[quote]optheta wrote:
it taxes your heart[/quote]
This is a misguided statement. Those that exercise vigorously do experience a higher heart rate during their time of activity, however, their resting heart rate is much lower when compared to the sedentary person. By exercising, you are strengthening your heart, thus it will have to work less to circulate blood, allowing it to function for a longer period of time.
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
it taxes your heart[/quote]
This is a misguided statement. Those that exercise vigorously do experience a higher heart rate during their time of activity, however, their resting heart rate is much lower when compared to the sedentary person. By exercising, you are strengthening your heart, thus it will have to work less to circulate blood, allowing it to function for a longer period of time.[/quote]
X 2
Excellent point. By that logic, the OP may as well abstain from any form of “stimulation” whatsoever… “sorry guys, I can’t go the the strip club - it may raise my heart rate”. LOL
I’m kinda fucking with you, OP so don’t get bent outta shape - you’re 22: you still have to live a little, bro. Odds are by the time you get to be my age, they’ll have found a cure for aging and you will have “wasted” all the potential good times. I would not want to be around when you had THAT mid life crisis! LOL
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
it taxes your heart[/quote]
This is a misguided statement. Those that exercise vigorously do experience a higher heart rate during their time of activity, however, their resting heart rate is much lower when compared to the sedentary person. By exercising, you are strengthening your heart, thus it will have to work less to circulate blood, allowing it to function for a longer period of time.[/quote]
I would love to hear more about this. This is what my gf has been telling me about; how working your heart hard in the gym will wear it out, reducing your lifespan. It makes sense; HIIT definitely doesn’t FEEL healthy, good as it is for my BF% :)))
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
I’m kinda fucking with you, OP so don’t get bent outta shape - you’re 22: you still have to live a little, bro. Odds are by the time you get to be my age, they’ll have found a cure for aging and you will have “wasted” all the potential good times. I would not want to be around when you had THAT mid life crisis! LOL[/quote]
That might be true, too :).
[quote]anonym wrote:
If, at 22 years of age, you are already in the process of trashing your joints, you need to start listening to your body more because you’re doing something terribly wrong.
What is it that you do that makes you so concerned about your heart/nervous system, and how do you plan on working your muscles hard while placing less stress on your system?
Is your MD gf telling you that lifting is bad for your ticker, or something?[/quote]
I’m not trashing my joints, but I feel the strain heavy benching puts on my elbows, etc.
I’m not concerned about my nervous system. I’m just concerned about wearing my heart out.
Yeah, she’s basically telling me that that kind of extreme stress on your body (& heart) is really unhealthy.
[quote]sen say wrote:
[quote]espenl wrote:
This is because there has been more smoking among men. As this trend is now turning, expect the opposite.[/quote]
Ummmm…no…all around no.[/quote]
Thanks for the correction, the trend is turning, but smoking alone is not enough to reverse the difference, just decrease it.
As a comment to the OP, your wish to live to be 120 is common when you are 22, but hormones and other maturing factors will often change this wish as time passes.
[quote]espenl wrote:
Thanks for the correction, the trend is turning, but smoking alone is not enough to reverse the difference, just decrease it.
[/quote]
No…your smoking idea is bollocks…studies as of 2009 show men smoke more…women live longer than men for many reasons…differences in smoking rates isn’t one of them. Some common reasons:
Men are stupid and do fucked up shit. Men are more likely to die violently than women at a young age via car crashes. Men drink more, play with guns more and drive faster.
Men accumulate more stress in their lives resulting in dying from disease…they also tend to eat worse resulting in more disease. Men die earlier from cardiovascular diseases than women.
When men get old and depressed they are more likely to blow their brains out than women…sad, old bitches will take pills and then call a friend and not succeed in their attempt to kill themselves. Men are better at killing themselves.
Oh wait…the OP sent me a pm asking me ‘What’s your fucking problem?’ I had no idea who the fuck it was, but being the rilly smart guy I am I put 2 and 2 together and realized G87 is the OP and his feelings are hurt because I recommended him and his dad suck some cock together to increase their lifespans…
Hey G87…you come on here asking for help and I try to help you and then you send me a pm like a little bitch??? WTF man…you want to live to be a hunnert or not? Men in New Guineau and Papua easily live to be 107 and they suck cock from the time they’re 7 years old…I’m not personally interested in living past 80 so cock sucking doesn’t appeal to me…I naturally assumed if you wanted to live to be 100 to accomplish all you’re capable of that you wouldn’t mind a little man jizz chugged down your nonagenerian gullet…
Don’t come on here looking for help from me ever again bucko…got it? Ingrateful fuck.
