MAG-10 Pulse Fast is Here

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[quote]Darkane wrote:
Cool stuff by Lyle.

I’m going to do a trial fast run tomorrow, I got GPC and MAG-10 but no Power Drive.

I might do x3 dose of GPC just to get some more coline in.

The next day should be fun. Egg whites, tuna, Turkey breast and whey. Then about a truckload of potatoes, a strength session in the AM, some band-work and bodyweight stuff in the PM.

Very excite :D[/quote]

Update: Finished the pulse yesterday.

Couple things to note - I had almost zero hunger and only hit the hunger pangs twice.
Secondly - I had ZERO thermo-effect, or at least felt like it.

I know for a fact when I cut Fats from the diet I get cold. I did Lyle’s Rapid fat loss which is a Protein sparing modified fast, much like this Pulse.

As for Bowel movements, didn’t even have one yesterday during the pulse, had one this morning after my meal. Seems breakfast “triggers” the movement and with no food it didn’t get the message? Lol I don’t know.

As far as weight lost, I weighed in at 232.5 in the morning of, and 230 the morning after. I did look ‘slightly’ tighter, but it could be my hopes that I was legitimately tighter.

As per Thibs recommendations, Carbs are high today and we’ll see what happens today, tomorrow and maybe sunday.

Protocol done without Power Drive, which is said to be fine to do. Power Drive was for a well being effect. I found energy levels quite stable throughout the fast, not an issue.

Oh final thing, terrible sleep. lol.

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So I’ve noticed much better effects the second time around on this pulse. Instead of eating like a huge lard-ass the day after the fast, I instead opted for still eating healthy, but just lots of food… lots of protein, good fats, and carbs (Ezekiel bread) were only kept around breakfast, and had some FINiBARs/Surge Workout Fuel at peri-workout. Love handles seem to be shrinking up a bit.

My body is seriously not meant for ANY carbs, unless I’ve been ketogenic for a long time (if that). It sucks.

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[quote]PB Andy wrote:
So I’ve noticed much better effects the second time around on this pulse. Instead of eating like a huge lard-ass the day after the fast, I instead opted for still eating healthy, but just lots of food… lots of protein, good fats, and carbs (Ezekiel bread) were only kept around breakfast, and had some FINiBARs/Surge Workout Fuel at peri-workout. Love handles seem to be shrinking up a bit.[/quote]

Good job.

As I might have already posted, I’ve found the MAG-10 Pulse Fast significantly easier each of the first 4 times I did it. By the fourth time it was a complete breeze, easier than a normal day of eating, and I’m someone with a somewhat large appetite. I love food. If not for greater desire to stay relatively lean, I’d surely be obese.

I saw my love handles and low back fat shrink as well, and those are the most difficult places for me to lose fat. I’ve had to punish myself in the past with strict dieting to tighten up here. Now I’m doing a MAG-10 Pulse Fast on Monday and eating around maintenance level, as my hunger dictates, the rest of the week.

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PB Andy, Brian -

Did you guys experience the Thermo effect at all?

I was cold during my first pulse, not sure if it was a fluke. I’m actually on a mass phase right now so My body temp is good.

Maybe my body is different, but I get cold without fats in my diet.

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[quote]Darkane wrote:
PB Andy, Brian -

Did you guys experience the Thermo effect at all?

I was cold during my first pulse, not sure if it was a fluke. I’m actually on a mass phase right now so My body temp is good.

Maybe my body is different, but I get cold without fats in my diet. [/quote]

I’ve felt more heat radiating from my body, yet I’ve been a little more susceptible to getting chilled when sitting near an A/C duct or while out during a cool evening.

I’ve adapted by wearing an undershirt and/or something with long sleeves on MAG-10 Pulse Fast days.

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What’s the thermo effect, just increased metabolic rate? I was pretty hot during my first pulse. My second pulse, I was ugly.

Just kidding, my second pulse I didn’t feel any ‘thermo effect’.

