[quote]ladieslove wrote:
[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
[quote]ladieslove wrote:
[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
Just stay out of the fucking squat rack on Mondays - seems simple enough to me.[/quote]
monday is when i need it![/quote]
If you look anything like your avi, you can have it anytime you want it.[/quote]
YES! … except my hair is darker now… [/quote]
NICE - T-Nation, I’ll fight any man that doesn’t let my newest fixation squat. Don’t start non won’t be non.
[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
[quote]ladieslove wrote:
[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
[quote]ladieslove wrote:
[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
Just stay out of the fucking squat rack on Mondays - seems simple enough to me.[/quote]
monday is when i need it![/quote]
If you look anything like your avi, you can have it anytime you want it.[/quote]
YES! … except my hair is darker now… [/quote]
NICE - T-Nation, I’ll fight any man that doesn’t let my newest fixation squat. Don’t start non won’t be non.
[/quote]
I don’t like the way your eyeballin my girl…
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
Haha I found a cool technique for dealing with this today, doing weighted dips.
Dip station was occupied by 3 skinny guys, none of whom are even sweating, doing half-assed sets of 4 or 5 bodyweight dips. Approach them:
Me: “How much longer you guys using this?”
One of them: “Well, I have 2 more sets, he has 2, and he has 1…you can work in.”
Me: “Ok.”
I get dip belt, plates I’m using for dips, bench to put weights on/stand on
I do my first warmup set
One of them does his next set.
I put the bench in position, throw a 45 on the dip belt, do my next warmup set
They leave the area.
H4M is victorious. [/quote]
I agree with H4M totally. This has to be the best way of dealing with half hearted wimps in the gym. Just ask to work in and when you’re lifting (2) to (3) times more than they are they just leave because they don’t have the balls or ego to stay and finish there piddly little workout.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
Haha I found a cool technique for dealing with this today, doing weighted dips.
Dip station was occupied by 3 skinny guys, none of whom are even sweating, doing half-assed sets of 4 or 5 bodyweight dips. Approach them:
Me: “How much longer you guys using this?”
One of them: “Well, I have 2 more sets, he has 2, and he has 1…you can work in.”
Me: “Ok.”
I get dip belt, plates I’m using for dips, bench to put weights on/stand on
I do my first warmup set
One of them does his next set.
I put the bench in position, throw a 45 on the dip belt, do my next warmup set
They leave the area.
H4M is victorious. [/quote]
I agree with H4M totally. This has to be the best way of dealing with half hearted wimps in the gym. Just ask to work in and when you’re lifting (2) to (3) times more than they are they just leave because they don’t have the balls or ego to stay and finish there piddly little workout.
I work out in a college gym so I’m extremely familier with the kind of bullshit you’re talking about. The worst is the guy doing curls in the squat rack with just the bar for 94028309 reps. Or even better is the guy doing dumbbell curls ON THE OLYMPIC WEIGHT PLATFORM just because there’s more mirror room there - I even had one retard tell me “I only have a couple more sets man” when I asked him (politely) that I needed to use the platform for deadlifts. I can’t wait to find a real gym…
You’d blow a gasket if you worked out at the YMCA I go to.
My take on this, is that back in the day, circa 1985 as you mentioned, the large majority of people who went to a gym took exercise seriously.
My belief is, that during that time, we had more of an emphasis on actually doing hard work, rather than some gimmicky shit we see everywhere today. Think about it, we did not have infomercials, or e-personal trainers in every corner handing out less than stellar advice. I think there was a mutual respect for people who just did some kind of exercise. I remember going to the local YMCA and playing basketball, or swimming in the pool, and didn’t see any kind of douchebaggery we see today. And this goes for both working out and nutrition. Since supplements were pretty new at this point, other than juice, I think people had more of a reliance on compliance with common sense eating. We didn’t see fast food on every corner, and I don’t think drive-thrus were around yet.
