a skinny college freshman. After two years of lifting, if I still had those stats, I would consider my time wasted.
I swear some of you waste so much freaking time that you won’t ever get back.
Being skinny and lean just means you don’t eat. It isn’t really an accomplishment at all.[/quote]
This is why i find it so funny when i would hear a girl talk about how someone like David Beckham or some character from twilight have such “hot” bodies. They are just lean. That is all. Anyone can not eat.
Abs dont mean shit. Abs mean you arent fat. There are crack heads with six packs. Abs on a 230 lb person though, that is impressive.
[quote]Hallowed wrote:
I cannot post my anus because it is surrounded by a very recognizable tattoo of my family crest and social security number and I don’t want the feds catching me for my ROIDZ!!![/quote]
hallowed has just administered a level of destruction that hasnt been seen since the tsunami in Japan
@Jskrabak:
I don’t have a hard-on for chins and deads (well, maybe a little).
But, I think deads as the most important strength exercise (and test), due to working your whole PC, your back, traps and forearms.
Chins are a good test of overall pulling strength. And the only exercise where an ~injury didn’t stop me from progressing. Any wonder I like them? WTF, while a long story, for a certain amount of time this was the only exercise I could do (medical reasons).
For pressing (as I’m A BEGINNNER in this whole pressing thing - less than a year of more serious pressing), I’m doing 1A Push-ups (on a “PLP” program). Before any (stupid) flames, the 1A push-up can get to about 1.3 BW. 1.3 BW for reps and explosively => at least a 1.5 BW bench. WHICH I KNOW IS NOT MUCH. But I’ve YET to get there.
(1A PUs involve a load of shoulder stabilizer action (serratus and ext rotators at the least), train your obliques, involve more triceps and shoulder than the BP… I think they are a pretty good choice for someone for whom they are actually difficult. I also do dips (because they also don’t hurt))
Add in some rotator cuff work, direct ab & erector work, and some higher-rep work for arms, rows and rear delts to keep the joints healthy, and I’d say I’ve got all covered. A DL/upper-body pull/u-b press is actually very balanced (certainly more than “Squat/BP/DL”). What other lift should I care about? My side bend? Or my reverse curl?
My full stats:
154 lbs (132 when I started) @ 5’10"
BP: 162 lbs (tested yesterday) (I don’t usually bench)
Chin: 154+100 = 254 lbs
DL: 308 lbs
Squat: at least 200 lbs
OHP: at most 110 lbs, but my shoulders/supraspinatus hurt for a few days after that (OHP, not 1RM testing). NOT doing it.
So, if I say I have fucked up genetics, I don’t say it as an excuse.
It took me ~5 years of going to doctors and chiros and such until I could actually begin DL-ing/squatting without pain, and after ~2 years of slow progress (common sense, I wasn’t very aggressive with it), it now stalled and started going down. But I guess this is what happens when you do an exercise for 2 years… So, as I said before, as of today I’ll be doing SLDLs and leg presses (or pistols) for a few months.
And I can’t OHP due to supraspinatus pain. Also, my shoulders hurt and/or crackle on a FUCKING 160 LB BENCH! Despite a 254 lb chin. Despite strong external rotators. Despite rowing (my unweighted chins are nearly rows; my body is very angled to the ground). Despite more pulling than pushing.
Does it look like my training is stupidly programmed? Or that my body has some bio-mechanical deficiencies out of no fault of my own? (for which I’m doing my best to train around)
If I told those/you guys who DLed 440 in a few or the first or whatever sessions to “stick it” (in a friendly/joking manner, as you should’ve noticed), it’s because despite an at least average program (certainly at least as good as the one they/you had in the beginning), my DL is now an “incredible” 308 and going down. No, I’m not complaining. I know that with a lot of training, time, and food, I’ll get it to 500. Or more. Only that for me this process is not as easy as “go to gym, add 20 lbs to DL, go home, repeat until 440 or more on bar”
THIS THREAD was supposed to be a rant on 1. “Ideal” BW is considered to be horrendously low (but you all know the standards set/accepted by untrained people are jokes) 2. Not everyone can DL 440 in a month or two or none of training. If you can, good for you, you have great genetics. But for others, it’s actually an accomplishment because it took WORK, maybe even SMART training. While for you, it didn’t, it just came.
It was NOT supposed to be an “excuse” for pulling 308.
