Macklemore and Ryan Lewis

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Facepalm_Death wrote:
Macklemore’s flow is pretty sloppy imo. Its actually kinda a disgrace because a lot of underground hip hop in seattle is pretty nasty, but none of these artists like common market and blue scholars got the same exposure. Scion from Common Market prolly has the most precise effortless flow i’ve heard:

song starts at 1:25

[/quote]

I only know the one thrift shop song from him. Its played every freaking time im at the gym, and i’d agree he sounds sloppy and uninspired. Not very clever at all. [/quote]

Listen to the heist most of the songs are completely different to thrift shop and a lot better.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]BroLac wrote:
I can’t relate to dropping thousands of dollars in a club, shooting guns at people and selling kilos of cocaine.[/quote]

But how much do you wish you could?[/quote]

Not at all, because if you break it down, the dollar per lay ratio is abysmal.

And make no mistake, in these sort of displays that is pretty much all this is about.[/quote]

Was mostly just making a funny there, as anti-social and politically incorrect as it is, I would still love to offload boats worth of the stuff. I can go without the club scene, but the other two seem like they’d be fun, to some extent.[/quote]

There are a few people I would like to shoot at too.

Unfortunately, society has deemed that to be unacceptable.

Spoilsports.

I would not know how to get rid of a few kilos of cocaine.

Weed, definitely, and if I have to do it alone. [/quote]

Society has deemed a lot of things unacceptable that should by no means have ever been that way, not to say that delighting in mass murder of people one dislikes should be accepted, but even something as simple as fisticuffs for the sake of it is regarded as some kind of intolerable legal “sin”. A slap on the wrist and being sent home for the night maybe, a jail sentence and a criminal record, no.

I’m sure it’s not overly hard to learn, assuming one has their wits about them. It’s the fundamentals of business compiled into it’s own sub-branch, a largely inefficient and risky one, but basic business nonetheless. I know a few who may or may not have dealt in expensive white powders and oily juices to a reasonable degree of success (although possibly not up to full kilogram bags), and I’m almost certain that none of them hold a summa cum laude in business ventures.

The other, more viable options, are child’s play to trade around. All I would have needed were a few weeks of trading Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon cards as a kid and I could be set for my teenage years. Perhaps in a few years when such substances are no longer taboo, and we draw ourselves at least a little closer to rationality, these Pokemon cards will be replaced with local strains and novelty bongs.

If the mainstream rap “icons” of this day and age can brag about their proficiencies there, I must assume that there is hope for us all.[/quote]

Does it really have to be mass murder?

What was wrong with duels?

Why cant two gentleman not adress their grievances with a civil and perfectly polite duell at & o clock in the park of their choosing?

We would live in such a polite and civil society, it would be a mild form of eugenics too.

At least when it comes to hand eye coordination. [/quote]

When I think rap-stereotype shootings I don’t think gentlemanly duels, that was likely my reasoning behind “mass murder”

Duels I can deal with, perhaps a little more extreme than a bare knuckle fist-fight, but respectable nonetheless.

Can’t help but think that there’s an advantage for the natural early birds there, or just an incentive to fall asleep at a reasonable hour. If most arrogant, obnoxious men with a false sense of security were under an accepted code when faced with a duel, perhaps there would be less arrogant, obnoxious men.[/quote]

Yeah, there would be.

Dead serious about duells too.

Though, early in the morning is kind of traditional, you could do it at high noon too.

Would also be more American.

[/quote]

I also like the idea of organised duels, as a sort of Hemingway/Roosevelt ideal. Even though his life turned to shit by consequence, you can’t fault Aaron Burr for being the better duelist.

Oh boo American. Let’s not forget the moustached, monocled, bowler hatted delightful old Englishmen who led the flintlock production lines way back when. Although I imagine a modern duel would be quite strange, I can’t imagine a single-shot agreeable circumstance with a glock, nor an old six-shooter for that matter.[/quote]

You have no sense of tradition.

