Louie Simmons....WTF?

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Tom, where are you in practice? I’m an ART doc myself in Ohio, worked at the Rev3 (Ironman distance) at Cedar Point over the summer, and I was shocked by the amount of people who finished but looked like they would keel over if they tried even a .5 bw squat, Ironman is just a totally different type of training.

That being said, powerlifting, crossfitting, oly, endurance, what have you, I think it’s obvious that either is better than neither, so I’m not sure why we’re having the debate on what’s best, set your goals, post them, hold yourself (or get someone to hold you) accountable and accomplish them.

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[quote]Theface wrote:
Tom, where are you in practice? I’m an ART doc myself in Ohio, worked at the Rev3 (Ironman distance) at Cedar Point over the summer, and I was shocked by the amount of people who finished but looked like they would keel over if they tried even a .5 bw squat, Ironman is just a totally different type of training.

That being said, powerlifting, crossfitting, oly, endurance, what have you, I think it’s obvious that either is better than neither, so I’m not sure why we’re having the debate on what’s best, set your goals, post them, hold yourself (or get someone to hold you) accountable and accomplish them.[/quote]

why are you missing the point? I’m talking overall HEALTH. Are you seriously arguing that an activity like powerlifting is healthier over the long term than crossfitting, other things being equal? Seriously? Why is my point so hard to understand? This isn’t a debate about “what’s best”…it was a remark about crossfitting and health.

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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

Its not just about the hardness, its about the movement of the cock. And Girth. [/quote]
Yeah, I guess you’re right. My cock, although iron-hard and upright, just sits there.
Your point is similar to the old adage: “It’s not the size of the cock, it’s the motion in the hen house”.[/quote]

okay, now that i have a vested interest - ARE YOU WORKING??? LOL

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

Its not just about the hardness, its about the movement of the cock. And Girth. [/quote]
Yeah, I guess you’re right. My cock, although iron-hard and upright, just sits there.
Your point is similar to the old adage: “It’s not the size of the cock, it’s the motion in the hen house”.[/quote]

okay, now that i have a vested interest - ARE YOU WORKING??? LOL
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He has the luxury of working from home. While some of us have to go to an office.

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

Its not just about the hardness, its about the movement of the cock. And Girth. [/quote]
Yeah, I guess you’re right. My cock, although iron-hard and upright, just sits there.
Your point is similar to the old adage: “It’s not the size of the cock, it’s the motion in the hen house”.[/quote]

okay, now that i have a vested interest - ARE YOU WORKING??? LOL
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He has the luxury of working from home. While some of us have to go to an office. [/quote]

Yes, gentlemen. I AM working (in fact I have a MuscleMag deadline I’m on today). But I keep T-Nation up in the background and just check in between pieces of this project.

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All this cock talk…

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[quote]Hallowed wrote:
All this cock talk…[/quote]

Well isnt that a pretty pussy.

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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

Its not just about the hardness, its about the movement of the cock. And Girth. [/quote]
Yeah, I guess you’re right. My cock, although iron-hard and upright, just sits there.
Your point is similar to the old adage: “It’s not the size of the cock, it’s the motion in the hen house”.[/quote]

okay, now that i have a vested interest - ARE YOU WORKING??? LOL
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He has the luxury of working from home. While some of us have to go to an office. [/quote]

Yes, gentlemen. I AM working (in fact I have a MuscleMag deadline I’m on today). But I keep T-Nation up in the background and just check in between pieces of this project.
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So ID when you have a project like this what kind of time line do you have? Just curious. Do you ever have a problem with not getting inspired? Drawers block? Do you find yourself procrastinating? Or are you a get it done and move on type of guy?

Threw in picture of recent addition to family.

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[quote]Hallowed wrote:
All this cock talk…[/quote]

Here kitty kitty.

