So your friend is leaner and heavier than this despite being 4 inches shorter, and natural?
Smells like bullshit to me.
Have fun training with Drop Dead Bodybuilder Fred…
and not just heavier, TWENTY FIVE POUNDS HEAVIER.
lol
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
Would you say that to their face if you met them?
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I always love this line, because first, it’s asked as if there are no rude people around, and second, the people being confronted will likely not do a damn thing aside from ignoring the rude person or just talking back to them, either neutrally or rudely as well. Physically, it’s unlikely they’ll do anything because some guy says, “I think you’re on 'roids” unless they don’t mind spending some time in jail (or prison).
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
this guy is 6 foot, 200lbs. I think we can agree he’s probably about 8% bodyfat yeah?
So your friend is leaner and heavier than this despite being 4 inches shorter, and natural?
Smells like bullshit to me.
Have fun training with Drop Dead Bodybuilder Fred…[/quote]
I’ll ask you the tits question, since nobody else has attempted to answer it. Ever had your hands on a ridiculously massive pair of tits that didn’t sag and were perky as hell?
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
Would you say that to their face if you met them?
[/quote]
I always love this line, because first, it’s asked as if there are no rude people around, and second, the people being confronted will likely not do a damn thing aside from ignoring the rude person or just talking back to them, either neutrally or rudely as well. Physically, it’s unlikely they’ll do anything because some guy says, “I think you’re on 'roids” unless they don’t mind spending some time in jail (or prison). [/quote]
Why not answer the rest of my post? Would you accuse these people of steroid use? If not, then you and anyone else who wouldn’t, is a hypocrite, because you are claiming an objective ability to assess whether or not someone has used PEDS based purely on lifting performance and body composition.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
Would you say that to their face if you met them?
[/quote]
I always love this line, because first, it’s asked as if there are no rude people around, and second, the people being confronted will likely not do a damn thing aside from ignoring the rude person or just talking back to them, either neutrally or rudely as well. Physically, it’s unlikely they’ll do anything because some guy says, “I think you’re on 'roids” unless they don’t mind spending some time in jail (or prison). [/quote]
So you would then or not? Instead of dancing around the issue would you accuse them or not? If not why not?
steven alex wrote:
" If X is twenty plus then this lad must be seventy percent fat but then both have their shirts on. X looks more jacked than this bloke though dont you think? Both have man boobs but I reckon X has to be carrying a bit less fat than him surely. Its obvious though that even though they both had different goals one seeking strength the other muscle gain both followed the same gain fat as an assist mentality "
I might have missed the memo, but from what a science guy like him did/achieved, he never intended to gain muscles.
He might have had an image problem or whatever, he decided to get big/impressive, well at least in his mind.
To cover up the fat/easy gains he uses words like fullhouse, training, muscles, etc . . .
I was not there many years back but his fast typing(faster than his brain hopefully) includes eat BIG, when you are full keep on eating. I am real strong but that accident, that injury are why i use smaller loads.
For a great achiever being afraid of getting in the pool it is clear he wants to live in the shadow.
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
Would you say that to their face if you met them?
[/quote]
I always love this line, because first, it’s asked as if there are no rude people around, and second, the people being confronted will likely not do a damn thing aside from ignoring the rude person or just talking back to them, either neutrally or rudely as well. Physically, it’s unlikely they’ll do anything because some guy says, “I think you’re on 'roids” unless they don’t mind spending some time in jail (or prison). [/quote]
So you would then or not? Instead of dancing around the issue would you accuse them or not? If not why not?[/quote]
I discuss it on an objective and EDUCATIONAL basis. Yes, educational, for the purpose of some people not getting their thinking muddled and be lied to so easily. For example, if someone says Skip La Cour is natural, I will disagree and say so. Would it come up in conversation if I met Skip? Highly unlikely. What am I going to do, walk up to some guy I don’t know, and say, “Excuse me, I think you’re on drugs.” No, because I have no interest to start conversations of that sort, nor do I approach people like that. And in that context, I wouldn’t care anyway. What am I going to do, police all the liars of the fitness world? That would be a whole lot of policing! Haha!
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
Would you say that to their face if you met them?
[/quote]
I always love this line, because first, it’s asked as if there are no rude people around, and second, the people being confronted will likely not do a damn thing aside from ignoring the rude person or just talking back to them, either neutrally or rudely as well. Physically, it’s unlikely they’ll do anything because some guy says, “I think you’re on 'roids” unless they don’t mind spending some time in jail (or prison). [/quote]
So you would then or not? Instead of dancing around the issue would you accuse them or not? If not why not?[/quote]
I discuss it on an objective and EDUCATIONAL basis. Yes, educational, for the purpose of some people not getting their thinking muddled and be lied to so easily. For example, if someone says Skip La Cour is natural, I will disagree and say so. Would it come up in conversation if I met Skip? Highly unlikely. What am I going to do, walk up to some guy I don’t know, and say, “Excuse me, I think you’re on drugs.” No, because I have no interest to start conversations of that sort, nor do I approach people like that. And in that context, I wouldn’t care anyway. What am I going to do, police all the liars of the fitness world? That would be a whole lot of policing! Haha![/quote]
You still haven’t answered my question directly. Would you accuse these two high profile drug free lifters of drug use, and would you do it to their face. Rudeness aside, would you calmly tell them that there’s no way they achieved that level of development naturally because you worked it out using statistics? What do you think they would do?