You cannot have a proper duel with an Ak 47, or a semi auto pistol for that matter.

You, or rather your second, needs to stuff the gun powder in there, then a ball, than a wad of paper so that it does not fall out and after having it safely secured by stuffing it all in, you each get your shot.

BTW, you shoot sideways, right arm straight out, that way they dont shoot you in the heart.

Or the balls.

The last part gets never mentionend though, it just seems to be a natural coincidence of protecting your heart.

Anyhow, a proper duell is a slow, solemn affair, if you were to spray your honorable opponent with a hail of bullets, you would practically be a gangbanger.

The ritualized, formalized violence is kind of the idea. [/quote]

If it seems like stuffy British humour, it most assuredly is. I would not take such a silly idea to be so literal.

Thinking of it, it seems the left-handers get buggered in this scenario also, I do not hesitate to think that I would be down within the first contest at this rate.

Even if the idea were really to be entertained for a second time, I have a hard time believing most men would go quietly along with it. If there’s one spoilt rich child who has even a whisper of a chance to be leaded posthaste between the eyes by his own accord, to avoid a life of shame and hatred (at the very least more shame and hatred), I expect his dollar bills to be flung wildly towards the opposite direction.

A fist needs no reasonable preparation time, and faces no grand interference on it’s way to from setup to collision, even if we should have to rely on those, I remain pleased to see them come. And at least then the target is cognizant come the aftermath.

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]BroLac wrote:
I can’t relate to dropping thousands of dollars in a club, shooting guns at people and selling kilos of cocaine.[/quote]

But how much do you wish you could?[/quote]

Not at all, because if you break it down, the dollar per lay ratio is abysmal.

And make no mistake, in these sort of displays that is pretty much all this is about.[/quote]

Was mostly just making a funny there, as anti-social and politically incorrect as it is, I would still love to offload boats worth of the stuff. I can go without the club scene, but the other two seem like they’d be fun, to some extent.[/quote]

There are a few people I would like to shoot at too.

Unfortunately, society has deemed that to be unacceptable.

Spoilsports.

I would not know how to get rid of a few kilos of cocaine.

Weed, definitely, and if I have to do it alone. [/quote]

Society has deemed a lot of things unacceptable that should by no means have ever been that way, not to say that delighting in mass murder of people one dislikes should be accepted, but even something as simple as fisticuffs for the sake of it is regarded as some kind of intolerable legal “sin”. A slap on the wrist and being sent home for the night maybe, a jail sentence and a criminal record, no.

I’m sure it’s not overly hard to learn, assuming one has their wits about them. It’s the fundamentals of business compiled into it’s own sub-branch, a largely inefficient and risky one, but basic business nonetheless. I know a few who may or may not have dealt in expensive white powders and oily juices to a reasonable degree of success (although possibly not up to full kilogram bags), and I’m almost certain that none of them hold a summa cum laude in business ventures.

The other, more viable options, are child’s play to trade around. All I would have needed were a few weeks of trading Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon cards as a kid and I could be set for my teenage years. Perhaps in a few years when such substances are no longer taboo, and we draw ourselves at least a little closer to rationality, these Pokemon cards will be replaced with local strains and novelty bongs.

If the mainstream rap “icons” of this day and age can brag about their proficiencies there, I must assume that there is hope for us all.[/quote]

Does it really have to be mass murder?

What was wrong with duels?

Why cant two gentleman not adress their grievances with a civil and perfectly polite duell at & o clock in the park of their choosing?

We would live in such a polite and civil society, it would be a mild form of eugenics too.

At least when it comes to hand eye coordination. [/quote]

When I think rap-stereotype shootings I don’t think gentlemanly duels, that was likely my reasoning behind “mass murder”

Duels I can deal with, perhaps a little more extreme than a bare knuckle fist-fight, but respectable nonetheless.

