I actually eat more oddly. Not a huge amount, but enough to notice, that it’s more then my normal routine.
I would seek medical attention.
Yeah heavy singles year round will tire you out neurologically and affect your sleep, elevated cortisol etc especially if over 35. Try running through some templates off this site that get you stronger in higher rep ranges. This is a good start
As Pwnisher is alluding to… if you are doing 12+ excercise sessions a week and not seeing significant fat loss then something is seriously amiss
For what exactly?, blood work and docs all say everything is good.
Not enough sleep will screw up losing weight.
I would be very concerned about not losing weight on low calories and then losing it when I increase it. I could understand cortisol affecting body comp, but it should not alter thermodynamics.
Yes my long term routines have been heavy singles, fair amount of rest time. Goal was pure strength. Now that I’m knocking on 50… going to change that up.
Started a 3day week routine, 70% of max for high reps. Shorter rest times as well. Mixing in some 350 as well.
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Could you move to a part of the world that agrees with tour inner clock
Quoting doesn’t seem to be working…T3hPwnisher…
I hear your concern. Unfortunately I’m very familiar with thyroid and pituitary disorders as my wife has both, many docs and specialists and decades later it’s finally under control. She’s on HGH therapy as well, huge improvement. I chatted with her Endo, and he also agreed that such little sleep would indeed cause the issue I’ve been struggling with.
I’m not actually gaining weight, just not losing it either. Weight would fluctuate by 1lb over the course of 2wks.
Not enough sleep really does screwy things to our bodies.
I am glad you sought medical attention. I would seek a second opinion. Very alarming for a medical professional to render diagnosis without testing or exam. Similar to the doctor prescribing medicine to a healthy patient.
If these two work at the same establishment, I would consider notifying their inspector general equivalent over concerns with abiding by medical ethics.
didn’t you say you were 44, plenty of time before you are anywhere near 50
A yup,… so while not 50. Still closer then I’d like. Fun with numbers… 30 is in the rear view by 14 going on 15 yrs, 50 is less then 6 now. I’m not old, I know that, but I’m also acutely aware of how fast time flies… Just yesterday I was 22…
I’d like to be here as long as I can, recognizing that I’m not in my 20s and having to change things up helps I hope. Honestly after over 20yrs of lifting heavy, the ol joints just don’t like it much anymore.
I 100% get your point here, and agree, but your hormonal balance can alter the “calories out” side of the equation - so you’d still obey the law of thermodynamics as, unfortunately, we must, but have a different response than we’d predict to varying calorie intakes.
I’m not saying that’s what’s happening here (or not, I don’t know either way), and I think the Internet has us all thinking missing a nap is why we’re 45 lbs overweight; I’m just saying there’s variance on both sides of the equal sign.
This is the big thing I am wanting to emphasize. To attribute non-weight loss at such low calories to just a small amount of missing sleep is rather absurd, and to simply accept this conclusion is typically an instance of one not wanting to admit that they have underlying health issues. It’s like Sonny Barger drinking bottles of chloraseptic spray because he was sure it was a sore throat and nothing to do with the fact he was a many pack a day smoker that had developed throat cancer.
Being surrounded by medical care providers that only seem interested in writing prescriptions and not actually performing a basic examination compounds the issue for sure.
The alternative COA is that things have been wildly exaggerated in the retelling of these stories, but I am taking everything at absolute true value here.
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You have a gift with the written word, and I agree with all your points.
From what I’ve read, except in extreme circumstances, we really only see a “metabolic adaptation,” whether hormonally- or diet-induced, of up to about 200 calories. So, yes, it’s there, but no, it’s not what happened to America. Except for extremely lean people, this probably falls into the bucket of theory vs practice.
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Hmmm, it’s not small amounts of lost sleep, more like half. I wouldn’t wish this disorder on anyone, it sucks beyond measure. There is no ‘cure’ the only way to manage it is to simply follow my own circadian rhythm, but as I’m sure many can figure out, getting up near noon is not very productive, I manage but it sucks. I’m used to the lack of sleep in that I walk around fatigued all the time, a day tired is a day with more energy. The cycle of being flat out exhausted to simply tired runs about 6 days, coincides with weekly work schedules. It’s also why I schedule out 3 months of vacation a yr, 2 months out in the summer and a month in spring or winter depending on if I travel out of the country or not. It’s during those times I can sleep on my own schedule, better rest, more energy and I do experience weight loss, nothing drastic loss none the less.
Imagine a world where everyone went to bed around 3pm and woke up to start the day at midnight, you are stuck on your normal 9ish to 6am routine, how long do you think you’d go before things started getting out of whack? you’d still function, you could still get done the things you need to, but you’ll drag all the time.
This disorder is nothing new to me, it’s also not heavily researched so new things are being discovered, it effects a small percentage of the population so it flies below the radar. Doing a bit of digging into recent research papers they have indeed found that it disrupts hunger and hormones to the extent that weight gain happens and I’d also surmise that weight loss will be resistant.
I’ll share the gritty details -time wise- of an avg gym session.
Total time spent = 52 min
Actual time ‘lifting’ = 25 min
Rest time = 27 min
Over the course of a week the ‘on time’ or time spent actually performing a lift would vary from a total of 25 mins to 40 mins depending on the day, and rest time varied from 20-50 mins. So a good day almost half the time I’m resting the other half actually active in lifting, and on heavy days it was more like 1/3 to 2/3 work vs rest. Is that normal? no idea, sometimes I have to sit but most times I stay standing as if I do sit down I’m going to struggle getting up to maintain cadence with the session.
It’s been decades since I tracked this much detail, so after the last 4 months of tracking and looking at what I was doing it gives me a better idea of what direction to take.
Goal 1, try and get more sleep - going to be hard.
Routine change, knock the weight back down to 70% vs 90% and increase reps, more hyper trophy
3-4 day split, combined with walking and light cycling on off days.
I say 3-4 days as I’ll start with a M,W,F approach to feel out the new program and if I can I’d like to go with M,T,Th,F. to feel it out once I can mange to get more sleep.
Last yr this time I was 260lb, I’m now at 268lb, 8lbs up
Body measurements also tracked
Circumference around shoulders, 55 to 57
Chest 50 to 51
waist - no change
thigh 24 to 26.5
bicep 17 to 18.25
forearm 13.5 to 14
calves 17 to 17.5
Neck 20 to 19.5
Caliper pinch 22.5% to 21%
I would consider that small, compared to missing entire days of sleep.
I work shifts while having a child to raise, so much imagination is not needed for this.
Which is why I would seek medical attention.
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The change in one’s outlook on life before and after receiving a diagnosis that lets them blame some of their problems on is remarkable.
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Remember that movie “The Machinist”, where Christian Bale just can’t get to sleep and he just keeps getting fatter and fatter?
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I wish I could forget it.
You’re thinking of Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.
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