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Theface wrote:
Tom, where are you in practice? I’m an ART doc myself in Ohio, worked at the Rev3 (Ironman distance) at Cedar Point over the summer, and I was shocked by the amount of people who finished but looked like they would keel over if they tried even a .5 bw squat, Ironman is just a totally different type of training.

That being said, powerlifting, crossfitting, oly, endurance, what have you, I think it’s obvious that either is better than neither, so I’m not sure why we’re having the debate on what’s best, set your goals, post them, hold yourself (or get someone to hold you) accountable and accomplish them.[/quote]

why are you missing the point? I’m talking overall HEALTH. Are you seriously arguing that an activity like powerlifting is healthier over the long term than crossfitting, other things being equal? Seriously? Why is my point so hard to understand? This isn’t a debate about “what’s best”…it was a remark about crossfitting and health. [/quote]

TBG- not arguing with you…or are you just being contrary to anything anyone says? I completely understand your point, but you two are taking up positions: One saying powerlifting, you saying crossfitting, regardless of if or if not it’s a “what’s best” argument, you two are discussing, which of the two workout styles is better for overall health.

That was the point of my statement, to do what you want, id what you’re striving for, and then work to get it, whether that goal be good health or having a 1500+ total. I’d rather have people doing any form of physical activity than to sit around and eventually be a burden to society via lifestyle diseases.

Besides, I’m with you, I’ve been dabbling in the crossfit from time to time, especially on days where I have a limited time to warm up, work out and shower. From a general physical fitness standpoint, I agree, crossfit is better than powerlifting.

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Has Jesus weighed in yet on this topic (whatever the topic has become)? I find his insight refreshing in these sinful times we live in. My sin is sloth, as I refuse to look through the previous 10 pages for a Jesus post.

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Theface wrote:
Tom, where are you in practice? I’m an ART doc myself in Ohio, worked at the Rev3 (Ironman distance) at Cedar Point over the summer, and I was shocked by the amount of people who finished but looked like they would keel over if they tried even a .5 bw squat, Ironman is just a totally different type of training.

That being said, powerlifting, crossfitting, oly, endurance, what have you, I think it’s obvious that either is better than neither, so I’m not sure why we’re having the debate on what’s best, set your goals, post them, hold yourself (or get someone to hold you) accountable and accomplish them.[/quote]

why are you missing the point? I’m talking overall HEALTH. Are you seriously arguing that an activity like powerlifting is healthier over the long term than crossfitting, other things being equal? Seriously? Why is my point so hard to understand? This isn’t a debate about “what’s best”…it was a remark about crossfitting and health. [/quote]

Again, health is different than these physical activities. Crossfit seems like whatever you want it to be. Running beats me up more than lifting as long as I watch certain exercises. Heavy deadlifts don’t do anything negative to me.

Chins, presses, benches are out due to a torn labrum. And it had nothing to do with lifting, it was from a car accident. Walking, prowler pushes, a stair machine or rower all are options.

To me crossfit is a made up thing taking in multiple components that people train for. And that’s great. Nothing wrong with that, but back in the day we just called it being active. Which I still am.

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[quote]Theface wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Theface wrote:
Tom, where are you in practice? I’m an ART doc myself in Ohio, worked at the Rev3 (Ironman distance) at Cedar Point over the summer, and I was shocked by the amount of people who finished but looked like they would keel over if they tried even a .5 bw squat, Ironman is just a totally different type of training.

That being said, powerlifting, crossfitting, oly, endurance, what have you, I think it’s obvious that either is better than neither, so I’m not sure why we’re having the debate on what’s best, set your goals, post them, hold yourself (or get someone to hold you) accountable and accomplish them.[/quote]

why are you missing the point? I’m talking overall HEALTH. Are you seriously arguing that an activity like powerlifting is healthier over the long term than crossfitting, other things being equal? Seriously? Why is my point so hard to understand? This isn’t a debate about “what’s best”…it was a remark about crossfitting and health. [/quote]

TBG- not arguing with you…or are you just being contrary to anything anyone says? I completely understand your point, but you two are taking up positions: One saying powerlifting, you saying crossfitting, regardless of if or if not it’s a “what’s best” argument, you two are discussing, which of the two workout styles is better for overall health.