Can’t help but think that there’s an advantage for the natural early birds there, or just an incentive to fall asleep at a reasonable hour. If most arrogant, obnoxious men with a false sense of security were under an accepted code when faced with a duel, perhaps there would be less arrogant, obnoxious men.[/quote]

Yeah, there would be.

Dead serious about duells too.

Though, early in the morning is kind of traditional, you could do it at high noon too.

Would also be more American.

[/quote]

I also like the idea of organised duels, as a sort of Hemingway/Roosevelt ideal. Even though his life turned to shit by consequence, you can’t fault Aaron Burr for being the better duelist.

Oh boo American. Let’s not forget the moustached, monocled, bowler hatted delightful old Englishmen who led the flintlock production lines way back when. Although I imagine a modern duel would be quite strange, I can’t imagine a single-shot agreeable circumstance with a glock, nor an old six-shooter for that matter.[/quote]

You have no sense of tradition.

You cannot have a proper duel with an Ak 47, or a semi auto pistol for that matter.

You, or rather your second, needs to stuff the gun powder in there, then a ball, than a wad of paper so that it does not fall out and after having it safely secured by stuffing it all in, you each get your shot.

BTW, you shoot sideways, right arm straight out, that way they dont shoot you in the heart.

Or the balls.

The last part gets never mentionend though, it just seems to be a natural coincidence of protecting your heart.

Anyhow, a proper duell is a slow, solemn affair, if you were to spray your honorable opponent with a hail of bullets, you would practically be a gangbanger.

The ritualized, formalized violence is kind of the idea. [/quote]

If it seems like stuffy British humour, it most assuredly is. I would not take such a silly idea to be so literal.

Thinking of it, it seems the left-handers get buggered in this scenario also, I do not hesitate to think that I would be down within the first contest at this rate.

Even if the idea were really to be entertained for a second time, I have a hard time believing most men would go quietly along with it. If there’s one spoilt rich child who has even a whisper of a chance to be leaded posthaste between the eyes by his own accord, to avoid a life of shame and hatred (at the very least more shame and hatred), I expect his dollar bills to be flung wildly towards the opposite direction.

A fist needs no reasonable preparation time, and faces no grand interference on it’s way to from setup to collision, even if we should have to rely on those, I remain pleased to see them come. And at least then the target is cognizant come the aftermath.
[/quote]

Fists are pedestrian, and they usually dont kill you.

Well, neither did duels, but they might ?

I like the idea of a man being held responsible if he runs his mouth or puts his dick where it does not belong.

The idea of another man shooting at you tends to add much clarity to otherwise muddled thoughts.

But, what really makes me like the idea are the multitudes of obnoxious loudmouths that would all fall silent if they were publicly expected to back it up.

Seriously, that is an ancient cultural technique that needs a renaissance.

We ditched it for no good reason.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]BroLac wrote:
I can’t relate to dropping thousands of dollars in a club, shooting guns at people and selling kilos of cocaine.[/quote]

But how much do you wish you could?[/quote]

Not at all, because if you break it down, the dollar per lay ratio is abysmal.

And make no mistake, in these sort of displays that is pretty much all this is about.[/quote]

Was mostly just making a funny there, as anti-social and politically incorrect as it is, I would still love to offload boats worth of the stuff. I can go without the club scene, but the other two seem like they’d be fun, to some extent.[/quote]

There are a few people I would like to shoot at too.

Unfortunately, society has deemed that to be unacceptable.

Spoilsports.

I would not know how to get rid of a few kilos of cocaine.

Weed, definitely, and if I have to do it alone. [/quote]

Society has deemed a lot of things unacceptable that should by no means have ever been that way, not to say that delighting in mass murder of people one dislikes should be accepted, but even something as simple as fisticuffs for the sake of it is regarded as some kind of intolerable legal “sin”. A slap on the wrist and being sent home for the night maybe, a jail sentence and a criminal record, no.