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
Would you say that to their face if you met them?
[/quote]
I always love this line, because first, it’s asked as if there are no rude people around, and second, the people being confronted will likely not do a damn thing aside from ignoring the rude person or just talking back to them, either neutrally or rudely as well. Physically, it’s unlikely they’ll do anything because some guy says, “I think you’re on 'roids” unless they don’t mind spending some time in jail (or prison). [/quote]
So you would then or not? Instead of dancing around the issue would you accuse them or not? If not why not?[/quote]
I discuss it on an objective and EDUCATIONAL basis. Yes, educational, for the purpose of some people not getting their thinking muddled and be lied to so easily. For example, if someone says Skip La Cour is natural, I will disagree and say so. Would it come up in conversation if I met Skip? Highly unlikely. What am I going to do, walk up to some guy I don’t know, and say, “Excuse me, I think you’re on drugs.” No, because I have no interest to start conversations of that sort, nor do I approach people like that. And in that context, I wouldn’t care anyway. What am I going to do, police all the liars of the fitness world? That would be a whole lot of policing! Haha![/quote]
You still haven’t answered my question directly. Would you accuse these two high profile drug free lifters of drug use, and would you do it to their face. Rudeness aside, would you calmly tell them that there’s no way they achieved that level of development naturally because you worked it out using statistics? What do you think they would do?
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I’m unsure of what two lifters you’re speaking.
My reaction to such people would depend on if I knew them well enough to assess whether they’re fucking nuts or not ( willing to throw down and risk prison time because some guy said “you’re on 'roids” or not). Sorry, I’m not willing to put myself in a physical altercation with some nut because he got his feelings hurt. If I assess the guy is a liar and is otherwise well mannered and behaved, I’d probably say something.
In the same way, I wouldn’t crack someone if I was accused of using 'roids when I was considerably bigger and stronger than I am today.
Anyway, I don’t associate with liars or nuts (someone willing to throw down because I suspect drug use and hurt their tender feelings in the process), so this is highly unlikely.
I don’t assume or know what the heck strangers would do without assessing their personality and background.
By the way, it’s ridiculous for a person concerned with their own well being to slug some guy because he said “you’re not natural”.
PS: I’d LOVE to throw down with SOME people out of pure anger, even if it meant physical injury to myself, but because I don’t want to have my life destroyed by going to jail or prison, I refrain from hostile behavior in general, even though it would admittedly feel SO good.
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
Have fun training with Drop Dead Bodybuilder Fred…[/quote]
Drop Dead Fred??? LOL… now i feel old…
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
this guy is 6 foot, 200lbs. I think we can agree he’s probably about 8% bodyfat yeah?
So your friend is leaner and heavier than this despite being 4 inches shorter, and natural?
Smells like bullshit to me.
Have fun training with Drop Dead Bodybuilder Fred…[/quote]
I’ll ask you the tits question, since nobody else has attempted to answer it. Ever had your hands on a ridiculously massive pair of tits that didn’t sag and were perky as hell?
[/quote]
I have. Whats the punchline?
[quote]dt79 wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
this guy is 6 foot, 200lbs. I think we can agree he’s probably about 8% bodyfat yeah?
So your friend is leaner and heavier than this despite being 4 inches shorter, and natural?
Smells like bullshit to me.
Have fun training with Drop Dead Bodybuilder Fred…[/quote]
I’ll ask you the tits question, since nobody else has attempted to answer it. Ever had your hands on a ridiculously massive pair of tits that didn’t sag and were perky as hell?
[/quote]
I have. Whats the punchline?[/quote]
Were they real, or fake?
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
Would you say that to their face if you met them?
[/quote]
I always love this line, because first, it’s asked as if there are no rude people around, and second, the people being confronted will likely not do a damn thing aside from ignoring the rude person or just talking back to them, either neutrally or rudely as well. Physically, it’s unlikely they’ll do anything because some guy says, “I think you’re on 'roids” unless they don’t mind spending some time in jail (or prison). [/quote]
So you would then or not? Instead of dancing around the issue would you accuse them or not? If not why not?[/quote]
I discuss it on an objective and EDUCATIONAL basis. Yes, educational, for the purpose of some people not getting their thinking muddled and be lied to so easily. For example, if someone says Skip La Cour is natural, I will disagree and say so. Would it come up in conversation if I met Skip? Highly unlikely. What am I going to do, walk up to some guy I don’t know, and say, “Excuse me, I think you’re on drugs.” No, because I have no interest to start conversations of that sort, nor do I approach people like that. And in that context, I wouldn’t care anyway. What am I going to do, police all the liars of the fitness world? That would be a whole lot of policing! Haha![/quote]
You still haven’t answered my question directly. Would you accuse these two high profile drug free lifters of drug use, and would you do it to their face. Rudeness aside, would you calmly tell them that there’s no way they achieved that level of development naturally because you worked it out using statistics? What do you think they would do?