Fast forward to today…
The large majority of people who get their advice from the latest Cosmo or Flex article, or someone bringing some trinket they bought at 2am while killing down some Häagen-Dazs. These are the people who neither work hard enough to breathe heavy whether it’s cardio or weights, and spend more time doing curls, leg lifts, or crunches for hawt abz. I see people texting and talking on their cellphones while working out, or trying to get laid by the person decked out in every single piece of Ed Hardy bullshit he has every made. Sorry but there is no way in hell I would ever work out in an 80 dollar t-shirt. Society today has been brainwashed into thinking that athletes or Hollywood people who are in shape have reached a level that is unattainable by the average person. Anytime they see someone who is carrying around some decent muscle and who is fairly lean, boom they get accused of roiding. I am not even talking about a bodybuilders here, guys who are kinda jacked or ripped get it too.
I think the decline of gym etiquette is directly related to the change in mindset with people of today versus those of yesteryear. I am so glad I never fell into this bullshit, and I never will.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
My take on this, is that back in the day, circa 1985 as you mentioned, the large majority of people who went to a gym took exercise seriously.
My belief is, that during that time, we had more of an emphasis on actually doing hard work, rather than some gimmicky shit we see everywhere today. Think about it, we did not have infomercials, or e-personal trainers in every corner handing out less than stellar advice. I think there was a mutual respect for people who just did some kind of exercise. I remember going to the local YMCA and playing basketball, or swimming in the pool, and didn’t see any kind of douchebaggery we see today. And this goes for both working out and nutrition. Since supplements were pretty new at this point, other than juice, I think people had more of a reliance on compliance with common sense eating. We didn’t see fast food on every corner, and I don’t think drive-thrus were around yet.
Fast forward to today…
The large majority of people who get their advice from the latest Cosmo or Flex article, or someone bringing some trinket they bought at 2am while killing down some HÃ?¤agen-Dazs. These are the people who neither work hard enough to breathe heavy whether it’s cardio or weights, and spend more time doing curls, leg lifts, or crunches for hawt abz. I see people texting and talking on their cellphones while working out, or trying to get laid by the person decked out in every single piece of Ed Hardy bullshit he has every made. Sorry but there is no way in hell I would ever work out in an 80 dollar t-shirt. Society today has been brainwashed into thinking that athletes or Hollywood people who are in shape have reached a level that is unattainable by the average person. Anytime they see someone who is carrying around some decent muscle and who is fairly lean, boom they get accused of roiding. I am not even talking about a bodybuilders here, guys who are kinda jacked or ripped get it too.
I think the decline of gym etiquette is directly related to the change in mindset with people of today versus those of yesteryear. I am so glad I never fell into this bullshit, and I never will. [/quote]
quoted for the motherfuckin’ Truth
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
There used to be a code of conduct in the gym. If this were 1985, even though I was personally too young at the time, it would be common place for a local bodybuilding competitor to be allowed to work out at a gym for free. Hell, just seeing someone at that level training at the gym was likely to bring in even more clientele just from the motivation.
This level of respect is now completely gone and we do not really seem to be better off for it.
I was training chest at a gym that I ONLY go to in order to train chest because it is the only gym I have found in my area at all with the Hammer Strength laying flat press that I like to use. I also usually have no problem either working in with someone or simply asking how many sets someone has left. This usually leads to the person either letting me work in or quickly moving on with their workout especially if they are much weaker and really don’t have many set routine they are working from. The truth is, most will just get up when I ask because rarely anymore do I run into people who are really working hard when I ask in the first place.
However, this time, after finishing 4 sets of a previous exercise, I notice the guy I saw using the machine I came there for when I walked in is still on it…so I wait about 5 min doing calf raises after laying my things near his area (gym-ese for “I need to use this piece of equipment also”).
The guy is still on the machine doing the same “leg raise/flat press” with only one single 25lbs plate on each side, no strain on his face or in his muscles as his legs fly up in the air whenever he pushes the weight up…SLOWLY.
He may have weighed 130lbs at maybe 5’6" if that and was clearly just going through the motions.
