[quote]red04 wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]red04 wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
Kevin English, 5’7", looking rather Palumboesque and competing in 212 or 202 class. [/quote]
280 pounds offseason weight? You do realise you are just proving my point further here.
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So your friend has like, 40 pounds of water to lose to be in contest condition from 6% bodyfat? I mean that still puts him at 185 on stage at 5’6 which would be pretty fucking disgusting, especially considering he kind of hates bodybuilding and just ‘sort of eats protein and salads and whatnot.’
I also find it amazing that despite this diet that would keep a person pretty low as far as water retention goes, that he is apparently holding ridiculous amounts of water.
How do you get internet under a bridge?[/quote]
40 lbs no. The point I’m making is that ANYONE can drop 15% of their bodyweight with diuretics and the host of other tricks used to drop water.
As with most weight class based sports if you can squeeze into a lower class whilst actually carrying way more muscle then you are at a massive advantage. Thats why people go to such drastic lengths to make weight categories.
People on here seem to be quoting the best of the best bodybuilders competition weights like that’s their “normal” weight and status.
If you deplete water, your bodyfat levels do not change at all. Does anyone here actually think LBM changes as well when people deplete water? It just ain’t that fucking simple. Its a manipulation.
I’ll repeat my point for clarity again with some examples.
Flex wheeler
Off season he walks around at apprx 270-280. Lets say he is 12% bf off season max which based on how he looks most of the time i think is a fair judgement. That gives the following…
247lb of LBM, 33lbs of bodyfat.
When he diets down to 6% bodyfat, he loses 15lbs of fat. He obv uses anabolics so will not lose muscle.
That takes him to 247lb of LBM, and aprx 15lbs of bodyfat. Now how does he weigh in at 225? Does he lose muscle? Fuck no, you want to keep all that muscle and just squeeze it down so it looks nice and dry and dense and freaking awesome on stage, so what you do is drink a ton of deionised water, then cut your water intake and hop on the lasix. Not quite there yet? Hop in the sauna. You can lose up to 15% of water before you risk death, and tolerance varies from person to person.
15% removed from 247 lb + 15 lb equals 223lbs. Is this any coincidence? He’s at the maximum level of development which he can squeeze into his weight class.
Now some retards on here think they can compared him to someone who with no drugs at all is walking around at 225. If he dehydrated and used diuretics he could hit a stage at 191 MAX since he may weight less in the morning.
Is it really that hard to believe?
I think because people haven’t achieved such things themselves they have to shit on other peoples achievements. Purely because they don’t appreciate that there could be other people out there way fucking more dedicated, better educated and disciplined and humble enough not to want to walk around in posing trunks or feel the need to prove or justify themselves to a bunch of strangers on internet.
Post some more drug assisted pictures if you want but it means nothing and proves you have absolutely no logical refutation to my argument. Most likely because you know I’m right and you are probably just trying to troll me for laughs.
And still NO-ONE has put forward the FUCKING MAGIC NUMBER COMBINATION OF LBM AND BF THAT PROVES SOMEONE IS USING STEROIDS. I wonder why? Because you can’t do its an exercise in futility.
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You have very poor reasoning skills, and apparently an awful understanding of math and simple biology.
But at least that bridge provides incredible shelter from inclement weather, and amazing shade.[/quote]
That’s interesting, because you haven’t exactly wowed anyone with your intelligent contributions. Just an arrogant “I’m right” attitude with no logic, reasoning or debate in any of your posts.
Until you prove otherwise your insults apply only to yourself, which is pretty cool!