http://articles.elitefts.com/articles/training-articles/from-fat-ass-to-bad-ass/
Here you go BG.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]tom63 wrote:
First, what people want to for exercise is their business. But this concept of “all around fitness” is a misnomer. Fitness is the ability to do a task. Health is completely different. Exercise influenes it both in positive and negative ways. Diet can be a positive or negative. Mental outlook is important.
But a crossfit trainer is not necessarily more healthy than any other athlete. For example my cardio right now is okay. I normally walk with a weighted vest once or so a week. Strength is more my bag now. I’m almost at a 600 pound deadlift at 47 and 200 pounds. All around type of training would not get me to my current goal .
But if someone is into it, whatever. My son for instance is a wrestler who powerlifts. He lifts for increasing his strength, 5 3 1, and does his wrestling drills for his sport and cardio. [/quote]
I’m not sure I get your point. But I’d bet that average crossfitter is healthier than the average lifter, all things being equal, like diet. If you think walking with a vest once or so a week is equal to a regular regimen of cardio training, you’re wrong. At your (our) age, your deadlift is irrelevant. Your cardio health should take precedence. I’m guilty, but working on it. [/quote]
What do you mean healthier? Sure they would have better endurance, but crossfitters rarely train heavy. What makes someone with better endurance healthier than someone that can squat twice their bodyweight?
[quote]AmericanOutlaw13 wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]tom63 wrote:
First, what people want to for exercise is their business. But this concept of “all around fitness” is a misnomer. Fitness is the ability to do a task. Health is completely different. Exercise influenes it both in positive and negative ways. Diet can be a positive or negative. Mental outlook is important.
But a crossfit trainer is not necessarily more healthy than any other athlete. For example my cardio right now is okay. I normally walk with a weighted vest once or so a week. Strength is more my bag now. I’m almost at a 600 pound deadlift at 47 and 200 pounds. All around type of training would not get me to my current goal .
But if someone is into it, whatever. My son for instance is a wrestler who powerlifts. He lifts for increasing his strength, 5 3 1, and does his wrestling drills for his sport and cardio. [/quote]
I’m not sure I get your point. But I’d bet that average crossfitter is healthier than the average lifter, all things being equal, like diet. If you think walking with a vest once or so a week is equal to a regular regimen of cardio training, you’re wrong. At your (our) age, your deadlift is irrelevant. Your cardio health should take precedence. I’m guilty, but working on it. [/quote]
What do you mean healthier? Sure they would have better endurance, but crossfitters rarely train heavy. What makes someone with better endurance healthier than someone that can squat twice their bodyweight?[/quote]
You can’t be serious. Ask your doctor. Ask a cardiologist. Endurance is strongly correlated with heart health. Squatting twice your bodyweight is not an indicator of health. In fact, if you think heavy lifting is “healthy”, please show me all the “healthy lifters” after 20 years. Go ahead, I’ll wait. What you’ll find is back and joint problems by spades. I’m one of them.
For the record, I don’t think any competitive sport is necessarily “healthy”. The body is not made for repetitive stressful movement patterns over the long term. It usually always results in some type of long term injury or dysfunction. How old are you? Ever play a sport competitively?
[quote]AmericanOutlaw13 wrote:
What do you mean healthier? Sure they would have better endurance, but crossfitters rarely train heavy. What makes someone with better endurance healthier than someone that can squat twice their bodyweight?[/quote]
Whoa, I expected that you’d be around 20 but I did not expect that you were a “personal trainer”. Wow. So you think a better indicator of “healthy” is squatting twice your bodyweight rather than the person with better endurance. Seriously? Because I know too many guys that can squat twice bodyweight and better that aren’t very healthy.
[quote]AmericanOutlaw13 wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]tom63 wrote:
First, what people want to for exercise is their business. But this concept of “all around fitness” is a misnomer. Fitness is the ability to do a task. Health is completely different. Exercise influenes it both in positive and negative ways. Diet can be a positive or negative. Mental outlook is important.
