Looking for Some Input

Ok then…eat chicken breasts between classes. You don’t have to eat ham or turkey…just a suggestion. And the only reason I commented the way I did was because you had an excuse for EVERYTHING that anyone said. You should know that Sun Chips are NOT good for you…they might not be that bad but they are NOT good.

As far as missing a day…it is good to take days off to let your muscles and your body recover. Try to keep them scheduled so you keep track…it is easy to want to go to the gym everyday when you are seeing results, but that will hurt you in the long run.

As long as you are still doing research…great!! Find out what works best for you, but just give it time. Too many people get discouraged because the results are not immediate. Just get in there and kick ass!

Rule #76…no excuses…play like a champion!

If you want sources of fibre look here:

I don’t see sun chips on the list.

Have a cup of raspberries.

Update:

I am not seeing progress…
I am getting my servings of fruits and my servings of vegetables every single day…
I eat around 2900 or more calories as well

NO pop, lots of water

I went from 203.8 to 206.7
over the weekend…

I am getting frustrated as I’ve been working out for 8+ weeks and I’ve lost less than 2 lbs… I workout hard every day and I’m not seeing the same results other guys are seeing…

OK, like the Dude said “This isn’t an exact science, but it CAN point you in the right direction. Choose a calorie range and monitor it for two weeks. Gain weight? Reduce daily caloric intake by 300 calories.”"

[quote]stuward wrote:
OK, like the Dude said “This isn’t an exact science, but it CAN point you in the right direction. Choose a calorie range and monitor it for two weeks. Gain weight? Reduce daily caloric intake by 300 calories.”"

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I have been under-eating beforehand… and losing no weight at all.
Now, I get what I need and have a great workout routine… and I eat good too… now I lost like 2 lbs over a few weeks.

But this isnt even CLOSE to what other people are claiming

If you want to lose a lot of weight fast, it’s possible but it’s not healthy, you will lose more meat than fat and you will quickly rebound. Losing a pound or so a week is sustainable and controllable and when you get to where you want to be you will have developed eating skills and habits to allow you to manipulate your weight at will and keep the weight off.

  • I suspect that how you train in the gym is lacking.
  • I recommend not doing your mile run before lifting weights but in the morning or at night.
  • The sprint session after is great.

Recommendation.

  • Go run for an hour before you usually get ready for school.
  • Eat a whole grain unprocessed cereal or just a cup of oatmeal in the morning, with your protein shake. Drink a bottle of water ( that amount once every 3 hours at least ).
  • Tell your teachers you have developed a medical condition, anorexia or bulemia and need to snack on almonds and stuff. Bring small ziplock bags of almonds to chomp on.
  • Your school doesn’t have brunch before lunch?
  • You’re body looks like it could benefit from a Total Body Workout 3-4 times a week.
  • Try 9-12 sets per bodypart. Rest time between sets 30-60 seconds.

Example :

DB Flye x 2 Incline/Decline/Flat - thats 6 sets
Incline/Decline/Flat Barbell Press x 2 sets - thats 6 again
There are lots of other chest exercises tho.

Already have done 12 sets!
Cap this off with pushups at home.

Repeat this for Back, Legs(not including calves), Biceps, Triceps, Traps, Delts for shape, and Delts for thickness/mass.

** If this is too difficult or too easy search up some TBT training articles on this website for something that wasn’t drawn up on the fly.
** The people in really good shape at your gym, ask them for advice and what they’re training looks like to get a better idea how you should compare against your peers.


But based on what you have said, your eating is basically killing your progress. Besides the fact you rely on your mom instead of preparing for yourself.

This is a nono, if you want to take control of your life and physique you prepare your own food.

  • Also drop your caloric intake down from 2900 to 23-2400.
    Sounds like your eating enough to gain weight not lose weight.
    Go online look up BMR Calculator, Calculate your BMR then to find out how many calories is maintenance use the Harris Benedict Equation. Google.

Simple trick to raising your metabolism is to down glasses of ice cold water, just do 2 glasses every 2 hours at home.
Please do not rely on this as your path to weight loss. It’ll just help a little.


Don’t choose to be helpless.
If you get frustrated, train harder.
Analyze and fix your plan and get back to work.

It is a combination of Proper Eating/Exercise/Rest.

  • You’re eating is pretty crap though you’re better off working on gaining more muscle then leaning out to bone.
  • Sounds like you run better then your train in the gym
  • Looks like you don’t train above the average high school PE class

Unfortunately your 18 so I guess joining your hs football team/track team/wrestling team etc is not an option. So your going to have to learn how to push yourself, discipline yourself, overcome yourself. Well you could join Track & Field. Just for the experience.


Given time, experience, more discipline, and a willingness to learn and apply yourself you can achieve what you want. Just don’t quit on yourself. That is the last thing you want to happen.

