[quote]rds63799 wrote:
sigh
nice pics bro. Any of a natty at 225 and 6%?[/quote]
So you are conveniently ignoring what I posted without dicussing it.
[quote]steven alex wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
The boob analogy is the definition of a straw man.
MassiveGuns, two questions for you if you don’t mind. A. What two lifters are you talking about questioning their natural status two their face? B. Do you in fact have massive guns? If so do you have a picture and training tips? Thank you.[/quote]
Well put.
I don’t think massive gunz got the memo that his friend has the same dimensions(and a natty to boot) as top(assisted) IFBB pros.
Just astounding.[/quote]
The world is round. NEWSFLASH!
[/quote]
Not only my friend, but wade johnson and bud jeffries. Both 300+ strength monsters accepted as natural lifters. But of course they can’t exist because statistics says so. [/quote]
Dude people can reach a bloaty 300lbs natty…people cannot get to 225lbs at 5’7" and 6% bodyfat natty.
Or maybe they can…but NEWSFLASH! nobody has ever seen it.[/quote]
Nobody in your sample selection. And of course an internet lifting forum represents the entire human race. I mean between the 50 or so people in this thread they all are on speaking terms with the other 6 billion, so we know that since no-one here has seen someone freaky natty that such people don’t exist.
What would bud jeffries or wade johnson look like if all they ate was protein and salad all day? Its not that big a stretch to see its possible.
[/quote]
I’ll absolutely concede that there could be some freak out there that could do this(natty that is)…no question.
But until that person comes outside into the sunshine then it is just a myth.
But I take it your friend did his gaining at a pretty low bodyfat right? I mean eating meat and salad all day long is a pretty strict diet.
So that kinda proves that a lean person can gain a ton of size, right?[/quote]
I think people have no idea what a true 6% bf looks like. The best assisted Bbers are at this and they have amazing genetics
[/quote]
Do they have 14 inch dicks?
[/quote]
Why the fascination with dicks?[/quote]
My therapist asked me the same thing.
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]steven alex wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
The boob analogy is the definition of a straw man.
MassiveGuns, two questions for you if you don’t mind. A. What two lifters are you talking about questioning their natural status two their face? B. Do you in fact have massive guns? If so do you have a picture and training tips? Thank you.[/quote]
Well put.
I don’t think massive gunz got the memo that his friend has the same dimensions(and a natty to boot) as top(assisted) IFBB pros.
Just astounding.[/quote]
The world is round. NEWSFLASH!
[/quote]
Not only my friend, but wade johnson and bud jeffries. Both 300+ strength monsters accepted as natural lifters. But of course they can’t exist because statistics says so. [/quote]
Dude people can reach a bloaty 300lbs natty…people cannot get to 225lbs at 5’7" and 6% bodyfat natty.
Or maybe they can…but NEWSFLASH! nobody has ever seen it.[/quote]
Nobody in your sample selection. And of course an internet lifting forum represents the entire human race. I mean between the 50 or so people in this thread they all are on speaking terms with the other 6 billion, so we know that since no-one here has seen someone freaky natty that such people don’t exist.
What would bud jeffries or wade johnson look like if all they ate was protein and salad all day? Its not that big a stretch to see its possible.
[/quote]
I’ll absolutely concede that there could be some freak out there that could do this(natty that is)…no question.
But until that person comes outside into the sunshine then it is just a myth.
But I take it your friend did his gaining at a pretty low bodyfat right? I mean eating meat and salad all day long is a pretty strict diet.
So that kinda proves that a lean person can gain a ton of size, right?[/quote]
I think people have no idea what a true 6% bf looks like. The best assisted Bbers are at this and they have amazing genetics
[/quote]
Do they have 14 inch dicks?
[/quote]
Why the fascination with dicks?[/quote]
My therapist asked me the same thing.
[/quote]
LOL
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Unless your 5’6", 225, 6% bf buddy’s been hidin’ that too…[/quote]
LOL!
I bet that’s why he asked![/quote]
Whats the magic number. (14 doesn’t count)
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Unless your 5’6", 225, 6% bf buddy’s been hidin’ that too…[/quote]
LOL!
I bet that’s why he asked![/quote]
Whats the magic number. (14 doesn’t count)[/quote]
I thought 42 was the answer to everything
[quote]steven alex wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Unless your 5’6", 225, 6% bf buddy’s been hidin’ that too…[/quote]
LOL!
I bet that’s why he asked![/quote]
Whats the magic number. (14 doesn’t count)[/quote]
I thought 42 was the answer to everything[/quote]
or is it 23?
that film freaked me out
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
His friend walks around like this, only two inches taller. [/quote]
I find it hilarious that all you do is post pictures without posting any sound arguments or refutations to mine. I’ve called you on you shite and you apologised, but AGAIN conveniently ignored answering my points. And apparently I’m trolling! Fuck me I just saw a unicorn.
[/quote]
his pictures do refute your points. That’s the reason he’s posting them.