But a crossfit trainer is not necessarily more healthy than any other athlete. For example my cardio right now is okay. I normally walk with a weighted vest once or so a week. Strength is more my bag now. I’m almost at a 600 pound deadlift at 47 and 200 pounds. All around type of training would not get me to my current goal .
But if someone is into it, whatever. My son for instance is a wrestler who powerlifts. He lifts for increasing his strength, 5 3 1, and does his wrestling drills for his sport and cardio. [/quote]
I’m not sure I get your point. But I’d bet that average crossfitter is healthier than the average lifter, all things being equal, like diet. If you think walking with a vest once or so a week is equal to a regular regimen of cardio training, you’re wrong. At your (our) age, your deadlift is irrelevant. Your cardio health should take precedence. I’m guilty, but working on it. [/quote]
What do you mean healthier? Sure they would have better endurance, but crossfitters rarely train heavy. What makes someone with better endurance healthier than someone that can squat twice their bodyweight?[/quote]
Exactly, health = cardiovascular endurance is not correct. Cardiovascular endurance contributes to health, but it is not the only factor. blood chemistry, which can be helped by diet IN MOST CASES, genetics, such as family longevity. strength etc., all play a part.
How much they all play in longevity? Can’t tell, especially with other factors involved.
My grandmother died at 93. Never smoked. Never drank more than a little wine. Worked on a farm etc. Didn’t over eat, but she never busted out a ten K, never did 10 chins, clean and jerks, or muscle ups. If she did, how long would she have lived? the answer is no one knows.
Once your weight and blood lipids are under control and as long as you stay active, you are getting the maximal benefits of exercise on your health. I don’t care what you do. i personally concentrate on strength the most, but do not ignore flexibility and mobility or cardio. I just don’t make it a priority.
Crossfit away. Do ten ks, powerlift, or whatever. Just do something. But you need to stay active for your health. Just don’t overestimate how much exercise is doing to increase your lifespan. the number one thing is long long people in your family live. My grandparents made it to their nineties, except for my one fat grandmother who had a brain tumor and subsequent stroke. She lived to be 87.
It’s the genes, then you not screwing it up mostly.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]AmericanOutlaw13 wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]tom63 wrote:
First, what people want to for exercise is their business. But this concept of “all around fitness” is a misnomer. Fitness is the ability to do a task. Health is completely different. Exercise influenes it both in positive and negative ways. Diet can be a positive or negative. Mental outlook is important.
But a crossfit trainer is not necessarily more healthy than any other athlete. For example my cardio right now is okay. I normally walk with a weighted vest once or so a week. Strength is more my bag now. I’m almost at a 600 pound deadlift at 47 and 200 pounds. All around type of training would not get me to my current goal .
But if someone is into it, whatever. My son for instance is a wrestler who powerlifts. He lifts for increasing his strength, 5 3 1, and does his wrestling drills for his sport and cardio. [/quote]
I’m not sure I get your point. But I’d bet that average crossfitter is healthier than the average lifter, all things being equal, like diet. If you think walking with a vest once or so a week is equal to a regular regimen of cardio training, you’re wrong. At your (our) age, your deadlift is irrelevant. Your cardio health should take precedence. I’m guilty, but working on it. [/quote]
What do you mean healthier? Sure they would have better endurance, but crossfitters rarely train heavy. What makes someone with better endurance healthier than someone that can squat twice their bodyweight?[/quote]
You can’t be serious. Ask your doctor. Ask a cardiologist. Endurance is strongly correlated with heart health. Squatting twice your bodyweight is not an indicator of health. In fact, if you think heavy lifting is “healthy”, please show me all the “healthy lifters” after 20 years. Go ahead, I’ll wait. What you’ll find is back and joint problems by spades. I’m one of them.