I’m sure it’s not overly hard to learn, assuming one has their wits about them. It’s the fundamentals of business compiled into it’s own sub-branch, a largely inefficient and risky one, but basic business nonetheless. I know a few who may or may not have dealt in expensive white powders and oily juices to a reasonable degree of success (although possibly not up to full kilogram bags), and I’m almost certain that none of them hold a summa cum laude in business ventures.

The other, more viable options, are child’s play to trade around. All I would have needed were a few weeks of trading Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon cards as a kid and I could be set for my teenage years. Perhaps in a few years when such substances are no longer taboo, and we draw ourselves at least a little closer to rationality, these Pokemon cards will be replaced with local strains and novelty bongs.

If the mainstream rap “icons” of this day and age can brag about their proficiencies there, I must assume that there is hope for us all.[/quote]

Does it really have to be mass murder?

What was wrong with duels?

Why cant two gentleman not adress their grievances with a civil and perfectly polite duell at & o clock in the park of their choosing?

We would live in such a polite and civil society, it would be a mild form of eugenics too.

At least when it comes to hand eye coordination. [/quote]

When I think rap-stereotype shootings I don’t think gentlemanly duels, that was likely my reasoning behind “mass murder”

Duels I can deal with, perhaps a little more extreme than a bare knuckle fist-fight, but respectable nonetheless.

Can’t help but think that there’s an advantage for the natural early birds there, or just an incentive to fall asleep at a reasonable hour. If most arrogant, obnoxious men with a false sense of security were under an accepted code when faced with a duel, perhaps there would be less arrogant, obnoxious men.[/quote]

Yeah, there would be.

Dead serious about duells too.

Though, early in the morning is kind of traditional, you could do it at high noon too.

Would also be more American.

[/quote]

I also like the idea of organised duels, as a sort of Hemingway/Roosevelt ideal. Even though his life turned to shit by consequence, you can’t fault Aaron Burr for being the better duelist.

Oh boo American. Let’s not forget the moustached, monocled, bowler hatted delightful old Englishmen who led the flintlock production lines way back when. Although I imagine a modern duel would be quite strange, I can’t imagine a single-shot agreeable circumstance with a glock, nor an old six-shooter for that matter.[/quote]

You have no sense of tradition.

You cannot have a proper duel with an Ak 47, or a semi auto pistol for that matter.

You, or rather your second, needs to stuff the gun powder in there, then a ball, than a wad of paper so that it does not fall out and after having it safely secured by stuffing it all in, you each get your shot.

BTW, you shoot sideways, right arm straight out, that way they dont shoot you in the heart.

Or the balls.

The last part gets never mentionend though, it just seems to be a natural coincidence of protecting your heart.

Anyhow, a proper duell is a slow, solemn affair, if you were to spray your honorable opponent with a hail of bullets, you would practically be a gangbanger.

The ritualized, formalized violence is kind of the idea. [/quote]

If it seems like stuffy British humour, it most assuredly is. I would not take such a silly idea to be so literal.

Thinking of it, it seems the left-handers get buggered in this scenario also, I do not hesitate to think that I would be down within the first contest at this rate.

Even if the idea were really to be entertained for a second time, I have a hard time believing most men would go quietly along with it. If there’s one spoilt rich child who has even a whisper of a chance to be leaded posthaste between the eyes by his own accord, to avoid a life of shame and hatred (at the very least more shame and hatred), I expect his dollar bills to be flung wildly towards the opposite direction.

A fist needs no reasonable preparation time, and faces no grand interference on it’s way to from setup to collision, even if we should have to rely on those, I remain pleased to see them come. And at least then the target is cognizant come the aftermath.
[/quote]

Fists are pedestrian, and they usually dont kill you.

Well, neither did duels, but they might ?

I like the idea of a man being held responsible if he runs his mouth or puts his dick where it does not belong.

The idea of another man shooting at you tends to add much clarity to otherwise muddled thoughts.

But, what really makes me like the idea are the multitudes of obnoxious loudmouths that would all fall silent if they were publicly expected to back it up.