Why the fuck would I try to excuse myself in front of any you? I don’t know you personally. I’ll never meet you in person. I know many/most posters are 180+ (many 220+) and much stronger than me. And as such, that “bragging” about a 308 DL (and, oh, a 254 chin… yeah, 220 + 33 lbs) would attract rightful “hatin”. BUT I WASN’T BRAGGING. And I’ve been saying this since the beginning of the thread. Guess nobody noticed how I “admitted” that “a woman can pull 300” “that’s a really low weight” etc. or how I was joking that ms. Hallowed is only “relatively bigger: 150 @ 5’7” vs 154 @ 5’10".
If that seemed bragging…than whether my skills in communicating suck or your skills in reading comprehension suck. (or you simply don’t read the whole post before you answer)
So… any suggestions for someone who goes on a much higher fat diet (as in do I need any supps for the liver etc.)? (I’ll be bulking by adding 100-200 g of roasted peanuts/day, in addition to the fatty meat and eggs I’m already eating)
@Overstand: by your size alone, you should’ve noticed I’m underweight. It wouldn’t’ve been flaming. Thanks for trying to help, but I know where I am. And it’s not enough.
Anyway, I think 90+% of men would say Hallowed looks great (the other 10% would think she is “too muscular” LOL). And if that’s “chubby”, what do you consider “lean”?
Personally, I think an extremely lean woman with an uber-defined six-pack (or anything more than a somewhat visible six-pack) and great vascularity (usually with this comes “no tits syndrome”) looks gross. Regardless of whether she looks like a man or an anorexic man.
Look into the AD if your dead set on high fat.
Look into high carb if you can, see how you handle them.
If all else fails look into SQUATS and MIlK. I havent seen GOMAD fail with seriously underweight/fast motabolisim people.
Seriously dude, yeah it’s hard but it’s not complicated.
Eat enough to build muscle, not too much as to put on lard. It’s all trial and error.
[quote]overstand wrote:
…instead of giving this dude tips, everybody was shitting all over him when he didn’t even say anything offensive. After you shit all over him, he didn’t even try to stand up for himself, and people kept on going. Ironically the person who gave him the best advice and talked the least shit was Professor X. [/quote]
I swear I must be invisible or something, or just incredibly boring…no-one notices stuff I say, threads die in my presence haha
[quote]Sterneneisen wrote:
@Jskrabak:
I don’t have a hard-on for chins and deads (well, maybe a little).
But, I think deads as the most important strength exercise (and test), due to working your whole PC, your back, traps and forearms.
Chins are a good test of overall pulling strength. And the only exercise where an ~injury didn’t stop me from progressing. Any wonder I like them? WTF, while a long story, for a certain amount of time this was the only exercise I could do (medical reasons).
For pressing (as I’m A BEGINNNER in this whole pressing thing - less than a year of more serious pressing), I’m doing 1A Push-ups (on a “PLP” program). Before any (stupid) flames, the 1A push-up can get to about 1.3 BW. 1.3 BW for reps and explosively => at least a 1.5 BW bench. WHICH I KNOW IS NOT MUCH. But I’ve YET to get there.
(1A PUs involve a load of shoulder stabilizer action (serratus and ext rotators at the least), train your obliques, involve more triceps and shoulder than the BP… I think they are a pretty good choice for someone for whom they are actually difficult. I also do dips (because they also don’t hurt))
Add in some rotator cuff work, direct ab & erector work, and some higher-rep work for arms, rows and rear delts to keep the joints healthy, and I’d say I’ve got all covered. A DL/upper-body pull/u-b press is actually very balanced (certainly more than “Squat/BP/DL”). What other lift should I care about? My side bend? Or my reverse curl?
My full stats:
154 lbs (132 when I started) @ 5’10"
BP: 162 lbs (tested yesterday) (I don’t usually bench)
Chin: 154+100 = 254 lbs
DL: 308 lbs
Squat: at least 200 lbs
OHP: at most 110 lbs, but my shoulders/supraspinatus hurt for a few days after that (OHP, not 1RM testing). NOT doing it.
So, if I say I have fucked up genetics, I don’t say it as an excuse.
It took me ~5 years of going to doctors and such until I could actually begin DL-ing, and after ~2 years of slow progress (common sense, I wasn’t very aggressive with it), it now stalled and started going down. But I guess this is what happens when you do an exercise for 2 years… So, as I said before, as of today I’ll be doing SLDLs and leg presses (or pistols) for a few months.
And I can’t OHP. Also, my shoulders hurt and/or crackle on a FUCKING 160 LB BENCH! Despite a 254 chin. Despite strong external rotators. Despite rowing (my unweighted chins are nearly rows; my body is very angled to the ground). Despite more pulling than pushing.