For the record, I don’t think any competitive sport is necessarily “healthy”. The body is not made for repetitive stressful movement patterns over the long term. It usually always results in some type of long term injury or dysfunction. How old are you? Ever play a sport competitively? [/quote]
Well I know plenty of “healthy” lifters. My gym is full of powerlifters that keep high GPP. I also wouldnt put healthy solely on cardiovascular endurance, I know plenty of “crossfitters” that treat their body’s like shit (food, alcohol, ect)
Im 20, and I’ve played sports my whole life, wrestling, football, lacrosse, soccer, basketball, baseball and some others… I love sports more than anything.
[quote]tom63 wrote:
[quote]AmericanOutlaw13 wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]tom63 wrote:
First, what people want to for exercise is their business. But this concept of “all around fitness” is a misnomer. Fitness is the ability to do a task. Health is completely different. Exercise influenes it both in positive and negative ways. Diet can be a positive or negative. Mental outlook is important.
But a crossfit trainer is not necessarily more healthy than any other athlete. For example my cardio right now is okay. I normally walk with a weighted vest once or so a week. Strength is more my bag now. I’m almost at a 600 pound deadlift at 47 and 200 pounds. All around type of training would not get me to my current goal .
But if someone is into it, whatever. My son for instance is a wrestler who powerlifts. He lifts for increasing his strength, 5 3 1, and does his wrestling drills for his sport and cardio. [/quote]
I’m not sure I get your point. But I’d bet that average crossfitter is healthier than the average lifter, all things being equal, like diet. If you think walking with a vest once or so a week is equal to a regular regimen of cardio training, you’re wrong. At your (our) age, your deadlift is irrelevant. Your cardio health should take precedence. I’m guilty, but working on it. [/quote]
What do you mean healthier? Sure they would have better endurance, but crossfitters rarely train heavy. What makes someone with better endurance healthier than someone that can squat twice their bodyweight?[/quote]
Exactly, health = cardiovascular endurance is not correct. Cardiovascular endurance contributes to health, but it is not the only factor. blood chemistry, which can be helped by diet IN MOST CASES, genetics, such as family longevity. strength etc., all play a part.
How much they all play in longevity? Can’t tell, especially with other factors involved.
My grandmother died at 93. Never smoked. Never drank more than a little wine. Worked on a farm etc. Didn’t over eat, but she never busted out a ten K, never did 10 chins, clean and jerks, or muscle ups. If she did, how long would she have lived? the answer is no one knows.
Once your weight and blood lipids are under control and as long as you stay active, you are getting the maximal benefits of exercise on your health. I don’t care what you do. i personally concentrate on strength the most, but do not ignore flexibility and mobility or cardio. I just don’t make it a priority.
Crossfit away. Do ten ks, powerlift, or whatever. Just do something. But you need to stay active for your health. Just don’t overestimate how much exercise is doing to increase your lifespan. the number one thing is long long people in your family live. My grandparents made it to their nineties, except for my one fat grandmother who had a brain tumor and subsequent stroke. She lived to be 87.
It’s the genes, then you not screwing it up mostly.[/quote]
I was reading some article a couple months ago about all these long distance runners dying really early because of the cardiovascular stress they’ve put on their bodies over and over.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]AmericanOutlaw13 wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]tom63 wrote:
First, what people want to for exercise is their business. But this concept of “all around fitness” is a misnomer. Fitness is the ability to do a task. Health is completely different. Exercise influenes it both in positive and negative ways. Diet can be a positive or negative. Mental outlook is important.
But a crossfit trainer is not necessarily more healthy than any other athlete. For example my cardio right now is okay. I normally walk with a weighted vest once or so a week. Strength is more my bag now. I’m almost at a 600 pound deadlift at 47 and 200 pounds. All around type of training would not get me to my current goal .
