I can see it. I have long legs and a short trunk, therefore i wind up with more forward lean to keep my balance on a closer stance squat. So the higher the bar the less leverage you have to keep your back straight.
I would say work on your core and or technique so you can front squat for your quad development and do wider stance/low bar squats for you posterior development.
What’s wrong with glute development? Not that I’m at a point to experience “too big” of anything, but I would think that assuming you are developing everything it would be better to have them than not. Seeing as Ronnie has built his glutes big enough to squat 800 lbs, he isn’t afraid of a big ass (nor does he have one, compared to the rest of his body)
I’ve also never felt like back squats don’t work my quads enough haha
Having hurt my lower back from back squatting twice. My mistakes were not accepting how weak I really was and working with a weight that would actually make my legs stronger and bigger instead of causing injury to my lower back. For me that required me to drop the weight, increasing the reps and understanding that the low bar squat is about lifting the maximal weight in a squat and not necessarily the best for working out your legs compared to a high bar squat.
In both squat versions you keep your feet flat on the ground and arch your lower back for safety reasons. In the low bar squat you try to keep your shins as perpendicular to the floor as possible to allow maximal recruitment of the hamstrings, glutes and lower back in addition to your quads to lift the weight. In the high bar squat you let your knees track over your foot allowing you to keep torso more up right minimizing the shear strain your lower back encounters and that its more of a quad exercise. Work on ab, lat and upper back strength for stability and ankle and hip mobility by stretching calves and hip flexors.
If your suffering from lower back pain read lower back savers by eric cressy and I would put in the effort to learn how to front squat correctly.
Low Bar is a legitimate Powerlifting technique, so no.
[quote]xjusticex2013x wrote:
Low Bar is a legitimate Powerlifting technique, so no. [/quote]
Bodybuilding forum…
[quote]Sharp4850 wrote:
[quote]xjusticex2013x wrote:
Low Bar is a legitimate Powerlifting technique, so no. [/quote]
Bodybuilding forum…[/quote]
Guess I should stop posting for the next decade or so then…
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
[quote]Sharp4850 wrote:
[quote]xjusticex2013x wrote:
Low Bar is a legitimate Powerlifting technique, so no. [/quote]
Bodybuilding forum…[/quote]
Guess I should stop posting for the next decade or so then…[/quote]
My point is that something that is legitimate for powerlifting isn’t automatically legitimate for bodybuilding purposes. Not saying that it can’t work, because it most certainly can. But you have to experiment with something on your own rather than just make the assumption that it will work for bodybuilding because it’s legit in powerlifting (not a statement directed at you, as you clearly know what works for you, but toward the general population).
i put the bar low on my back because its not comfortable up high… i do have a relatively large ass and thighs… makes finding jeans to fit a bit of a pain…
[quote]ty_ty13 wrote:
i put the bar low on my back because its not comfortable up high… i do have a relatively large ass and thighs… makes finding jeans to fit a bit of a pain…[/quote]
Welcome to lifting weights.
And it’s safe to say that more often than not that the majority of powerlifting techniques have their place in bodybuilding routines, so to automatically discard it because it’s used by powerlifters is rather preemptive and assuming. For example, if you only squat narrow stance, to get big quads…you will likely end up with weak hips, which can lead to injury. Wide stance squatting with a low bar position could help remedy that. That’s just one example of how it could serve bodybuilding purposes. Likewise, long limbed people often don’t need to stop squatting, but just spread their stance out, once again requiring a low bar position.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
[quote]ty_ty13 wrote:
i put the bar low on my back because its not comfortable up high… i do have a relatively large ass and thighs… makes finding jeans to fit a bit of a pain…[/quote]
Welcome to lifting weights.
And it’s safe to say that more often than not that the majority of powerlifting techniques have their place in bodybuilding routines, so to automatically discard it because it’s used by powerlifters is rather preemptive and assuming. For example, if you only squat narrow stance, to get big quads…you will likely end up with weak hips, which can lead to injury. Wide stance squatting with a low bar position could help remedy that. That’s just one example of how it could serve bodybuilding purposes. Likewise, long limbed people often don’t need to stop squatting, but just spread their stance out, once again requiring a low bar position. [/quote]
Right on. I don’t want to make it sound like I was dismissing them because it’s a PL technique (I squat low bar), but rather that I’m against the opposite end of the spectrum.
[quote]Sharp4850 wrote:
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
[quote]ty_ty13 wrote:
i put the bar low on my back because its not comfortable up high… i do have a relatively large ass and thighs… makes finding jeans to fit a bit of a pain…[/quote]
Welcome to lifting weights.
And it’s safe to say that more often than not that the majority of powerlifting techniques have their place in bodybuilding routines, so to automatically discard it because it’s used by powerlifters is rather preemptive and assuming. For example, if you only squat narrow stance, to get big quads…you will likely end up with weak hips, which can lead to injury. Wide stance squatting with a low bar position could help remedy that. That’s just one example of how it could serve bodybuilding purposes. Likewise, long limbed people often don’t need to stop squatting, but just spread their stance out, once again requiring a low bar position. [/quote]
Right on. I don’t want to make it sound like I was dismissing them because it’s a PL technique (I squat low bar), but rather that I’m against the opposite end of the spectrum. [/quote]
K, we’re good then. As long as you were just playing devil’s advocate…I do that all the time myself lol.
[quote]Sharp4850 wrote:
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
[quote]Sharp4850 wrote:
[quote]xjusticex2013x wrote:
Low Bar is a legitimate Powerlifting technique, so no. [/quote]
Bodybuilding forum…[/quote]
Guess I should stop posting for the next decade or so then…[/quote]
My point is that something that is legitimate for powerlifting isn’t automatically legitimate for bodybuilding purposes. Not saying that it can’t work, because it most certainly can. But you have to experiment with something on your own rather than just make the assumption that it will work for bodybuilding because it’s legit in powerlifting (not a statement directed at you, as you clearly know what works for you, but toward the general population).[/quote]
Oh yeah, I forgot. My bad, you have a good point…
I worded this thread wrong to begin with. I should have said something like- Do you guys post your squat numbers assuming everybody low bars or if more people actually high bar it.
As far as quad development/targeting- I can use a much heavier weight low bar (I’m 6’1" and thin) than I can high bar. That being said, more stress is put on my main movers (quads) because more weight is used and I keep a narrow stance. I’m doing my hypers and good mornings because my low back is still holding back my squat. I lift for strength as much as I do for aesthetics. I use a leg press with a higher rep range after I pre fatigue my quads with light extensions for my quad development. And yes I dead and quite well due to my long arms.
And there is less stress on my lower back because of the lesser forward lean at the bottom of the movement. Sorry Bonez I shoulda explained myself better.
[quote]dnlcdstn wrote:
I worded this thread wrong to begin with. I should have said something like- Do you guys post your squat numbers assuming everybody low bars or if more people actually high bar it.
As far as quad development/targeting- I can use a much heavier weight low bar (I’m 6’1" and thin) than I can high bar. That being said, more stress is put on my main movers (quads) because more weight is used and I keep a narrow stance. I’m doing my hypers and good mornings because my low back is still holding back my squat. I lift for strength as much as I do for aesthetics. I use a leg press with a higher rep range after I pre fatigue my quads with light extensions for my quad development. And yes I dead and quite well due to my long arms.
And there is less stress on my lower back because of the lesser forward lean at the bottom of the movement. Sorry Bonez I shoulda explained myself better.
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In light of this, it’s just whatever’s comfortable for you. Don’t think I’ve ever seen people differentiating between high and low bar in terms of their PRs etc. As long as you’re hitting depth, back squats are back squats.