Does it look like my training is stupidly programmed? Or that my body has some bio-mechanical deficiencies out of no fault of my own? (for which I’m doing my best to train around)
If I told those/you guys who DLed 440 in a few sessions or the first or whatever to “stick it” (in a friendly/joking manner, as you should’ve noticed), it’s because despite an at least average program (certainly at least as good as the one they/you had in the beginning), my DL is now an “incredible” 308 and going down. No, I’m not complaining. I know that with a lot of training, time, and food, I’ll get it to 500. Or more. Only that for me this process is not as easy as “go to gym, add 20 lbs to DL, go home, repeat until 440 or more on bar”
THIS THREAD was supposed to be a rant on 1. “Ideal” BW is considered to be horrendously low (but you all know the standards set/accepted by untrained people are jokes) 2. Not everyone can DL 440 in a month or two or none of training. If you can, good for you, you have great genetics. But for others, it’s actually an accomplishment because it took WORK, maybe even SMART training. While for you, it didn’t, it just came.
It was NOT supposed to be an “excuse” for pulling 308.
Why the fuck would I try to excuse myself in front of any you? I don’t know you personally. I’ll never meet you in person. I know many/most posters are 180+ (many 220+) and much stronger than me. And as such, that “bragging” about a 308 DL (and, oh, a 254 chin… yeah, 220 + 33 lbs) would attract rightful “hatin”. BUT I WASN’T BRAGGING. And I’ve been saying this since the beginning of the thread. Guess nobody noticed how I “admitted” that “a woman can pull 300” “that’s a really low weight” etc. or how I was joking that ms. Hallowed is only “relatively bigger: 150 @ 5’7” vs 154 @ 5’10".
If that seemed bragging…than whether my skills in communicating suck or your skills in reading comprehension suck. (or you simply don’t read the whole post before you answer)
So… any suggestions for someone who goes on a much higher fat diet (as in do I need any supps for the liver etc.)? (I’ll be bulking by adding 100-200 g of roasted peanuts/day, in addition to the fatty meat and eggs I’m already eating)
.[/quote]
Man, how do you manage to walk out your front door? You’re falling apart lol It’s amazing to see the amount of people on here who’re lucky to be alive 
Your deadlift probably stagnated and got weaker due to bad form, and/or bad build for it (some people’s structure make them round more than others). Excessive rounding of the lower back has probably caught up with you (weak link got much weaker/injured).
No-body get’s anywhere in bodybuilding without good progression on their lifts. As someone quite intelligent once said; “insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome”. As a beginner, progression = big jumps, not just a plate or so after 2 years. It doesn’t matter if you are skinny, poor genetics/recovery - you should make big leaps in strength (maybe not as much as the genetically gifted, but often 2x what you started with or more…and not just after years and years.
Leave your OCD behind, end your love affair for an exercise if it’s not going to “co-operate”. Sure, people drool over the basic lifts, but if you added 200lbs to your t-bar rows, compared to 80lbs to your deadlifts, which lift do you think will make your back thicker? A person who goes from a 120lbs bench to 300lbs+ for reps is going to have a bigger chest than someone who get stuck at 150lbs. So if you have issues, work around them, substitute/improvise…only after giving it a fair trial mind you. Let the exercise serve you, not the other way around (don’t let it beat you)
Hope this helps
[quote]Hallowed wrote:
I cannot post my anus because it is surrounded by a very recognizable tattoo of my family crest and social security number and I don’t want the feds catching me for my ROIDZ!!![/quote]
HAHAHA
[quote]Sterneneisen wrote:
So… any suggestions for someone who goes on a much higher fat diet (as in do I need any supps for the liver etc.)? (I’ll be bulking by adding 100-200 g of roasted peanuts/day, in addition to the fatty meat and eggs I’m already eating)
[/quote]
This is all you needed to post instead of all that other mumbo jumbo. And for someone that’s read every online T-Mag since it’s inception, I would think you could come up with a better strategy than just adding roasted peanuts.
Ummm… taking into account the economical and temporal factors, adding some high calorie food/eating fatter stuff are the only things available.
Beans
Eggs
Milk
Rice
Fish…the frozen stuff…ipollock is dirt cheap,so is cod.
Find youself a small butchers shop and get familiar with the staff…they’ll throw you and extra pound or two sometimes for your loyalty
I’ve even known dudes to eat at soup kitchens to get the calories up…
There are a million ways to do it economically.
[quote]Sterneneisen wrote:
Ummm… taking into account the economical and temporal factors, adding some high calorie food/eating fatter stuff are the only things available.[/quote]
Is that another excuse I see?