But if someone is into it, whatever. My son for instance is a wrestler who powerlifts. He lifts for increasing his strength, 5 3 1, and does his wrestling drills for his sport and cardio. [/quote]
I’m not sure I get your point. But I’d bet that average crossfitter is healthier than the average lifter, all things being equal, like diet. If you think walking with a vest once or so a week is equal to a regular regimen of cardio training, you’re wrong. At your (our) age, your deadlift is irrelevant. Your cardio health should take precedence. I’m guilty, but working on it. [/quote]
What do you mean healthier? Sure they would have better endurance, but crossfitters rarely train heavy. What makes someone with better endurance healthier than someone that can squat twice their bodyweight?[/quote]
You can’t be serious. Ask your doctor. Ask a cardiologist. Endurance is strongly correlated with heart health. Squatting twice your bodyweight is not an indicator of health. In fact, if you think heavy lifting is “healthy”, please show me all the “healthy lifters” after 20 years. Go ahead, I’ll wait. What you’ll find is back and joint problems by spades. I’m one of them.
For the record, I don’t think any competitive sport is necessarily “healthy”. The body is not made for repetitive stressful movement patterns over the long term. It usually always results in some type of long term injury or dysfunction. How old are you? Ever play a sport competitively? [/quote]
I am a chiropractor. and endurance people suffer from bad backs, knees, and hips also. You know how many people I see getting artificial knees from overdoing cardio? A lot.
Endurance is related to heart health, but it is not necessary to develop to the extent that some think. Just dropping ten pounds will on average produce a ten percent increase in VO2 max. Taking regular walks, doing something daily, and not getting fat go a long way.
[quote]AmericanOutlaw13 wrote:
[quote]tom63 wrote:
[quote]AmericanOutlaw13 wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]tom63 wrote:
First, what people want to for exercise is their business. But this concept of “all around fitness” is a misnomer. Fitness is the ability to do a task. Health is completely different. Exercise influenes it both in positive and negative ways. Diet can be a positive or negative. Mental outlook is important.
But a crossfit trainer is not necessarily more healthy than any other athlete. For example my cardio right now is okay. I normally walk with a weighted vest once or so a week. Strength is more my bag now. I’m almost at a 600 pound deadlift at 47 and 200 pounds. All around type of training would not get me to my current goal .
But if someone is into it, whatever. My son for instance is a wrestler who powerlifts. He lifts for increasing his strength, 5 3 1, and does his wrestling drills for his sport and cardio. [/quote]
I’m not sure I get your point. But I’d bet that average crossfitter is healthier than the average lifter, all things being equal, like diet. If you think walking with a vest once or so a week is equal to a regular regimen of cardio training, you’re wrong. At your (our) age, your deadlift is irrelevant. Your cardio health should take precedence. I’m guilty, but working on it. [/quote]
What do you mean healthier? Sure they would have better endurance, but crossfitters rarely train heavy. What makes someone with better endurance healthier than someone that can squat twice their bodyweight?[/quote]
Exactly, health = cardiovascular endurance is not correct. Cardiovascular endurance contributes to health, but it is not the only factor. blood chemistry, which can be helped by diet IN MOST CASES, genetics, such as family longevity. strength etc., all play a part.
How much they all play in longevity? Can’t tell, especially with other factors involved.
My grandmother died at 93. Never smoked. Never drank more than a little wine. Worked on a farm etc. Didn’t over eat, but she never busted out a ten K, never did 10 chins, clean and jerks, or muscle ups. If she did, how long would she have lived? the answer is no one knows.
Once your weight and blood lipids are under control and as long as you stay active, you are getting the maximal benefits of exercise on your health. I don’t care what you do. i personally concentrate on strength the most, but do not ignore flexibility and mobility or cardio. I just don’t make it a priority.
Crossfit away. Do ten ks, powerlift, or whatever. Just do something. But you need to stay active for your health. Just don’t overestimate how much exercise is doing to increase your lifespan. the number one thing is long long people in your family live. My grandparents made it to their nineties, except for my one fat grandmother who had a brain tumor and subsequent stroke. She lived to be 87.
It’s the genes, then you not screwing it up mostly.[/quote]
I was reading some article a couple months ago about all these long distance runners dying really early because of the cardiovascular stress they’ve put on their bodies over and over.[/quote]
I think one was Jim Fixx, died in his fifties running. Probably was found by a fat smoker.