Seriously, that is an ancient cultural technique that needs a renaissance.

We ditched it for no good reason.
[/quote]

Fist fighting is most definitely less of a risk of fatality for the losing party, whether that’s a good or a bad thing I’m not entirely sure.

I do also, but the internet laid waste to the consistency of that, for every man that is put in his place, one thousand more get away scot-free.

I’d wager that it also adds a hell of a lot of muddled thoughts.

Or fall silent if they were swiftly shot.

I would enjoy seeing some people fall victim to a duel, even if they should be left with just a flesh wound.

Maybe one day when all the hydrogen bombs are bouncing around the Earth we can get back to our brutish, ruthless, competitive nature. At least we still have boxing, if that were to go I would not know what to do.

[quote]PJS2010 wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Facepalm_Death wrote:
Macklemore’s flow is pretty sloppy imo. Its actually kinda a disgrace because a lot of underground hip hop in seattle is pretty nasty, but none of these artists like common market and blue scholars got the same exposure. Scion from Common Market prolly has the most precise effortless flow i’ve heard:

song starts at 1:25

[/quote]

I only know the one thrift shop song from him. Its played every freaking time im at the gym, and i’d agree he sounds sloppy and uninspired. Not very clever at all. [/quote]

Listen to the heist most of the songs are completely different to thrift shop and a lot better. [/quote]

Eh, i dont really like hip hop, period. Mostly guys who knew someone and came from family/friends with money (proper marketing can literally make anyone a star) and the ones that arent are just guys who can come up with clever rhymes and got lucky. Hard for me to consider much of it art.

[quote]orion wrote:

But, what really makes me like the idea are the multitudes of obnoxious loudmouths that would all fall silent if they were publicly expected to back it up.

[/quote]

The flip side is–at least with swords–it gives total dickheads who are really good with the sword license to be a total dickheads. I cite the movie Rob Roy as an example. Although, god damn, it sure was satisfying when Tim Roth eventually got stuck in the belly.

This guy is the king of not looking like he sounds:

[quote]stefan128 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
J. Cole is great, but his future isn’t bright if he can’t get off the same lines. He says the same things a lot. If he stays fresh and keeps up with the beats he chooses for major releases he should go places. I like that his mix tape shit as well.

Jon Connor has a bright future as well… I’m excited to see what he does with it.

That Rigamortis song, kinda sucks to be honest. But the Rittz track is good, different but I like it. [/quote]

Beans, if you don’t mind me asking, how old are you? I feel like you’re in your late 30’s, early forties and you listen to rap, which I find funny. Haha, not a knock on you or anything…[/quote]

I’m 33, and I grew up listening to rap. Public Enemy got solid rotation in my early childhood. Add in some Liquid Swords, Gravediggas, Onyx… Cyprus Hill…

I’m not offended by what you said, but it is funny you find it funny…

I’m just not interested in anyone new. Which might be a good thing. Because it’s made me explore different kinds of music.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]stefan128 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
J. Cole is great, but his future isn’t bright if he can’t get off the same lines. He says the same things a lot. If he stays fresh and keeps up with the beats he chooses for major releases he should go places. I like that his mix tape shit as well.

Jon Connor has a bright future as well… I’m excited to see what he does with it.

That Rigamortis song, kinda sucks to be honest. But the Rittz track is good, different but I like it. [/quote]

Beans, if you don’t mind me asking, how old are you? I feel like you’re in your late 30’s, early forties and you listen to rap, which I find funny. Haha, not a knock on you or anything…[/quote]

I’m 33, and I grew up listening to rap. Public Enemy got solid rotation in my early childhood. Add in some Liquid Swords, Gravediggas, Onyx… Cyprus Hill…

I’m not offended by what you said, but it is funny you find it funny… [/quote]

I am not offended by what he said either…but I do find it strange he thinks like that and said it.

Most of the rap I hear lately is coming from the cars of white guys. Maybe Houston is ahead of these other corners of the world.