He’s posting what guys with the stats your imaginary BFF look like.[/quote]
He has the X like ability to completely ignore this obvious post, that totally destroys any possible argument that he is making.
Here it comes.[/quote]
I’m not ignoring it at all. Pictures prove nothing. They do not take into account bone density and skeletal weight, particular build etc. Bodybuilding is about more than just scale weight.
Arthur saxon was 5 10 at 220.
take a good look
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Not anywhere remotely close to 6% bodyfat…so saying your friend could do it because Arthur was 220 is…well, retarded.
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
sigh
nice pics bro. Any of a natty at 225 and 6%?[/quote]
Not gonna happen. And with everyone being so negative why on would you think it would happen?
[/quote]
lol
didn’t think so
you have trolled and trolled well, sir
[quote]steven alex wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
The boob analogy is the definition of a straw man.
MassiveGuns, two questions for you if you don’t mind. A. What two lifters are you talking about questioning their natural status two their face? B. Do you in fact have massive guns? If so do you have a picture and training tips? Thank you.[/quote]
Well put.
I don’t think massive gunz got the memo that his friend has the same dimensions(and a natty to boot) as top(assisted) IFBB pros.
Just astounding.[/quote]
The world is round. NEWSFLASH!
[/quote]
Not only my friend, but wade johnson and bud jeffries. Both 300+ strength monsters accepted as natural lifters. But of course they can’t exist because statistics says so. [/quote]
Dude people can reach a bloaty 300lbs natty…people cannot get to 225lbs at 5’7" and 6% bodyfat natty.
Or maybe they can…but NEWSFLASH! nobody has ever seen it.[/quote]
Nobody in your sample selection. And of course an internet lifting forum represents the entire human race. I mean between the 50 or so people in this thread they all are on speaking terms with the other 6 billion, so we know that since no-one here has seen someone freaky natty that such people don’t exist.
What would bud jeffries or wade johnson look like if all they ate was protein and salad all day? Its not that big a stretch to see its possible.
[/quote]
I’ll absolutely concede that there could be some freak out there that could do this(natty that is)…no question.
But until that person comes outside into the sunshine then it is just a myth.
But I take it your friend did his gaining at a pretty low bodyfat right? I mean eating meat and salad all day long is a pretty strict diet.
So that kinda proves that a lean person can gain a ton of size, right?[/quote]
I think people have no idea what a true 6% bf looks like. The best assisted Bbers are at this and they have amazing genetics
[/quote]
Do they have 14 inch dicks?
[/quote]
Why the fascination with dicks?[/quote]
How many dicks does it take to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop?
What’s going on here?
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
His friend walks around like this, only two inches taller. [/quote]
I find it hilarious that all you do is post pictures without posting any sound arguments or refutations to mine. I’ve called you on you shite and you apologised, but AGAIN conveniently ignored answering my points. And apparently I’m trolling! Fuck me I just saw a unicorn.
[/quote]
his pictures do refute your points. That’s the reason he’s posting them.
He’s posting what guys with the stats your imaginary BFF look like.[/quote]
He has the X like ability to completely ignore this obvious post, that totally destroys any possible argument that he is making.
Here it comes.[/quote]
I’m not ignoring it at all. Pictures prove nothing. They do not take into account bone density and skeletal weight, particular build etc. Bodybuilding is about more than just scale weight.
Arthur saxon was 5 10 at 220.
take a good look
[/quote]
Now heres flex wheeler at a competitve weight of 220 i believe. an inch shorter but thats close enough right. Quite a difference?
Chemicals and overall build make a HUGE difference to how someone looks at a given weight. Off season he is 265, and doesnt get too fat i think. So with diuretics he is squeezing a fuckload more muscle into that weight. Pictures prove a point?
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The only thing this pic proves is that your hommie looks as good as Flex… as a natty…year round.
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
sigh
nice pics bro. Any of a natty at 225 and 6%?[/quote]
Not gonna happen. And with everyone being so negative why on would you think it would happen?
[/quote]
you have trolled and trolled well, sir[/quote]
Yep, that was a solid effort.
MassiveGuns, those were horrible photos to post to prove your point. You never answered my question about whether or not you do indeed posses massive guns? If so I would like some tips because my arm development is lacking.
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
MassiveGuns, those were horrible photos to post to prove your point. You never answered my question about whether or not you do indeed posses massive guns? If so I would like some tips because my arm development is lacking.[/quote]
LOL…don’t scare the troll dude, he is on a role.
But I too am curious about how he built his massive guns.
This actually reeks of everybody’s favorite all time troll…GoHeavyFool.
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
MassiveGuns, those were horrible photos to post to prove your point. You never answered my question about whether or not you do indeed posses massive guns? If so I would like some tips because my arm development is lacking.[/quote]
Would a photo of my dick prove anything?
Inject your arms directly with short estered gear and gh. Do it for ages and lift some heavy shit. Job done.
