Deca Durabolin has very negative sexual sides. I have also seen a couple of guys permanently HPTA damaged from [stupid] deca only cycles. If a doc did prescribe deca, he would not manage or think of PCT. I think that deca would be a good option, if combined with some testosterone ester and the who thing would have to be managed as a proper cycle with estrogen management and PCT. Getting this from a doc seems impossible.
I had tendinitis both inside and outside. Tried all sorts of remedies and suggestions. The Pro-Sup Extensions from Inno Sports worked for me. I performed these on push days and then the day after for restoration purposes as well for light - medium sets of 10 - 15 reps. Link for Article “Back your Bench”: 安全加密检测 Also look at the media section for demonstration if needed.
Semper Fi and Happy Birthday !
[quote]Northcott wrote:
From what I’ve read here, steroids can shut down your natural T production if taken in sufficient doses – period. However, there are ways of managing that and ameliorating the effects, as well as returning yourself to normal levels after. Check out the steroid forums for more information. Warning: There’s a fucking ton of information there, and it’s a bitch to sift through.
Point is, if you go in armed with that info, and your Doc isn’t a closed-minded SOB (as many unfortunately are), then you’re in luck. The ideal situation is to do a legal, medically supervised course with proper post-cycle therapy. That’s not necessarily the ideal solution, though.
I think you’re doing yourself a disservice by looking for a magic bullet, here. Prior posters have hit the nail on the head: there’s several other factors to be looked at. If you don’t check these elements of your training and nutrition, and correct possible problems there, then the issue you’re having will simply reoccur even if cortisone, steroids, or other quick fixes work.
A good massage therapist is ideal. The Trigger Point Therapy workbook is fantastic, however, and will get you a long way toward where you want to go. Check with your military Doc. I’m surprised that the military doesn’t have some massage therapists on the medical support staff for rehabbing injuries. Deal with the knots in your muscles, and you’ve taken a good first step. Another poster mentioned the possible strain on your joints and muscles from your martial training – this is also something to consider. Sometimes a stretched tendon needs time to tighten back up. While I know how much of a pain in the ass it can be to back off of training you love doing, sometimes it’s necessary to do that in the short term so that you can keep doing what you love until you’re old and grey. That hammer grip exercise also looks like it’d be great for helping to address issues in forearm musculature, which you may well have. Overuse injuries are often (but not always) just a sign that the balancing muscles in the body are underused – like a guy who benches too much, but never works his back.
Also, there was Strength Training, Bodybuilding & Online Supplement Store - T NATION this T-Nation article just the other day, dealing with Omega 3’s, 6’s, inflammation, and a few other subjects you may find interesting.
Edited to add: Good luck, man! We’ve all been there before, and us over-35ers have to stick together. No sense in letting life grind us down before we’re ready for the pine box. ;)[/quote]
You said it! I want to play rugby and bjj till I am the old man on the team. I will of course be the most handsome. Just look at my avatar! Thanks for the help, man. I will pursue the massage therapy. You are right.
[quote]KSman wrote:
Deca Durabolin has very negative sexual sides. I have also seen a couple of guys permanently HPTA damaged from [stupid] deca only cycles. If a doc did prescribe deca, he would not manage or think of PCT. I think that deca would be a good option, if combined with some testosterone ester and the who thing would have to be managed as a proper cycle with estrogen management and PCT. Getting this from a doc seems impossible.[/quote]
I am not going to pursue it. It would raise way too many eyebrows, and you never really know how confidential your records are when you have so many people handling your records.
[quote]frankf79 wrote:
I had tendinitis both inside and outside. Tried all sorts of remedies and suggestions. The Pro-Sup Extensions from Inno Sports worked for me. I performed these on push days and then the day after for restoration purposes as well for light - medium sets of 10 - 15 reps. Link for Article “Back your Bench”: 安全加密检测 Also look at the media section for demonstration if needed.
Semper Fi and Happy Birthday ![/quote]
Errr!! Happy 234th, brother. Stay motivated. I will read these articles right now.