That was the point of my statement, to do what you want, id what you’re striving for, and then work to get it, whether that goal be good health or having a 1500+ total. I’d rather have people doing any form of physical activity than to sit around and eventually be a burden to society via lifestyle diseases.

Besides, I’m with you, I’ve been dabbling in the crossfit from time to time, especially on days where I have a limited time to warm up, work out and shower. From a general physical fitness standpoint, I agree, crossfit is better than powerlifting.[/quote]

I’m not saying powerlifting or crossfit is better to maintain and increase your health. My opinion is first do no harm, the second, do something. but you don’t need to do much to improve your health workout wise. I mean long term increase in longevity and quality of life as you age.

IMO, exercise people overrate the importance of exercise for your health compared to other things. Regular activity is needed. Controlling weight is important. Not abusing alcohol and not smoking might be more important.

For activity, do what you can and what you like. Just walking is better than just talking about what is optimal or bemoaning the fact that you can’t do a particular activity.

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

So ID when you have a project like this what kind of time line do you have? Just curious. Do you ever have a problem with not getting inspired? Drawers block? Do you find yourself procrastinating? Or are you a get it done and move on type of guy?

Threw in picture of recent addition to family. [/quote]

When I get the Muscle Bites assignment (20 spot illustrations per issue), I get a 2 week deadline. But I often have one or 2 other projects from other clients simultaneously. I might do the first 4 spots for the Bites, then move onto a larger project with a tighter deadline before coming back to finish the Bites in the days just before deadline.

Cute little pup there, D!

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If you want to live for a long time you’re going to have to be fairly sedentary etc… just being active in your daily life. Thats why you have vegan people etc… living into their 90s etc… their bodies don’t get abused or use any energy. I’m soon to be 22 and i’m practically crippled with my knees and right shoulder… but I would never trade it for anything. You do anything strenuous for a long time and it will take its toll.

But as far as what you guys are disputing… i’m with TBG.

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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

So ID when you have a project like this what kind of time line do you have? Just curious. Do you ever have a problem with not getting inspired? Drawers block? Do you find yourself procrastinating? Or are you a get it done and move on type of guy?

Threw in picture of recent addition to family. [/quote]

When I get the Muscle Bites assignment (20 spot illustrations per issue), I get a 2 week deadline. But I often have one or 2 other projects from other clients simultaneously. I might do the first 4 spots for the Bites, then move onto a larger project with a tighter deadline before coming back to finish the Bites in the days just before deadline.

Cute little pup there, D!
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So you pretty much have daily assignments to work on a continous basis. So do you ever get artistic block? Included the wifes dog at halloween. Cracks me up.

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

So ID when you have a project like this what kind of time line do you have? Just curious. Do you ever have a problem with not getting inspired? Drawers block? Do you find yourself procrastinating? Or are you a get it done and move on type of guy?

Threw in picture of recent addition to family. [/quote]

When I get the Muscle Bites assignment (20 spot illustrations per issue), I get a 2 week deadline. But I often have one or 2 other projects from other clients simultaneously. I might do the first 4 spots for the Bites, then move onto a larger project with a tighter deadline before coming back to finish the Bites in the days just before deadline.

Cute little pup there, D!
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So you pretty much have daily assignments to work on a continous basis. So do you ever get artistic block? Included the wifes dog at halloween. Cracks me up. [/quote]

HAHA! That pic is golden!

It’s strange, but I DID address the creative block question (as an edit) but it didn’t stick.

Yes, I DO get creative block very often. That’s to be expected when I’m contracted to do 240 spot illustrations per year for MuscleMag. But I always manage to pull through. In the past 7 years doing work for MM, they’ve only asked me once to redraw something.