I then asked, after waiting past 5min, “How many sets do you have left?”
His response with attitude, “I don’t know. I wasn’t really counting…maybe 15 more minutes”.
I assumed his “15 more minutes” was either not to be taken seriously or he was simply being an asshole who enjoyed making someone much bigger wait on the machine.
10 minutes passed and I was now getting pissed because he had now stripped the weight to only ONE SINGLE 10LBS PLATE ON EACH SIDE, my muscles and joints were cooling down and he had now been on the machine a total of 15 whole minutes past the time I initially needed to use the equipment…which was enough time for me to finish my first exercise, waste time waiting and then finish 3 sets on the incline press.
But I kept waiting…because clearly the argument is that he pays dues as well.
20 full minutes after I had initially asked if I could work in, the guy is still on the machine.
I then say, “DUDE, I need to use the machine and you’ve been on that one for nearly half an hour. Either get the fuck up or I’m going to get management”.
He gets up.
Why the fuck do we have to put up with this shit lately?
If you are in a public gym and you stay on a machine for over 15minutss, you had better either be near pro level in terms of strength and size denoting a true NEED to use it that long, or you need to get the fuck up and let someone who actually plans on seeing results use it.
Why the hell have gyms turned into play time for grown adults so they can try to piss off people actually there to work?[/quote]
Bro, seriously…
If I knew you wanted to work in that badly i would have let you!?!? I thought you were doing cardio over there on the calf raise machine!
There’s ALOT of that where I work out. One guy likes to bring a book every time he trains, and I timed him once, he spent 22 minutes on the leg press, doing 1 set of 600 point ‘push against the plate and nothing happens’-somethings. Then you have my favourite asshattery, using the pussy pad for squats, and safeties, screwing them real tight on, doing a set and leaving. Now I have to spend time taking off weight, pad and screws before squatting, not cool. Usually I find whoever did it and make them clean up their mess. Some bigger dudes have wanted to kill me for it I’m sure.
What works for me is being aggressive and insistant - if I can work in I will, if not I’ll stand and stare, making them finish faster.
[quote]Alpha wrote:
Bro, seriously…
If I knew you wanted to work in that badly i would have let you!?!? I thought you were doing cardio over there on the calf raise machine!
[/quote]
LOL.
Dude, you’re like “anti-Wimp”. I seriously doubt you and me would have problems in the gym ever.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
My take on this, is that back in the day, circa 1985 as you mentioned, the large majority of people who went to a gym took exercise seriously.
My belief is, that during that time, we had more of an emphasis on actually doing hard work, rather than some gimmicky shit we see everywhere today. Think about it, we did not have infomercials, or e-personal trainers in every corner handing out less than stellar advice. I think there was a mutual respect for people who just did some kind of exercise. I remember going to the local YMCA and playing basketball, or swimming in the pool, and didn’t see any kind of douchebaggery we see today. And this goes for both working out and nutrition. Since supplements were pretty new at this point, other than juice, I think people had more of a reliance on compliance with common sense eating. We didn’t see fast food on every corner, and I don’t think drive-thrus were around yet.
Fast forward to today…
The large majority of people who get their advice from the latest Cosmo or Flex article, or someone bringing some trinket they bought at 2am while killing down some HÃ?¤agen-Dazs. These are the people who neither work hard enough to breathe heavy whether it’s cardio or weights, and spend more time doing curls, leg lifts, or crunches for hawt abz. I see people texting and talking on their cellphones while working out, or trying to get laid by the person decked out in every single piece of Ed Hardy bullshit he has every made. Sorry but there is no way in hell I would ever work out in an 80 dollar t-shirt. Society today has been brainwashed into thinking that athletes or Hollywood people who are in shape have reached a level that is unattainable by the average person. Anytime they see someone who is carrying around some decent muscle and who is fairly lean, boom they get accused of roiding. I am not even talking about a bodybuilders here, guys who are kinda jacked or ripped get it too.