If you want to get a glimpse of maintenance protein do this. Eat 6 cans of tuna a day, doesn’t matter how you do it. Straight out of the can, blend it with water and swallow, or make light tuna fish sandwiches with whole wheat bread. Do that plus a protein shake.

Everyday for 30 days.

Drink 1-2 bottles of water every 2-3 hours. So roughly 10-14 bottles of water a day.

Eat uh vegetables and fibrous stuff so you can have healthy bowel movements :stuck_out_tongue:

Enjoy. Re-evaluate everything after you try eating like this.

all i know is that i dont eat school lunch due to the fact that it is unhealthy and for anyone trying to lose fat or gain lean body mass school lunch is the wrong way to go. i eat a breakfast in the morning and dont eat a lunch. wish i could pack something to eat but it will be either soggy or just plain not good by the time lunch rolls around.

[quote]kinein wrote:

Don’t choose to be helpless.
If you get frustrated, train harder.
Analyze and fix your plan and get back to work.

It is a combination of Proper Eating/Exercise/Rest.

  • You’re eating is pretty crap though you’re better off working on gaining more muscle then leaning out to bone.
  • Sounds like you run better then your train in the gym
  • Looks like you don’t train above the average high school PE class

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I appreciate your post minus this bit here.

I work my goddamned ASS off every single day. Easily, I outwork a lot of people in the gym. I am constantly in a sweat, heart rate is above 160 when I am lifting at all times. I take 20-60second breaks.

I train harder than the entire football team will ever wish to train, and you can count on that being fact. I lift, I lift hard, people stand around and watch me do my workouts efficiently and correctly, while they bleat and herd around 1 machine to see if someone finally max out.

I contend, my workout is intensive for my body. What I posted, is really just a summary. It leaves out a lot of important things because sometimes I just can’t pull the same performance as other days, today was one of those days.

Also, running before school or night is not an option.
I live in Minnesota

Unless… hypothermia is a good attribute to your diet?
I have no treadmill, no place to run but outside… Unless its school.

Furthermore, I am getting a lot of mixed responses. Before hand, I was being told I am not eating enough at 2200, and then I was told I need A LOT more. Read the other post in this thread, someone did some math for me and looked at my caloric intake.

Also, I dont concern myself with calories as much anymore since I’ve started filling fat calories with vegetables and stuff…

Ah, the headache.

[quote]Trainer1928 wrote:
all i know is that i dont eat school lunch due to the fact that it is unhealthy and for anyone trying to lose fat or gain lean body mass school lunch is the wrong way to go. i eat a breakfast in the morning and dont eat a lunch. wish i could pack something to eat but it will be either soggy or just plain not good by the time lunch rolls around.[/quote]

Terrible food is better than no food.
Energy doesn’t create itself.

[quote]HangerBaby wrote:

I work my goddamned ASS off every single day. Easily, I outwork a lot of people in the gym. I am constantly in a sweat, heart rate is above 160 when I am lifting at all times. I take 20-60second breaks.
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Then don’t get frustrated.

Efficiently and correctly is nice, but are you seeing weekly gains in strength 1lb-5lbs, 1 extra rep, one more set?

Good, more info - You have your passion bucket next to you
I see. Well then I think your options are limited to indoors. Jump-rope @ gym. Jumping Jacks, Burpees, or pick up grappling/grappling martial art.

[quote]
Furthermore, I am getting a lot of mixed responses. Before hand, I was being told I am not eating enough at 2200, and then I was told I need A LOT more. Read the other post in this thread, someone did some math for me and looked at my caloric intake.

Also, I dont concern myself with calories as much anymore since I’ve started filling fat calories with vegetables and stuff…

Ah, the headache.[/quote]

Well the T-Section tends to be split by several different philosophies, but addressing your initial statement about losing weight, you need to operate at a calorie deficit. Anyone telling you to eat at your maintenance level isn’t addressing that. Though I’ll admit I gave you a mixed answer one for losing and a ambiguous follow-up about working on gaining muscle.

Moving on ~

7 Habits of Highly Effective Nutritional Programs
by John M. Berardi
http://www.T-Nation.com/readArticle.do?id=459493

I recommend for nutrition you start here and go from there.


Addressing training, unless you have a strength coach whispering in your ear your not going to be the end all archive for fitness knowledge, take time to listen to your peers with a grain of salt.

Your belief that your exercise habits are superior to others blinds you to finding other ways to improve yourself. Power/Strength lifters make great gains too. But don’t lean on the NO button whenever you get replies because I think everyone that posted is trying to help and you should try it before you knock it.

I’ve found that reading the text versus actually understanding what the person is trying to say can take time. I’m rereading plenty of T-Nation stuff because I’ve found that I didn’t interpret it correctly. Now I get it.

Good luck.

Also check out the beginner stickies at the top of the beginner forum and review what you know, think you know, and what the Iron Sages are saying.