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

Talk about voice not matching appearance.[/quote]

I liked this.

Is it just me or does macklemore make a lot of breathy type sounds with his mouth? It aggravates me

I liked thrift shop at first…but every other song of his shows that he can’t actually rhyme…and without rhyming It just sounds like an angry poet.

I don’t get how some people can become so popular with music that seemingly anyone could…“just yell into the mic like you mean it and Tell us about how you grew up”

[quote]carbiduis wrote:
Is it just me or does macklemore make a lot of breathy type sounds with his mouth? It aggravates me

I liked thrift shop at first…but every other song of his shows that he can’t actually rhyme…and without rhyming It just sounds like an angry poet.

I don’t get how some people can become so popular with music that seemingly anyone could…“just yell into the mic like you mean it and Tell us about how you grew up”[/quote]

First, I don’t even listen to radio…so my guess is that one song is getting overly played.

That is not one of the ones I even like off his cd. Make the money is better than that.

My advice would be to listen to radio way less. I seriously doubt the radio is doing anything but playing whatever gets them the most marketing.

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

I don’t get how some people can become so popular with music that seemingly anyone could…“just yell into the mic like you mean it and Tell us about how you grew up”[/quote]

Way to describe nearly every single modern hip-hop/rap artist.

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

I don’t get how some people can become so popular with music that seemingly anyone could…“just yell into the mic like you mean it and Tell us about how you grew up”[/quote]

Way to describe nearly every single modern hip-hop/rap artist. [/quote]

…POORLY.

If that was all it really took to be a good rapper, you could earn a few million real quick.

Also, there is a big difference between “ring tone” rapers and someone really considered an artist.

Nas is an artist. You aren’t doing what he does without some level of talent and skill.

Do people here actually listen to the radio in majority?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Do people here actually listen to the radio in majority?[/quote]
Does ESPN count?

I listen to the Buzz here in town BECAUSE long story I dont have the Sirius in my new car.

But mostly its just ESPN lately.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Do people here actually listen to the radio in majority?[/quote]

I’m an admitted sucker for a pop song with a catchy hook or handful of good bars and a decent beat, however when I’m looking for more than passing the time music, I go beyond the radio.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

I don’t get how some people can become so popular with music that seemingly anyone could…“just yell into the mic like you mean it and Tell us about how you grew up”[/quote]

Way to describe nearly every single modern hip-hop/rap artist. [/quote]

…POORLY.

If that was all it really took to be a good rapper, you could earn a few million real quick.

Also, there is a big difference between “ring tone” rapers and someone really considered an artist.

Nas is an artist. You aren’t doing what he does without some level of talent and skill.[/quote]

No, the difference is i dont know anyone. Thats it. really.

If Lil wayne has a friend who wants to be a rapper, a member of his “posse” lets say, all he has to do is let this guy shout for 20 seconds in one of his songs and say his rap name a bunch of times, and BAM new rap career started.

Did i say ALL rappers were talentless and uninspired? No. But in my opinion, which i am entitled to, most are.

Nas is an exception, you are correct. Im mostly familiar with him from my love of Damien Marley (who i would consider a fantastic hip hop/rap artist) but there is no denying that guy has quite a bit of talent.

And since you believe it relevant, no im not much of a radio listener. I listen to satellite radio in my truck now and then if im bored of all the music on my phone but even that is annoyingly difficult to find anything good.

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
I listen to satellite radio in my truck now and then if im bored of all the music on my phone but even that is annoyingly difficult to find anything good. [/quote]

I, over the last couple years, have established a decent Pandora station. It is really worth the investment if you listen a lot because they pick stuff you end up liking if you put the effort in to up and down vote things you like.

Mine ends up being a good mix of classic hip-hop, some r&b and some modern pop stuff too.

I have a metal and a “mood” station too.

I recently listened to Jay-z’s Pandora station on the way back from NYC and it was pretty decent to be honest. COuld have used some more variety but it was pretty good.