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Had my 2nd fast yesterday. I’m happy to say I haven’t binged on crap the days following lol. I think that is where a lot of people will go wrong. I did neural charge workouts on both fast days, and felt no lack of energy. My routine is:

Day 1: Neural Charge - Pulse Fast
Day 2: Legs - High Carb (above maintenance)
Day 3: Push - Med Carbs (maintenance)
Day 4: Pull - Low Carb/Higher Fat (still maintenance)

I’ll be repeating this for the next month or so. I can already tell I’ve leaned up a bit in the lower midsection. I’ll be excited to see how things turn out over the next month. I really believe in the “reprogramming” thing, and results will be better the more pulses you do. Also, I’ve hit PRs every day in the gym, so strength is still good, if not better than traditional diet.

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[quote]ashylarryku wrote:
Had my 2nd fast yesterday. I’m happy to say I haven’t binged on crap the days following lol. I think that is where a lot of people will go wrong. I did neural charge workouts on both fast days, and felt no lack of energy. My routine is:

Day 1: Neural Charge - Pulse Fast
Day 2: Legs - High Carb (above maintenance)
Day 3: Push - Med Carbs (maintenance)
Day 4: Pull - Low Carb/Higher Fat (still maintenance)

I’ll be repeating this for the next month or so. I can already tell I’ve leaned up a bit in the lower midsection. I’ll be excited to see how things turn out over the next month. I really believe in the “reprogramming” thing, and results will be better the more pulses you do. Also, I’ve hit PRs every day in the gym, so strength is still good, if not better than traditional diet.[/quote]

Bad ass ashylarryku. I’m super pumped to try this in a few weeks with some leftover MAG-10 ANACONDA and peptopro and other junk (DMAE, Alpha-GPC, etc. – yeah I have a lot of 2/3 empty containers of things, lol) that I’ve just got laying around. IF it works out well results wise, then I’ll probably try to start doing something like this more long term, like once every 10 days or something.

Keep the feedback coming guys. Girls with any feedack can PM me the after photos.

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I think I’m gonna have to do this on a Tuesday. Wednesday is a long day–school early and then work. So I can go low carb and moderate cals up until 8pm, and then gorge until around 2am. My main concern is going to be getting to sleep on Tuesday…

Keep the results coming guys, will be interesting to see what happens over the course of three or four fasts.

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I’ve been following this thread and IMO there is some misconception about this protocol. The key merit of this protocol is its alleged ability to induce hyperaminoacidemia. Research appears to show that only casein hydrosylate can achieve this, and that perhaps this state can only be maintained with an absence of digesting factors, i.e. other proteins, fats, etc. Therefore, a protocol featuring only ingesting CHY may put the body into this state despite the absence of energy. This then could indeed be the holy grail of body composition = fat loss and muscle growth simultaneously.

Anyone considering this protocol should re-read CT’s early pulsing comments, which were kicking around long before the release of MAG-10, for a better understanding.

Other features, i.e. anabolic rebound effect, fat loss, etc, could as easily be achieved with far less expense by simply cutting carbs and calories.

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I have read quite a few people say how much they weighed before the pulse, and then how much they weighed after the pulse. I’d be interested to know how people’s weight (and bodyfat %) changed on a daily basis for at least a few weeks after starting the pulsing.

If you were 200lbs the day before the fast, and 3lbs lighter the next day, how heavy were you on day 3, 4, 5, 6 etc? Does the weight come back 2 days after pulsing, for example? What is the net effect after 3-4 weeks?

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I did one of these yesterday, as prescribed in the article. Hunger wasn’t much of an issue, but lack of caffeine caused me to drag a bit, until I got in the gym. I wasn’t really amped up or anything, just very businesslike for lack of a better term. I wound up setting an overhead press PR which was cool.

What was not cool was the frequent trips to the commode. No wonder they said don’t worry about fiber during these fasts. I think I’ll stick to 1x per week.