Forgive me if this has been mentioned as I didn’t read all responses, but is the diagnosis tendonITIS or tendonOSIS as they are different. Tendonitis is inflammation related whereas tendonosis is micro structural damage usually without inflammation (itis = inflammation). So the treatment should be ICE, NSAIDS, rest if tendonitis. But if it’s tendonosis then reduction in inflammation isn’t going to be as effective as the problem is structural. In that case, I suggest getting some Active Release to break up any adhesions and scar tissue in the tendons. Stretching of bi,tris and forearms is probably good to free up any friction that the tendons might be experiencing due to tight neighbouring muscles.
Good Luck.
[quote]sgottsch wrote:
Forgive me if this has been mentioned as I didn’t read all responses, but is the diagnosis tendonITIS or tendonOSIS as they are different. Tendonitis is inflammation related whereas tendonosis is micro structural damage usually without inflammation (itis = inflammation). So the treatment should be ICE, NSAIDS, rest if tendonitis. But if it’s tendonosis then reduction in inflammation isn’t going to be as effective as the problem is structural. In that case, I suggest getting some Active Release to break up any adhesions and scar tissue in the tendons. Stretching of bi,tris and forearms is probably good to free up any friction that the tendons might be experiencing due to tight neighbouring muscles.
Good Luck.[/quote]
I was diagnosed with tendonOSIS after my MRI. I have been doing several stretches and it has honestly had an immediate impact on my well-being. I am excited, as I have gained so much knowledge from this thread, and AM FEELING BETTER. Yessss!!!
Pass in Review. I was a Series Commander here.
Maybe that damn sword-manual for three years did all this.
Company Commander here. Commander of Troops.
The dark-green officer on the far left (white cap) is a FUCKING BEAST. I love him but hate him. Has paper-thin skin and looks like an anatomy chart. Eats anything he wants. Is over 40. You all startin’ to feel my pain?! Only thing is, he is a hero, and a wonderful friend.
Man that previous pic didn’t come out as planned. In this one he is looking at me like, ‘Is he gonna call Eyes Right or what?!’
Sorry guys, those pics didn’t come out as close as I wanted. Let’s see if I can get a closer one?..
You-KNOW!!
Hey Michael,
I realize someone brought this up already but I thought I would reiterate with my experience. I’m currently 33 years old and for the last 10 years I’ve been dealing with severe elbow pain. Medial, lateral, and posterior…you name it, it hurt. Turning a door knob, shaking my protein shake, doing any bicep work…it all sucked. Finally, I tried ART (Active Release Technique) and Graston Technique. They both helped a bit but certainly not enough. Finally, I decided to start getting biweekly, 2-hour deep tissue massages because I’ve got plenty of soft-tissue issues aside from my elbows. I spoke with my massage therapist about my elbow issues and he highly suggested doing myofascial release on them. For every 2 hour session I have with him, he spends approximately 45 minutes doing myofascial release on my elbows alone. I can’t begin to tell you how MUCH of a differenece it has made. I’ve been doing this for 3 months, so I’ve had a total of 6 sessions. I’m certainly not free of pain but this the best I can remember my elbows ever feeling. I know you mentioned that you probably couldn’t afford it but whatever it costs…try to budget for it, you won’t regret it!
The key and most important thing is to find a VERY GOOD DEEP TISSUE massage therapist. I’ve been with many that just flat out suck. The massage therapist I went to has a reputation for having powerful hands of stone…and boy were they right! (Don’t mean to sound gay here, but they’re ability to apply incredible pressure for long periods of time is key). It hurts like a motherf*cker but well worth the pain. Hope this helps and best of luck with it.
Hey Michael,
I realize someone brought this up already but I thought I would reiterate with my experience. I’m currently 33 years old and for the last 10 years I’ve been dealing with severe elbow pain. Medial, lateral, and posterior…you name it, it hurt. Turning a door knob, shaking my protein shake, doing any bicep work…it all sucked. Finally, I tried ART (Active Release Technique) and Graston Technique. They both helped a bit but certainly not enough. Finally, I decided to start getting biweekly, 2-hour deep tissue massages because I’ve got plenty of soft-tissue issues aside from my elbows. I spoke with my massage therapist about my elbow issues and he highly suggested doing myofascial release on them. For every 2 hour session I have with him, he spends approximately 45 minutes doing myofascial release on my elbows alone. I can’t begin to tell you how MUCH of a differenece it has made. I’ve been doing this for 3 months, so I’ve had a total of 6 sessions. I’m certainly not free of pain but this the best I can remember my elbows ever feeling. I know you mentioned that you probably couldn’t afford it but whatever it costs…try to budget for it, you won’t regret it! The key and most important thing is to find a VERY GOOD DEEP TISSUE massage therapist. I’ve been with many that just flat out suck. The massage therapist I went to has a reputation for having powerful hands of stone…and boy were they right! (Don’t mean to sound gay here, but they’re ability to apply incredible pressure for long periods of time is key). It hurts like a motherf*cker but well worth the pain. Hope this helps and best of luck with it.