Again, my grandmother didn’t work out, she worked into her 80s. Much was gardening and housecleaning, but she could work. She had a good mind until the day she died and was fit, as in capable of doing what she needed to do. Again, fitness is just the ability to do a task. What task? what task do you have in mind?
Can you do it well? then you’re fit.
[quote]tom63 wrote:
[quote]AmericanOutlaw13 wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]tom63 wrote:
First, what people want to for exercise is their business. But this concept of “all around fitness” is a misnomer. Fitness is the ability to do a task. Health is completely different. Exercise influenes it both in positive and negative ways. Diet can be a positive or negative. Mental outlook is important.
But a crossfit trainer is not necessarily more healthy than any other athlete. For example my cardio right now is okay. I normally walk with a weighted vest once or so a week. Strength is more my bag now. I’m almost at a 600 pound deadlift at 47 and 200 pounds. All around type of training would not get me to my current goal .
But if someone is into it, whatever. My son for instance is a wrestler who powerlifts. He lifts for increasing his strength, 5 3 1, and does his wrestling drills for his sport and cardio. [/quote]
I’m not sure I get your point. But I’d bet that average crossfitter is healthier than the average lifter, all things being equal, like diet. If you think walking with a vest once or so a week is equal to a regular regimen of cardio training, you’re wrong. At your (our) age, your deadlift is irrelevant. Your cardio health should take precedence. I’m guilty, but working on it. [/quote]
What do you mean healthier? Sure they would have better endurance, but crossfitters rarely train heavy. What makes someone with better endurance healthier than someone that can squat twice their bodyweight?[/quote]
Exactly, health = cardiovascular endurance is not correct. Cardiovascular endurance contributes to health, but it is not the only factor. blood chemistry, which can be helped by diet IN MOST CASES, genetics, such as family longevity. strength etc., all play a part.
How much they all play in longevity? Can’t tell, especially with other factors involved.
My grandmother died at 93. Never smoked. Never drank more than a little wine. Worked on a farm etc. Didn’t over eat, but she never busted out a ten K, never did 10 chins, clean and jerks, or muscle ups. If she did, how long would she have lived? the answer is no one knows.
Once your weight and blood lipids are under control and as long as you stay active, you are getting the maximal benefits of exercise on your health. I don’t care what you do. i personally concentrate on strength the most, but do not ignore flexibility and mobility or cardio. I just don’t make it a priority.
Crossfit away. Do ten ks, powerlift, or whatever. Just do something. But you need to stay active for your health. Just don’t overestimate how much exercise is doing to increase your lifespan. the number one thing is long long people in your family live. My grandparents made it to their nineties, except for my one fat grandmother who had a brain tumor and subsequent stroke. She lived to be 87.
It’s the genes, then you not screwing it up mostly.[/quote]
There is nothing disagreeable with the above, however, I think cardio health will trump what you can lift over the long term, other things being equal - the latter I said prior.
Obvious troll is obvious.
[quote]tom63 wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]AmericanOutlaw13 wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]tom63 wrote:
First, what people want to for exercise is their business. But this concept of “all around fitness” is a misnomer. Fitness is the ability to do a task. Health is completely different. Exercise influenes it both in positive and negative ways. Diet can be a positive or negative. Mental outlook is important.
But a crossfit trainer is not necessarily more healthy than any other athlete. For example my cardio right now is okay. I normally walk with a weighted vest once or so a week. Strength is more my bag now. I’m almost at a 600 pound deadlift at 47 and 200 pounds. All around type of training would not get me to my current goal .