Maiden3.16, get bent with your calling “excuse!”. Wow, so now I need to go on the Anaconda protocol, take a box of Metabolic Drive/day, pop a few caps of Flameout/day, eat lean peacock breast with organically grown brown rice 6 times/day and…what else? for someone to stop calling “IT’S AN EXCUSE”?
Bulking implies high quantities of high(er) quality high-calorie foods. Be that GOMAD, nuts & raisins or any Trail mix variation, or even eating rice & chicken until you feel like hurling.
I’ll just eat pork, animal fat, cheese, milk, eggs, rye bread, and eat peanuts between meals for some EXTRA calories. Adding in some lettuce and fruit every once in a while. Maybe boil a few eggs in the morning and also eat those between meals. Hmmm…
[quote]Sterneneisen wrote:
@Jskrabak:
I don’t have a hard-on for chins and deads (well, maybe a little).
But, I think deads as the most important strength exercise (and test), due to working your whole PC, your back, traps and forearms.
Chins are a good test of overall pulling strength. And the only exercise where an ~injury didn’t stop me from progressing. Any wonder I like them? WTF, while a long story, for a certain amount of time this was the only exercise I could do (medical reasons).
For pressing (as I’m A BEGINNNER in this whole pressing thing - less than a year of more serious pressing), I’m doing 1A Push-ups (on a “PLP” program). Before any (stupid) flames, the 1A push-up can get to about 1.3 BW. 1.3 BW for reps and explosively => at least a 1.5 BW bench. WHICH I KNOW IS NOT MUCH. But I’ve YET to get there.
(1A PUs involve a load of shoulder stabilizer action (serratus and ext rotators at the least), train your obliques, involve more triceps and shoulder than the BP… I think they are a pretty good choice for someone for whom they are actually difficult. I also do dips (because they also don’t hurt))
Add in some rotator cuff work, direct ab & erector work, and some higher-rep work for arms, rows and rear delts to keep the joints healthy, and I’d say I’ve got all covered. A DL/upper-body pull/u-b press is actually very balanced (certainly more than “Squat/BP/DL”). What other lift should I care about? My side bend? Or my reverse curl?
My full stats:
154 lbs (132 when I started) @ 5’10"
BP: 162 lbs (tested yesterday) (I don’t usually bench)
Chin: 154+100 = 254 lbs
DL: 308 lbs
Squat: at least 200 lbs
OHP: at most 110 lbs, but my shoulders/supraspinatus hurt for a few days after that (OHP, not 1RM testing). NOT doing it.
So, if I say I have fucked up genetics, I don’t say it as an excuse.
It took me ~5 years of going to doctors and chiros and such until I could actually begin DL-ing/squatting without pain, and after ~2 years of slow progress (common sense, I wasn’t very aggressive with it), it now stalled and started going down. But I guess this is what happens when you do an exercise for 2 years… So, as I said before, as of today I’ll be doing SLDLs and leg presses (or pistols) for a few months.
And I can’t OHP due to supraspinatus pain. Also, my shoulders hurt and/or crackle on a FUCKING 160 LB BENCH! Despite a 254 lb chin. Despite strong external rotators. Despite rowing (my unweighted chins are nearly rows; my body is very angled to the ground). Despite more pulling than pushing.
Does it look like my training is stupidly programmed? Or that my body has some bio-mechanical deficiencies out of no fault of my own? (for which I’m doing my best to train around)
If I told those/you guys who DLed 440 in a few or the first or whatever sessions to “stick it” (in a friendly/joking manner, as you should’ve noticed), it’s because despite an at least average program (certainly at least as good as the one they/you had in the beginning), my DL is now an “incredible” 308 and going down. No, I’m not complaining. I know that with a lot of training, time, and food, I’ll get it to 500. Or more. Only that for me this process is not as easy as “go to gym, add 20 lbs to DL, go home, repeat until 440 or more on bar”
THIS THREAD was supposed to be a rant on 1. “Ideal” BW is considered to be horrendously low (but you all know the standards set/accepted by untrained people are jokes) 2. Not everyone can DL 440 in a month or two or none of training. If you can, good for you, you have great genetics. But for others, it’s actually an accomplishment because it took WORK, maybe even SMART training. While for you, it didn’t, it just came.
It was NOT supposed to be an “excuse” for pulling 308.
Why the fuck would I try to excuse myself in front of any you? I don’t know you personally. I’ll never meet you in person. I know many/most posters are 180+ (many 220+) and much stronger than me. And as such, that “bragging” about a 308 DL (and, oh, a 254 chin… yeah, 220 + 33 lbs) would attract rightful “hatin”. BUT I WASN’T BRAGGING. And I’ve been saying this since the beginning of the thread. Guess nobody noticed how I “admitted” that “a woman can pull 300” “that’s a really low weight” etc. or how I was joking that ms. Hallowed is only “relatively bigger: 150 @ 5’7” vs 154 @ 5’10".