[quote]edannenfels wrote:
Hey Michael,
I realize someone brought this up already but I thought I would reiterate with my experience. I’m currently 33 years old and for the last 10 years I’ve been dealing with severe elbow pain. Medial, lateral, and posterior…you name it, it hurt. Turning a door knob, shaking my protein shake, doing any bicep work…it all sucked.
Finally, I tried ART (Active Release Technique) and Graston Technique. They both helped a bit but certainly not enough. Finally, I decided to start getting biweekly, 2-hour deep tissue massages because I’ve got plenty of soft-tissue issues aside from my elbows. I spoke with my massage therapist about my elbow issues and he highly suggested doing myofascial release on them.
For every 2 hour session I have with him, he spends approximately 45 minutes doing myofascial release on my elbows alone. I can’t begin to tell you how MUCH of a differenece it has made. I’ve been doing this for 3 months, so I’ve had a total of 6 sessions. I’m certainly not free of pain but this the best I can remember my elbows ever feeling. I know you mentioned that you probably couldn’t afford it but whatever it costs…try to budget for it, you won’t regret it!
The key and most important thing is to find a VERY GOOD DEEP TISSUE massage therapist. I’ve been with many that just flat out suck. The massage therapist I went to has a reputation for having powerful hands of stone…and boy were they right! (Don’t mean to sound gay here, but they’re ability to apply incredible pressure for long periods of time is key). It hurts like a motherf*cker but well worth the pain. Hope this helps and best of luck with it. [/quote]
Thanks so much! I think I might use some Christmas money for this. Yeah, people have been mentioning this, and I am taking every avenue available to kick this thing. But the only kicker is that I am pretty sure I am not going to really ‘kick’ this. I have even considered asking my wife if she wants to explore becoming a message therapist. Ha!! We will see. Thanks again, mate. I really appreciate it.
Can’t emphasize the quality of the MT enough. You need one with strong hands who can really get in there and, if necessary, make things uncomfortable in fixing the problem. My MT’s an ex-ball player who really works the muscle. He wasn’t available once, and I went to my wife’s – a pretty blonde with lots of knowledge, but I barely felt her hands working my back.
With the massive advantages that good massage therapy offers, and it’s current acceptance in the medical community and as a rehab tool for the injured, I’m amazed there’s not some program in the military that gives you access to one – or at least some kind of financial aid in pursuing corrective health measures.
[quote]Northcott wrote:
Can’t emphasize the quality of the MT enough. You need one with strong hands who can really get in there and, if necessary, make things uncomfortable in fixing the problem. My MT’s an ex-ball player who really works the muscle. He wasn’t available once, and I went to my wife’s – a pretty blonde with lots of knowledge, but I barely felt her hands working my back.
With the massive advantages that good massage therapy offers, and it’s current acceptance in the medical community and as a rehab tool for the injured, I’m amazed there’s not some program in the military that gives you access to one – or at least some kind of financial aid in pursuing corrective health measures. [/quote]
I just realized today is my birthday. Man, I really am getting old. Everyone keeps asking me if I am turning 23 (coughbullshit!) so I guess I am still hot (ahemNOT).
You have to be right. I will look into Military One Source or something. You know what is pissing me off? My PA isn’t returning any of my emails. That is so unprofessional. I understand he is busy, but I am, too, and in pain on top of it all.
It is interesting to note that I have made strides in my pain-management journey/rehabilitation just from this thread versus the countless doctors visits over the past three years. God bless T-Nation. May you all live to be 137 years old and have 455 grandchildren. And as my present to you on my birthday, go rent Ong Bak 2. It will change your life.
And Dexter. I am naming my first born son after him.