But if someone is into it, whatever. My son for instance is a wrestler who powerlifts. He lifts for increasing his strength, 5 3 1, and does his wrestling drills for his sport and cardio. [/quote]
I’m not sure I get your point. But I’d bet that average crossfitter is healthier than the average lifter, all things being equal, like diet. If you think walking with a vest once or so a week is equal to a regular regimen of cardio training, you’re wrong. At your (our) age, your deadlift is irrelevant. Your cardio health should take precedence. I’m guilty, but working on it. [/quote]
What do you mean healthier? Sure they would have better endurance, but crossfitters rarely train heavy. What makes someone with better endurance healthier than someone that can squat twice their bodyweight?[/quote]
You can’t be serious. Ask your doctor. Ask a cardiologist. Endurance is strongly correlated with heart health. Squatting twice your bodyweight is not an indicator of health. In fact, if you think heavy lifting is “healthy”, please show me all the “healthy lifters” after 20 years. Go ahead, I’ll wait. What you’ll find is back and joint problems by spades. I’m one of them.
For the record, I don’t think any competitive sport is necessarily “healthy”. The body is not made for repetitive stressful movement patterns over the long term. It usually always results in some type of long term injury or dysfunction. How old are you? Ever play a sport competitively? [/quote]
I am a chiropractor. and endurance people suffer from bad backs, knees, and hips also. You know how many people I see getting artificial knees from overdoing cardio? A lot.
Endurance is related to heart health, but it is not necessary to develop to the extent that some think. Just dropping ten pounds will on average produce a ten percent increase in VO2 max. Taking regular walks, doing something daily, and not getting fat go a long way.[/quote]
I believe a already stated nothing repetitive over time is good for us. I said cardio health, express in some form generic “endurance” - not to be compared with an endurance athlete or someone training in that fashion. Endurance can be the ability to walk a fucking mile without wheezing. I’m not taking running marathons and I’m not talking about people that abuse their bodies. All things being equal, I bet the average crossfitter is healthier than the average lifter.
Years ago I was working at Ironman races doing ART. All I heard was how fit these athletes were. I saw fat ladies completing the Ironman. It did not impress me. They had trained to do that task.
I couldn’t do that, but had a resting hear rate in the mid 40s, better than most athletes there. I did short spinning workouts three times a week and moderate weight workouts. I had some injuries and couldn’t concentrate on the weights, so I did something else.
Now who was fitter? Me? Or your average triathlete? I could deadlift in the 500 range at 180 lbs and had a resting pulse rate in the 40s. they could do a 140+ mile endurance race.
The answer is it depends. If you’re talking lifting, I was. A long endurance race, they were. Some short intense thing, maybe me.
There is no this one is fitter than that one. It’s task specific.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]AmericanOutlaw13 wrote:
What do you mean healthier? Sure they would have better endurance, but crossfitters rarely train heavy. What makes someone with better endurance healthier than someone that can squat twice their bodyweight?[/quote]
Whoa, I expected that you’d be around 20 but I did not expect that you were a “personal trainer”. Wow. So you think a better indicator of “healthy” is squatting twice your bodyweight rather than the person with better endurance. Seriously? Because I know too many guys that can squat twice bodyweight and better that aren’t very healthy. [/quote]
When did I ever say I thought squatting twice your bodyweight was healthier?.. I didnt. I asked you what made you think crossfitters were healthier than lifters.
Some of you are confusing fitness with health. Fitness is task specific. But not all tasks are healthy. Over the long term, in terms of my health, I’d take the ability to run a mile over the ability to deadlift 600lbs - and that’s coming from a 600lb deadlifter. You guys are reading too much into my prior post.