[/quote]
I’m unsure of what two lifters you’re speaking.
My reaction to such people would depend on if I knew them well enough to assess whether they’re fucking nuts or not ( willing to throw down and risk prison time because some guy said “you’re on 'roids” or not). Sorry, I’m not willing to put myself in a physical altercation with some nut because he got his feelings hurt. If I assess the guy is a liar and is otherwise well mannered and behaved, I’d probably say something.
In the same way, I wouldn’t crack someone if I was accused of using 'roids when I was considerably bigger and stronger than I am today.
Anyway, I don’t associate with liars or nuts (someone willing to throw down because I suspect drug use and hurt their tender feelings in the process), so this is highly unlikely.
I don’t assume or know what the heck strangers would do without assessing their personality and background.
By the way, it’s ridiculous for a person concerned with their own well being to slug some guy because he said “you’re not natural”.
PS: I’d LOVE to throw down with SOME people out of pure anger, even if it meant physical injury to myself, but because I don’t want to have my life destroyed by going to jail or prison, I refrain from hostile behavior in general, even though it would admittedly feel SO good.
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WTF are you babbling about. You sound like you just took a hit off a crack pipe.
Still haven’t answered my question directly. Why don’t you do look them both up, do a little research and then answer the question YOU WERE ASKED properly, instead of avoiding it.
I’m guessing you already know who they are but since they fly in the face of your entire argument and are openly accepted in the drug using lifting community as being natural and freaks of nature then you will likely skirt around the question all day long because the answer…
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]dt79 wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
this guy is 6 foot, 200lbs. I think we can agree he’s probably about 8% bodyfat yeah?
So your friend is leaner and heavier than this despite being 4 inches shorter, and natural?
Smells like bullshit to me.
Have fun training with Drop Dead Bodybuilder Fred…[/quote]
I’ll ask you the tits question, since nobody else has attempted to answer it. Ever had your hands on a ridiculously massive pair of tits that didn’t sag and were perky as hell?
[/quote]
I have. Whats the punchline?[/quote]
Were they real, or fake?
[/quote]
Real
[quote]dt79 wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]dt79 wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
this guy is 6 foot, 200lbs. I think we can agree he’s probably about 8% bodyfat yeah?
So your friend is leaner and heavier than this despite being 4 inches shorter, and natural?
Smells like bullshit to me.
Have fun training with Drop Dead Bodybuilder Fred…[/quote]
I’ll ask you the tits question, since nobody else has attempted to answer it. Ever had your hands on a ridiculously massive pair of tits that didn’t sag and were perky as hell?
[/quote]
I have. Whats the punchline?[/quote]
Were they real, or fake?
[/quote]
Real[/quote]
Did you know for a fact they were real? Did you find it hard to believe they were real?
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]dt79 wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]dt79 wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
this guy is 6 foot, 200lbs. I think we can agree he’s probably about 8% bodyfat yeah?
So your friend is leaner and heavier than this despite being 4 inches shorter, and natural?
Smells like bullshit to me.
Have fun training with Drop Dead Bodybuilder Fred…[/quote]
I’ll ask you the tits question, since nobody else has attempted to answer it. Ever had your hands on a ridiculously massive pair of tits that didn’t sag and were perky as hell?
[/quote]
I have. Whats the punchline?[/quote]
Were they real, or fake?
[/quote]
Real[/quote]
Did you know for a fact they were real? Did you find it hard to believe they were real?
[/quote]
I try not to attempt to bend the spoon too often. However, yes, these were real. Its not that hard to tell unless it was some high tech boob job that i don’t know of.
The boob analogy is the definition of a straw man.
MassiveGuns, two questions for you if you don’t mind. A. What two lifters are you talking about questioning their natural status two their face? B. Do you in fact have massive guns? If so do you have a picture and training tips? Thank you.
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
WTF are you babbling about. You sound like you just took a hit off a crack pipe.
[/quote]
Nice response to my peaceful response and after elsewhere you seem like a nice guy. Seems my opinion was wrong. So because you’re a crude person, I’ll be crude here as well: screw your delusional, infantile self and have a nice day in your fantasy land of 5’7", 6% bodyfat, 220+ naturals who walk around in that sort of condition year long and your crass “will it” attitude.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
WTF are you babbling about. You sound like you just took a hit off a crack pipe.
[/quote]
Nice response to my peaceful response and after elsewhere you seem like a nice guy. Seems my opinion was wrong. So because you’re a crude person, I’ll be crude here as well: screw your delusional, infantile self and have a nice day in your fantasy land of 5’7", 6% bodyfat, 220+ naturals who walk around in that sort of condition year long and your crass “will it” attitude. [/quote]
You took that the wrong way. I meant it nicely, there’s no malice in my post I was merely busting your chops.
You were babbling, you didn’t answer the question and you still haven’t. I see a pattern developing…