[quote]G87 wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
it taxes your heart[/quote]
This is a misguided statement. Those that exercise vigorously do experience a higher heart rate during their time of activity, however, their resting heart rate is much lower when compared to the sedentary person. By exercising, you are strengthening your heart, thus it will have to work less to circulate blood, allowing it to function for a longer period of time.[/quote]
I would love to hear more about this. This is what my gf has been telling me about; how working your heart hard in the gym will wear it out, reducing your lifespan. It makes sense; HIIT definitely doesn’t FEEL healthy, good as it is for my BF% :)))
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
I’m kinda fucking with you, OP so don’t get bent outta shape - you’re 22: you still have to live a little, bro. Odds are by the time you get to be my age, they’ll have found a cure for aging and you will have “wasted” all the potential good times. I would not want to be around when you had THAT mid life crisis! LOL[/quote]
That might be true, too :).
[quote]anonym wrote:
If, at 22 years of age, you are already in the process of trashing your joints, you need to start listening to your body more because you’re doing something terribly wrong.
What is it that you do that makes you so concerned about your heart/nervous system, and how do you plan on working your muscles hard while placing less stress on your system?
Is your MD gf telling you that lifting is bad for your ticker, or something?[/quote]
I’m not trashing my joints, but I feel the strain heavy benching puts on my elbows, etc.
I’m not concerned about my nervous system. I’m just concerned about wearing my heart out.
Yeah, she’s basically telling me that that kind of extreme stress on your body (& heart) is really unhealthy.[/quote]
How do you need to hear more about it? A stronger heart is more efficient, thus allowing it to use fewer beats to circulate blood through your body. A heart that uses fewer beats lasts longer, simply stated. Of course the human body has many other contributing factors, but this logic surrounding the heart has been scientifically proven, if you want to read more than I suggest doing a PubMed search.
Also, I suggest going out and doing your own research and learning, in every facet of life. Simply taking what others say as truth or law will get you in trouble.
Question, that whole idea that ‘The heart has a set amount of beats, and once they are used up you die’ theory. Is that even true? I thought it was a theory based upon correlation with heart rate, but fell through.
Personally, I would think that idea parallel to ‘Your bicep can only contract X amount of times, then it blows up, so don’t work out’. Obviously there are differences between cardiac and skeletal muscles, but what evidence is there to say cardiac muscle cannot repair itself?
Theory = Bollocks, although I would love to be proven wrong (actually, I would hate to be proven wrong, but am open to it)
CoQ10 + Protein + L-Carnitine + Magnesium = Win
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
it taxes your heart[/quote]
This is a misguided statement. Those that exercise vigorously do experience a higher heart rate during their time of activity, however, their resting heart rate is much lower when compared to the sedentary person. By exercising, you are strengthening your heart, thus it will have to work less to circulate blood, allowing it to function for a longer period of time.[/quote]
Even when they are lifting to the extremes that Bodybuilders do? Again im not saying that BBing is bad for health but what he is talking about is the LONGEST life expectancy. Which i would think lifting like a BB wouldnt be appropriate, going to gym 5/7 times a week and pushing your self to the limit and eating excess amounts of food
[quote]sen say wrote:
Years of scientific studies show that men who swallow other men’s man goo live 10 years longer than men that don’t…get on it now before it’s too late…obviously no one ever told your dad…but…it’s not too late…studies show even men as old as 53 that develop a taste for cum can turn back the clock dramatically…don’t let your dad deteriorate another minute…walk away from the computer and tell him about how the 2 of you are going to start sucking some cock together to make sure you don’t lose out on all your dreams and ambitions…no need to thank me…the smile on you and your dad’s jizz-covered faces will be thanks enough.
L’chaim![/quote]
Oh I read that!!! That was in GQ right?
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
How do you need to hear more about it? A stronger heart is more efficient, thus allowing it to use fewer beats to circulate blood through your body. A heart that uses fewer beats lasts longer, simply stated. Of course the human body has many other contributing factors, but this logic surrounding the heart has been scientifically proven, if you want to read more than I suggest doing a PubMed search.
