I found conventional DLs were wrecking my back. Actually, it was probably my stubborness and too much maxing out. Anyway, switched to sumo about a year ago and loved it. No hip issues, back felt great, numbers went up.
Switched back to conventional to get more back work and so far, so good. Numbers for sumo / conv are about the same. 5/3/1 is keeping me from maxing which is good. Sumo taught me to initiate the DL with leg drive which is something I sucked at before.
But the last week or so I’m having hip pain which is making sleep a problem. Stretching hip flexors and foam rolling. I guess I’ll just keep at it and see what happens. I may need to get into some of the Cressey info.
Welcome aboard, I had the same problems with conventional DLs not the hip but the back, switched to sumo about a year ago. As a white guy I want to develop some ass so I dont plan to switch back for a long time to come.
I am considering trying to learn sumo after doing my DL’s on dead day. It seems like it would not be the best idea ever for a guy with really short arms.
[quote]JoeGood wrote:
I am considering trying to learn sumo after doing my DL’s on dead day. It seems like it would not be the best idea ever for a guy with really short arms.[/quote]
I found the learning curve quite short. I didn’t go full sumo with my feet out by the plates. More of a semi sumo. I liked it and will probably cycle back to it at some point.
I’m also trying to learn sumo, if only for cross-training purposes. But my plan is to throw light, high-rep sets in after my squat. Encouraging to hear that the experiment has been successful for you, Giterdone. I can’t imagine ever switching from conventional, though, as I’m so much stronger in that stance. But it is so much harder on the back.
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
I’m also trying to learn sumo, if only for cross-training purposes. But my plan is to throw light, high-rep sets in after my squat. Encouraging to hear that the experiment has been successful for you, Giterdone. I can’t imagine ever switching from conventional, though, as I’m so much stronger in that stance. But it is so much harder on the back.[/quote]
If I recall correctly, when I started sumo I was down about 20% from conventional and was even strength in about 3 months.
I’ve done higher reps but my favorite rep for them is 3 so my form stays tight, I don’t max (if I can keep my ego out of it) and I can be explosive. Instead of high reps what about multiple sets of 3 starting at 50-60% of max and ramping weight & sets until you end at a solid 3 rep set (a few reps in the tank). Short rest periods for conditioning if desired.
Sumo is my friend. I am much weaker on conventional deads. Although truth be told, the only time I do them is getting the loaded 135 lb. barbell from the floor to the rack after my sumo sets are done. Perhaps I am too fried at that moment to really tell.
Bench - shoulder is feeling good but my pushing power for bench and military is painfully weak
5/3/1 day
145x5
160x3
185x6
155x10,x8,x5 (sorta BBB but not as boring as 5 sets)
Incline DBs - upper chest needs work, low rep today
55x3
65x3
80x3
85x3 + drop of 55x10 (for some reps)
BW Dips
17, 7 (rest too short)
EZ bar curls - not sure what the bar weighs so not included
+70x3, +80x3, +90x7, +70x11
I love how Neil prowls the stage as if to say…I’ve been doin’ this a long fuckin time but I can still bring it…the hour is gettin laaaate!
[quote]Null wrote:
Grateful you decided to log, will be following.
Yeah, Neil is hardcore… Always was. Have you seen his Lincoln?[/quote]
Hey, thanks for dropping in. The LincVolt! Coolness.
I greatly admire people, like Neil, that are multi-dimensional. Too many follow the traditional linear path of work, retire, die. One of my objectives as I “mature” is to force myself to get off the path and wander around a bit.
[quote]giterdone wrote:
Too many follow the traditional linear path of work, retire, die. One of my objectives as I “mature” is to force myself to get off the path and wander around a bit.[/quote]
That’s a very laudable goal and, I believe, will keep you young. Forcing the brain to build new neural pathways (via new experiences or new ways of approaching old experiences) as we age is supposed to stave off dementia-related illnesses.
[quote]giterdone wrote:
Too many follow the traditional linear path of work, retire, die. One of my objectives as I “mature” is to force myself to get off the path and wander around a bit.[/quote]
That’s a very laudable goal and, I believe, will keep you young. Forcing the brain to build new neural pathways (via new experiences or new ways of approaching old experiences) as we age is supposed to stave off dementia-related illnesses.
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Agreed. My dad is in the early stages of dimentia. A horrible and unfair illness for such a thoughtful and articulate man.