And yes, I do have a daily schedule of assignments to work on. I do occasionally get a day where I have nothing to do, and it’s a welcome break!

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[quote]tom63 wrote:

[quote]Theface wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Theface wrote:
Tom, where are you in practice? I’m an ART doc myself in Ohio, worked at the Rev3 (Ironman distance) at Cedar Point over the summer, and I was shocked by the amount of people who finished but looked like they would keel over if they tried even a .5 bw squat, Ironman is just a totally different type of training.

That being said, powerlifting, crossfitting, oly, endurance, what have you, I think it’s obvious that either is better than neither, so I’m not sure why we’re having the debate on what’s best, set your goals, post them, hold yourself (or get someone to hold you) accountable and accomplish them.[/quote]

why are you missing the point? I’m talking overall HEALTH. Are you seriously arguing that an activity like powerlifting is healthier over the long term than crossfitting, other things being equal? Seriously? Why is my point so hard to understand? This isn’t a debate about “what’s best”…it was a remark about crossfitting and health. [/quote]

TBG- not arguing with you…or are you just being contrary to anything anyone says? I completely understand your point, but you two are taking up positions: One saying powerlifting, you saying crossfitting, regardless of if or if not it’s a “what’s best” argument, you two are discussing, which of the two workout styles is better for overall health.

That was the point of my statement, to do what you want, id what you’re striving for, and then work to get it, whether that goal be good health or having a 1500+ total. I’d rather have people doing any form of physical activity than to sit around and eventually be a burden to society via lifestyle diseases.

Besides, I’m with you, I’ve been dabbling in the crossfit from time to time, especially on days where I have a limited time to warm up, work out and shower. From a general physical fitness standpoint, I agree, crossfit is better than powerlifting.[/quote]

I’m not saying powerlifting or crossfit is better to maintain and increase your health. My opinion is first do no harm, the second, do something. but you don’t need to do much to improve your health workout wise. I mean long term increase in longevity and quality of life as you age.

IMO, exercise people overrate the importance of exercise for your health compared to other things. Regular activity is needed. Controlling weight is important. Not abusing alcohol and not smoking might be more important.

For activity, do what you can and what you like. Just walking is better than just talking about what is optimal or bemoaning the fact that you can’t do a particular activity.[/quote]

As far as quality of life vs. longevity, I’m going to second that cross fitters would do pretty well to help maintain muscle mass/lean mass, strength levels, bone density, blood lipids, and cardiovascular health. Other programs can do all these things too - but competing as an elite powerlifter will not give you the same benefits. And I’d rather have quality life than simply be living…

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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

So ID when you have a project like this what kind of time line do you have? Just curious. Do you ever have a problem with not getting inspired? Drawers block? Do you find yourself procrastinating? Or are you a get it done and move on type of guy?

Threw in picture of recent addition to family. [/quote]

When I get the Muscle Bites assignment (20 spot illustrations per issue), I get a 2 week deadline. But I often have one or 2 other projects from other clients simultaneously. I might do the first 4 spots for the Bites, then move onto a larger project with a tighter deadline before coming back to finish the Bites in the days just before deadline.

Cute little pup there, D!
[/quote]

So you pretty much have daily assignments to work on a continous basis. So do you ever get artistic block? Included the wifes dog at halloween. Cracks me up. [/quote]

HAHA! That pic is golden!

It’s strange, but I DID address the creative block question (as an edit) but it didn’t stick.

Yes, I DO get creative block very often. That’s to be expected when I’m contracted to do 240 spot illustrations per year for MuscleMag. But I always manage to pull through. In the past 7 years doing work for MM, they’ve only asked me once to redraw something.

And yes, I do have a daily schedule of assignments to work on. I do occasionally get a day where I have nothing to do, and it’s a welcome break!
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You dont have to answer these questions ID, just always interests me. So how do you get through the block? The way my mind works I have to work something until I cant work it no more then it either works or I throw it away and move on. If I had no choice but to keep working through it I would go crazy.