I think the decline of gym etiquette is directly related to the change in mindset with people of today versus those of yesteryear. I am so glad I never fell into this bullshit, and I never will. [/quote]
This is so true. The average girl thinks Taylor Lautner has achieved a higher level of being ripped than is possible than any other, when in fact there are a lot of school/university athletes very similar to him in physique
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
I’ve never really run into anyone that was that bad about hogging a machine or letting me work in.
I will be a huge asshole to guys that don’t rerack their plates.
I love it when I wait for someone to finish up and they start to walk off once they finish without unloading the bar or machine. I generally say “hey, you wanna re-rack your shit?” I think will stair at them (not helping) and then immediately start putting plates back on when they get them all unloaded.
To be clear, If a person asks what I want, or goes to unload it, I’ll help and have them leave what I want on it. I only do it to people who just go to walk off.[/quote]
Some ‘bro’ tried to start an argument with me when I asked him if he was going to rack it after doing curls with 50/60 pounds on the barbell. He tried to talk to me about why he wasn’t going to, but I had my headphones in and started my next set. I kinda wish I heard what he said now, so I could ridicule him even harder for it.
This past week I did a leg session, starting with some single leg squats and lunges. Then decided if I am to get some real results I have to get under the bar and do some back squats for some real gains. At the moment there were only two other people at the gym, I am a meager 195 lbs, and one of them having at least 40 lbs more muscle than me. In these cases I see what they are doing so I am not in the way of his obviously more serious training session. He was doing a chest/tricep routine, so I continued.
After he was done he came over and gave some very friendly and good advice on my hip movement during the squats, and showed his way of doing it. He adjusted my form, and even spotted me as the new bar placement was a bit awkward. He ended it by telling me a squat program (once a week, 2 warmups, then 4x4, increase such and such every week).
Anyway, I respected him, and he gave me invaluable advice. And as Professor X mentions, when people who has gotten obviously good results, and has something to say, we smaller folks should listen, take notes and do!
This past week I did a leg session, starting with some single leg squats and lunges. Then decided if I am to get some real results I have to get under the bar and do some back squats for some real gains. At the moment there were only two other people at the gym, I am a meager 195 lbs, and one of them having at least 40 lbs more muscle than me. In these cases I see what they are doing so I am not in the way of his obviously more serious training session. He was doing a chest/tricep routine, so I continued.
After he was done he came over and gave some very friendly and good advice on my hip movement during the squats, and showed his way of doing it. He adjusted my form, and even spotted me as the new bar placement was a bit awkward. He ended it by telling me a squat program (once a week, 2 warmups, then 4x4, increase such and such every week).
Anyway, I respected him, and he gave me invaluable advice. And as Professor X mentions, when people who has gotten obviously good results, and has something to say, we smaller folks should listen, take notes and do!
[quote]Kmallette wrote:
I work out in a college gym so I’m extremely familier with the kind of bullshit you’re talking about. The worst is the guy doing curls in the squat rack with just the bar for 94028309 reps. Or even better is the guy doing dumbbell curls ON THE OLYMPIC WEIGHT PLATFORM just because there’s more mirror room there - I even had one retard tell me “I only have a couple more sets man” when I asked him (politely) that I needed to use the platform for deadlifts. I can’t wait to find a real gym…[/quote]
The worst thing about college gyms are the group of 4-5 guys that show up everyday just to bench and curl.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
There used to be a code of conduct in the gym. If this were 1985, even though I was personally too young at the time, it would be common place for a local bodybuilding competitor to be allowed to work out at a gym for free. Hell, just seeing someone at that level training at the gym was likely to bring in even more clientele just from the motivation.
This level of respect is now completely gone and we do not really seem to be better off for it.
I was training chest at a gym that I ONLY go to in order to train chest because it is the only gym I have found in my area at all with the Hammer Strength laying flat press that I like to use. I also usually have no problem either working in with someone or simply asking how many sets someone has left.
This usually leads to the person either letting me work in or quickly moving on with their workout especially if they are much weaker and really don’t have many set routine they are working from. The truth is, most will just get up when I ask because rarely anymore do I run into people who are really working hard when I ask in the first place.