If that seemed bragging…than whether my skills in communicating suck or your skills in reading comprehension suck. (or you simply don’t read the whole post before you answer)
So… any suggestions for someone who goes on a much higher fat diet (as in do I need any supps for the liver etc.)? (I’ll be bulking by adding 100-200 g of roasted peanuts/day, in addition to the fatty meat and eggs I’m already eating)
@Overstand: by your size alone, you should’ve noticed I’m underweight. It wouldn’t’ve been flaming. Thanks for trying to help, but I know where I am. And it’s not enough.
Anyway, I think 90+% of men would say Hallowed looks great (the other 10% would think she is “too muscular” LOL). And if that’s “chubby”, what do you consider “lean”?
Personally, I think an extremely lean woman with an uber-defined six-pack (or anything more than a somewhat visible six-pack) and great vascularity (usually with this comes “no tits syndrome”) looks gross. Regardless of whether she looks like a man or an anorexic man.[/quote]
For someone whose “temporal factors” prevent him from eating more, you sure have written a lot of shit here.
[quote]Sterneneisen wrote:
Maiden3.16, get bent with your calling “excuse!”. Wow, so now I need to go on the Anaconda protocol, take a box of Metabolic Drive/day, pop a few caps of Flameout/day, eat lean peacock breast with organically grown brown rice 6 times/day and…what else? for someone to stop calling “IT’S AN EXCUSE”?
Bulking implies high quantities of high(er) quality high-calorie foods. Be that GOMAD, nuts & raisins or any Trail mix variation, or even eating rice & chicken breasts until you feel like hurling.
I’ll just eat pork, animal fat, cheese, milk, eggs, rye bread, and eat peanuts between meals for some EXTRA calories. Adding in some lettuce and fruit every once in a while. Maybe boil a few eggs in the morning and also eat those between meals. Hmmm…
Yeah, I took a liking to fat because I don’t like spending my whole day chewing cud (buckwheat, bread, pasta or other carbs), and if I don’t thoroughly chew what I eat I can be considered a crowd-control agent…[/quote]
lol… OK i’m thinking troll now.
I remember you’re thread in the beginner section and I thought you were just a little misguided… but after saying that you’ve “read every article on this site” but your understanding of what a proper diet should be is what you listed above???
also, the comment you made, which Maiden responded to, IS AN EXCUSE lol… thats why he called excuse. Do you understand what an excuse is?
Where are you from OP?
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
[quote]Sterneneisen wrote:
Ummm… taking into account the economical and temporal factors, adding some high calorie food/eating fatter stuff are the only things available.[/quote]
Is that another excuse I see?[/quote]
Excuses are like assholes- Everyone has em, and they’re always full of shit.
OP, Adding some peanuts does not = Bulking. Count threw up some great cheap options, though i am still a bit hazy on the actual purpose of this thread (i didnt care to read from the beginning and several posts are contradictory/ping-pong).
PS- Hallowed is on my Christmas Wish List. This supposed 10% of men that would say she’s too big are probably the same 1/10 in the closet dudes. Yay for arbitrary, conjured statistics.
[quote]Sterneneisen wrote:
Maiden3.16, get bent with your calling “excuse!”. Wow, so now I need to go on the Anaconda protocol, take a box of Metabolic Drive/day, pop a few caps of Flameout/day, eat lean peacock breast with organically grown brown rice 6 times/day and…what else? for someone to stop calling “IT’S AN EXCUSE”?[/quote]
Steak and hamburgers
[quote]
Adding in some lettuce…[/quote]
lol
dude, seriously, you think too much. Just eat your damn food and go lift.
Romania. Wages: 800$ = acceptable wage. 2000$ = BIG wage. >2000$ = probably top 0.x percentile.
Food prices: same as in the West, or more expensive (milk: 1$/liter, meat: 5-10 $/kg, cheese: 4-10 $/kg, peanuts: 4-5 $/kg, rye bread (50% rye, 50% black flour): 1.8$/kg… hazelnuts, almonds, pistachio: 12-20$/kg)
What’s wrong with a diet made up of a lot of animal products (not meat by-products, but real meat, even though not necessarily grass-fed, raw milk etc.), some ~whole grain bread (or potatoes), and some veggies/fruits? And peanuts?
I’d say the problem for me is total calorie content, not protein (2g / kg)