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I have done the fast twice and have yet to experience the “cleansing” effect. I’m not tracking weight on a daily basis, just once or twice a week. But I am taking pictures and even without the pictures, I’m feeling leaner and leaner in the midsection without losing much weight. I’m also hitting PRs every time I’m in the gym. I only do neural charge workouts on the day of the fast though. Yesterday, I hit 4 pretty big PRs (2 on standing MP, one on incline bench, and one on flat bench) and this was the day after a fast. So, anyone afraid of losing strength for some reason, there’s no need to.

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I did my Pulse Fast as day 21 in my V-Diet. I was already low on carbs and under maintenance calories anyway so I didn’t have much trouble sticking to the fast. I did a V burn challenge workout on Fast day and the day after I did a normal V-Diet workout. I lifted much heavier and felt better in they gym than any other V-Diet workout despite the reduced rest periods. I know I was cold on fast day especially in my fingers, hands, and toes. The day after the fast I felt amazing. Even though it was just back to V-Diet protocol, I had a ton of energy and felt like I could have worked out twice and recovered. two days after the pulse I had the best mirror results of my V-Diet. Leaner and full muscles for the first time since I started. The day after the fast once I started having shakes I was incredibly hungry. I haven’t experienced that the entire V-Diet. For anyone wondering about a rebound and losing any benefit a few days later, I would say that depends on what you are planning on doing. If you aren’t getting the results you want based on what you are doing then how can you expect long term results following the same plan?

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I want to know why it’s recommended to sip 400 mL every 2-3 hours, when the point of the “peaks and valleys” that CT had discussed earlier was to allow blood amino levels to drop so the spike in levels would be beneficial. If you’re drinking every 2 hours, is that enough time to allow the same “valleys” (drops) in amino levels?

Why not just drink 3 times TOTAL in one day, so every 6 hours, for instance?

I’m saying the recommendation to sip every few hours doesn’t go with what CT has been stating about hyperacidoamineia (sp).

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[quote]JamesBrawn007 wrote:
I’ve been following this thread and IMO there is some misconception about this protocol. The key merit of this protocol is its alleged ability to induce hyperaminoacidemia. Research appears to show that only casein hydrosylate can achieve this, and that perhaps this state can only be maintained with an absence of digesting factors, i.e. other proteins, fats, etc. Therefore, a protocol featuring only ingesting CHY may put the body into this state despite the absence of energy. This then could indeed be the holy grail of body composition = fat loss and muscle growth simultaneously.

Anyone considering this protocol should re-read CT’s early pulsing comments, which were kicking around long before the release of MAG-10, for a better understanding.

Other features, i.e. anabolic rebound effect, fat loss, etc, could as easily be achieved with far less expense by simply cutting carbs and calories.[/quote]

I think it’s the extent to which it induces the anabolic rebound and fat loss, and how quickly it’s able to do this. There’s absolutely no reason to believe that any muscle is being put on during the fast. Even the fat loss seems to come at the tail end, and I would expect more to come the next day.

I read all that stuff as CT posted it. I used other CH products before MAG-10 came out. Protein synthesis is a small piece of the puzzle.

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i take it no black coffe or anything allowed?
did my first fast yesterday, realised at 3pm i had only been drinking 200ml every 2 hours instead of 400ml (dumbass). am i to understand that youre supposed to drink the stuff WITHOUT Power Drive after 3pm?
and the cherry flavor is egh

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I was just about to put in an order for some MAG-10 until I saw the $70 for shipping! What a disappointment.

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[quote]caveman101 wrote:
i take it no black coffe or anything allowed?
did my first fast yesterday, realised at 3pm i had only been drinking 200ml every 2 hours instead of 400ml (dumbass). am i to understand that youre supposed to drink the stuff WITHOUT Power Drive after 3pm?
and the cherry flavor is egh[/quote]

Black coffee is fine, I asked in the live spill. I couldn’t survive a day of no eating without my coffee! Haha

You are supposed to finish the Power Drive before 3 pm. But honestly, I’m not sure if it matters much. I just do one scoop on my 1st bottle, and then 2 scoops directly after my neural charge session

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thank fuck for that