However, this time, after finishing 4 sets of a previous exercise, I notice the guy I saw using the machine I came there for when I walked in is still on it…so I wait about 5 min doing calf raises after laying my things near his area (gym-ese for “I need to use this piece of equipment also”).
The guy is still on the machine doing the same “leg raise/flat press” with only one single 25lbs plate on each side, no strain on his face or in his muscles as his legs fly up in the air whenever he pushes the weight up…SLOWLY.
He may have weighed 130lbs at maybe 5’6" if that and was clearly just going through the motions.
I then asked, after waiting past 5min, “How many sets do you have left?”
His response with attitude, “I don’t know. I wasn’t really counting…maybe 15 more minutes”.
I assumed his “15 more minutes” was either not to be taken seriously or he was simply being an asshole who enjoyed making someone much bigger wait on the machine.
10 minutes passed and I was now getting pissed because he had now stripped the weight to only ONE SINGLE 10LBS PLATE ON EACH SIDE, my muscles and joints were cooling down and he had now been on the machine a total of 15 whole minutes past the time I initially needed to use the equipment…which was enough time for me to finish my first exercise, waste time waiting and then finish 3 sets on the incline press.
But I kept waiting…because clearly the argument is that he pays dues as well.
20 full minutes after I had initially asked if I could work in, the guy is still on the machine.
I then say, “DUDE, I need to use the machine and you’ve been on that one for nearly half an hour. Either get the fuck up or I’m going to get management”.
He gets up.
Why the fuck do we have to put up with this shit lately?
If you are in a public gym and you stay on a machine for over 15minutss, you had better either be near pro level in terms of strength and size denoting a true NEED to use it that long, or you need to get the fuck up and let someone who actually plans on seeing results use it.
Why the hell have gyms turned into play time for grown adults so they can try to piss off people actually there to work?[/quote]
This is endemic to all gyms that I’ve been to, sadly. Usually it is the little guy with a Napoleon complex or basic size insecurity that likes to fuck with the larger guy. Either that or people using machines or weights in a manner that truly defies common sense or safety
Bottom line either the guy was truly out to lunch & that is his real attitude or he was messing with you trying to get your goat. Good thing you cut him the real deal & didn’t go open a can of Costco sized whupass on him.
So, have you worked out at that gym since & run into him again? Does he know know to make nice & share the damn equipment?
“Unless you own the gym the equipment is to be shared” - this sign should be on a wall in every gym
[quote]goldengloves wrote:
[quote]Kmallette wrote:
I work out in a college gym so I’m extremely familier with the kind of bullshit you’re talking about. The worst is the guy doing curls in the squat rack with just the bar for 94028309 reps. Or even better is the guy doing dumbbell curls ON THE OLYMPIC WEIGHT PLATFORM just because there’s more mirror room there - I even had one retard tell me “I only have a couple more sets man” when I asked him (politely) that I needed to use the platform for deadlifts. I can’t wait to find a real gym…[/quote]
The worst thing about college gyms are the group of 4-5 guys that show up everyday just to bench and curl.[/quote]
That’s pretty much every gym…not just college.
It’s weird watching the progression in the gym. Guy comes in alone, does some sort of circuit but atleast hits his whole body. Couple of weeks pass, he’s made friends. 1 more week and he starts working out with his friends. Instead of doing a full body split, guy and his friends become “bros” and focus on bench and curls and nothing but. I don’t know how many times I’ve seen that in the past few years.
I don’t mind the bench/curl brigade, because ultimately they won’t be taking my equipment (apart from hogging the smith). I usually have every bit of leg equipment to myself and any dumbells over about 30kg.
I also train at home now because of this kind of shit.
There was a guy at the place I used to train at who would take up a bench to put his towel, newspaper and cup of coffee. He would go over to the dumbell rack or other area, do a bizarre exercise, come back to the bench and read the paper for 5-10mins then go back and do another set.