[quote]AmericanOutlaw13 wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]AmericanOutlaw13 wrote:
What do you mean healthier? Sure they would have better endurance, but crossfitters rarely train heavy. What makes someone with better endurance healthier than someone that can squat twice their bodyweight?[/quote]
Whoa, I expected that you’d be around 20 but I did not expect that you were a “personal trainer”. Wow. So you think a better indicator of “healthy” is squatting twice your bodyweight rather than the person with better endurance. Seriously? Because I know too many guys that can squat twice bodyweight and better that aren’t very healthy. [/quote]
When did I ever say I thought squatting twice your bodyweight was healthier?.. I didnt. I asked you what made you think crossfitters were healthier than lifters.[/quote]
I qualified it with other things being equal, like diet and yes, you can add genetics. Over the long term, I’d take cardio health over my ability lift heavy weight.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]AmericanOutlaw13 wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]AmericanOutlaw13 wrote:
What do you mean healthier? Sure they would have better endurance, but crossfitters rarely train heavy. What makes someone with better endurance healthier than someone that can squat twice their bodyweight?[/quote]
Whoa, I expected that you’d be around 20 but I did not expect that you were a “personal trainer”. Wow. So you think a better indicator of “healthy” is squatting twice your bodyweight rather than the person with better endurance. Seriously? Because I know too many guys that can squat twice bodyweight and better that aren’t very healthy. [/quote]
When did I ever say I thought squatting twice your bodyweight was healthier?.. I didnt. I asked you what made you think crossfitters were healthier than lifters.[/quote]
I qualified it with other things being equal, like diet and yes, you can add genetics. Over the long term, I’d take cardio health over my ability lift heavy weight. [/quote]
Long term I agree… But right now Id rather have a 600lb squat than be able to do some crazy ass crossfit circut in an amazingly short amount of time, but thats just personal preference.
[quote]AmericanOutlaw13 wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]AmericanOutlaw13 wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]AmericanOutlaw13 wrote:
What do you mean healthier? Sure they would have better endurance, but crossfitters rarely train heavy. What makes someone with better endurance healthier than someone that can squat twice their bodyweight?[/quote]
Whoa, I expected that you’d be around 20 but I did not expect that you were a “personal trainer”. Wow. So you think a better indicator of “healthy” is squatting twice your bodyweight rather than the person with better endurance. Seriously? Because I know too many guys that can squat twice bodyweight and better that aren’t very healthy. [/quote]
When did I ever say I thought squatting twice your bodyweight was healthier?.. I didnt. I asked you what made you think crossfitters were healthier than lifters.[/quote]
I qualified it with other things being equal, like diet and yes, you can add genetics. Over the long term, I’d take cardio health over my ability lift heavy weight. [/quote]
Long term I agree… But right now Id rather have a 600lb squat than be able to do some crazy ass crossfit circut in an amazingly short amount of time, but thats just personal preference.
[/quote]
Well, we always want what we don’t have - human nature. I’ve seen better than the 700lb squat and I’d trade it for overall health.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]AmericanOutlaw13 wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]AmericanOutlaw13 wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]AmericanOutlaw13 wrote:
What do you mean healthier? Sure they would have better endurance, but crossfitters rarely train heavy. What makes someone with better endurance healthier than someone that can squat twice their bodyweight?[/quote]
Whoa, I expected that you’d be around 20 but I did not expect that you were a “personal trainer”. Wow. So you think a better indicator of “healthy” is squatting twice your bodyweight rather than the person with better endurance. Seriously? Because I know too many guys that can squat twice bodyweight and better that aren’t very healthy. [/quote]
When did I ever say I thought squatting twice your bodyweight was healthier?.. I didnt. I asked you what made you think crossfitters were healthier than lifters.[/quote]
I qualified it with other things being equal, like diet and yes, you can add genetics. Over the long term, I’d take cardio health over my ability lift heavy weight. [/quote]
Long term I agree… But right now Id rather have a 600lb squat than be able to do some crazy ass crossfit circut in an amazingly short amount of time, but thats just personal preference.
[/quote]
Well, we always want what we don’t have - human nature. I’ve seen better than the 700lb squat and I’d trade it for overall health.[/quote]
<— Jealous
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
Thanks for admiring my cock, maybe someday you can have a cock as nice as mine. [/quote]
Yeah, well it is nice. And although it might be bigger, MINE is way harder.
I mean of course you’d expect an Iron Dwarf to have an iron cock, right?
[/quote]
Its not just about the hardness, its about the movement of the cock. And Girth. [/quote]
Yeah, I guess you’re right. My cock, although iron-hard and upright, just sits there.
Your point is similar to the old adage: “It’s not the size of the cock, it’s the motion in the hen house”.