Also, I suggest going out and doing your own research and learning, in every facet of life. Simply taking what others say as truth or law will get you in trouble.[/quote]
My logic was, physical activity makes your heart work harder, i.e. more beats, i.e. the heart wears out faster. I will do a pubmed search, but what I meant was, are there any specific terms or theories I should be on the lookout for? Or just look up keywords like exercise, heart, life expectancy, etc.
P.S. Just to make it clear, I’m not trying to get you to do any research for me, I’m just a dunce at this and you seem very knowledgeable.
Ophteta, love that moment from 30 rock!
Living longer is overrated. Quality >>>>>> Quantity.
[quote]silverhydra wrote:
‘Your bicep can only contract X amount of times, then it blows up, so don’t work out’.[/quote]
If this were true my arm would have fallen off a long time ago from beating off.
[quote]G87 wrote:
I’m not concerned about my nervous system. I’m just concerned about wearing my heart out.
Yeah, she’s basically telling me that that kind of extreme stress on your body (& heart) is really unhealthy.[/quote]
Your girlfriend has no clue what she’s talking about. Where in the hell did you get this idea that heavy lifting will wear your heart out? Oh that’s right your girlfriend. Heavy exercise strengthens the heart, it doesn’t weaken it. It’s not like your heart has some predetermined number of beats and you better not use them up with exercise. This is got to be the most retarded concept I’ve read on T-Nation today.
You’re not going to shorten your life from heavy lifting but you will from over-worrying about retarded concepts that have no foundation in fact.
[quote]Stength4life wrote:
[quote]sen say wrote:
Years of scientific studies show that men who swallow other men’s man goo live 10 years longer than men that don’t…get on it now before it’s too late…obviously no one ever told your dad…but…it’s not too late…studies show even men as old as 53 that develop a taste for cum can turn back the clock dramatically…don’t let your dad deteriorate another minute…walk away from the computer and tell him about how the 2 of you are going to start sucking some cock together to make sure you don’t lose out on all your dreams and ambitions…no need to thank me…the smile on you and your dad’s jizz-covered faces will be thanks enough.
L’chaim![/quote]
Oh I read that!!! That was in GQ right? [/quote]
AND Men’s Health and other smart magazines like that…
I try to help the guy and he gets all pissy.
[quote]DickBag wrote:
[quote]RSGZ wrote:
I’d be happy to live into my 70’s - but you can’t be guaranteed anything.
Just do as much as you can (and want to) as soon as you can. You could live the ‘perfect’ lifestyle and die in an accident.
Simple things to prolong your life would be don’t smoke, don’t drink/drink in very moderate amounts and exercise on the regular.[/quote]
This.
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I still love you.
[quote]G87 wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
How do you need to hear more about it? A stronger heart is more efficient, thus allowing it to use fewer beats to circulate blood through your body. A heart that uses fewer beats lasts longer, simply stated. Of course the human body has many other contributing factors, but this logic surrounding the heart has been scientifically proven, if you want to read more than I suggest doing a PubMed search.
Also, I suggest going out and doing your own research and learning, in every facet of life. Simply taking what others say as truth or law will get you in trouble.[/quote]
My logic was, physical activity makes your heart work harder, i.e. more beats, i.e. the heart wears out faster. I will do a pubmed search, but what I meant was, are there any specific terms or theories I should be on the lookout for? Or just look up keywords like exercise, heart, life expectancy, etc.
P.S. Just to make it clear, I’m not trying to get you to do any research for me, I’m just a dunce at this and you seem very knowledgeable.
Ophteta, love that moment from 30 rock![/quote]
Your 22. You mention all these things you want to do and your worried you will not have the time. And you also made a statement about your pops poor health at only 45. Sounds like your worry is making you age NOW!
Nothing wrong with a long healthy life or wanting one. But worring about it to much is also not good for you.You miss out on alot of living by doing this.
Start working on that list you have in your head NOW, get off your ass and start doing whatever RIGHT NOW. I see so many people in my line of work busting there ass day in and out. Planning for there tomorrow and after late nights and long days they finally see the end of the tunnel and die before they get to it.
And miss so much living inbetween.
i think the OP worries way to much. Just live life and enjoy yourself. Dont get all wrapped around the alxe with this stuff because you could get hit by a bus tomorrow.
haha or any vehicle for that matter. they will all do serious damage. when i was in highschool getting ready to enlist my mom was all worried so i kept telling her “hey i could get hit by a bus tomorrow” and then when my recruiter came to talk to my parents he said the exact same thing. haha she was not happy about that. anyway. dont worry so much
It’s quite simple, really.
Eat your vegetables.