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
His friend walks around like this, only two inches taller. [/quote]
I find it hilarious that all you do is post pictures without posting any sound arguments or refutations to mine. I’ve called you on you shite and you apologised, but AGAIN conveniently ignored answering my points. And apparently I’m trolling! Fuck me I just saw a unicorn.
[/quote]
his pictures do refute your points. That’s the reason he’s posting them.
He’s posting what guys with the stats your imaginary BFF look like.[/quote]
He has the X like ability to completely ignore this obvious post, that totally destroys any possible argument that he is making.
Here it comes.[/quote]
I’m not ignoring it at all. Pictures prove nothing. They do not take into account bone density and skeletal weight, particular build etc. Bodybuilding is about more than just scale weight.
Arthur saxon was 5 10 at 220.
take a good look
[/quote]
Now heres flex wheeler at a competitve weight of 220 i believe. an inch shorter but thats close enough right. Quite a difference?
Chemicals and overall build make a HUGE difference to how someone looks at a given weight. Off season he is 265, and doesnt get too fat i think. So with diuretics he is squeezing a fuckload more muscle into that weight. Pictures prove a point?
[/quote]
You know what makes the difference I that pic. Sure structure and insertions. It’s body fat. First one the guy is high teens. Flex is 4.5-5. That is the point if pictures. To show what someone at a weight height and bf will look. Obviously some difference for structure but its not gonna be a massive difference
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
His friend walks around like this, only two inches taller. [/quote]
I find it hilarious that all you do is post pictures without posting any sound arguments or refutations to mine. I’ve called you on you shite and you apologised, but AGAIN conveniently ignored answering my points. And apparently I’m trolling! Fuck me I just saw a unicorn.
R
[/quote]
his pictures do refute your points. That’s the reason he’s posting them.
He’s posting what guys with the stats your imaginary BFF look like.[/quote]
He has the X like ability to completely ignore this obvious post, that totally destroys any possible argument that he is making.
Here it comes.[/quote]
I’m not ignoring it at all. Pictures prove nothing. They do not take into account bone density and skeletal weight, particular build etc. Bodybuilding is about more than just scale weight.
Arthur saxon was 5 10 at 220.
take a good look
[/quote]
Now heres flex wheeler at a competitve weight of 220 i believe. an inch shorter but thats close enough right. Quite a difference?
Chemicals and overall build make a HUGE difference to how someone looks at a given weight. Off season he is 265, and doesnt get too fat i think. So with diuretics he is squeezing a fuckload more muscle into that weight. Pictures prove a point?
[/quote]
You know what makes the difference I that pic. Sure structure and insertions. It’s body fat. First one the guy is high teens. Flex is 4.5-5. That is the point if pictures. To show what someone at a weight height and bf will look. Obviously some difference for structure but its not gonna be a massive difference [/quote]
The point is that flex without contest drugs is 45! Pounds heavier, but somehow is fair game for comparison to a natty at an unassisted weight of 225. The fact they are the same weight but flex is seriously dehydrated is apparently lost on people here.
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
His friend walks around like this, only two inches taller. [/quote]
I find it hilarious that all you do is post pictures without posting any sound arguments or refutations to mine. I’ve called you on you shite and you apologised, but AGAIN conveniently ignored answering my points. And apparently I’m trolling! Fuck me I just saw a unicorn.
R
[/quote]
his pictures do refute your points. That’s the reason he’s posting them.
He’s posting what guys with the stats your imaginary BFF look like.[/quote]
He has the X like ability to completely ignore this obvious post, that totally destroys any possible argument that he is making.
Here it comes.[/quote]
I’m not ignoring it at all. Pictures prove nothing. They do not take into account bone density and skeletal weight, particular build etc. Bodybuilding is about more than just scale weight.
Arthur saxon was 5 10 at 220.
take a good look
[/quote]
Now heres flex wheeler at a competitve weight of 220 i believe. an inch shorter but thats close enough right. Quite a difference?
Chemicals and overall build make a HUGE difference to how someone looks at a given weight. Off season he is 265, and doesnt get too fat i think. So with diuretics he is squeezing a fuckload more muscle into that weight. Pictures prove a point?
[/quote]
You know what makes the difference I that pic. Sure structure and insertions. It’s body fat. First one the guy is high teens. Flex is 4.5-5. That is the point if pictures. To show what someone at a weight height and bf will look. Obviously some difference for structure but its not gonna be a massive difference [/quote]
The point is that flex without contest drugs is 45! Pounds heavier, but somehow is fair game for comparison to a natty at an unassisted weight of 225. The fact they are the same weight but flex is seriously dehydrated is apparently lost on people here.
[/quote]
Flex competing in the 212 class.
Kevin English, 5’7", looking rather Palumboesque and competing in 212 or 202 class.
Guns…with all the photos of IBFF pros at the height and weight of your buddy…are you still sticking to the 5’7" 220 and 6% body fat as a natty YEAR ROUND…or can you see that is just a tad out there?
Marc Dugdale, 5’6", offseason weight listed on the net at 245.