X, what’s your plan of attack to get down to 220, lean, with diet and training? What kind of dietary approach will you be taking? Cardio?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I apparently hit “79lbs” so unless it is impossible for me to gain an extra pound, the bottom line is, people can cross that mark so it is one thing to say most people can’t…and quite another to do like he has and state that it is impossible for a natural bodybuilder to do this.
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I never gave a specific number. I gave a range: 40 to 50 pounds or so.
You likely gained 30 to 40 pounds of training induced muscle rather than 79.
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
Question:
What questions can I ask you guys that will lead you toward agreeing with what I say in a roundabout way?[/quote]
??? what came first, the chicken or the egg? That is what a newb should be eating.
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]cueball wrote:
“Doubtfully” under 25%, right? LOL[/quote]
Like I said, I posted a picture with my shirt off at that weight and no one believed I was obese in it. You can take it as you want, but it also falls in line with y current body fat testing…so again, you are arguing because I guessed my body fat when I hadn’t had it tested?
Really?
I can’t guess my own body fat percentage?[/quote]
Wasn’t that the one that was taken in the dark? From what I remember there are clearer pictures of Bigfoot. Post it again.[/quote]
I don’t have any of my pics taken before a few months back since my camera was stolen, but yes, that is the picture and yes, I was 285lbs in that pic.
It wasn’t taken in the dark. It was taken facing an open window with all the lights on in my house. Facing the window made it darker when the goal was for it to show more detail.[/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
It wasn’t taken in the dark. It was taken facing an open window with all the lights on in my house. Facing the window made it darker when the goal was for it to hide the fat.[/quote]
Fixed that for you.[/quote]
This picture was posted in the T-Cell Alpha thread Tirib started for X some time ago.
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding_indigo_2/professor_x_mutant_log
If you want to look through a bunch of pics see above. BUT… i’ll just leave this here. Not sure if this is the “doubtful” over 25%, cause it looks like doubtful under 30%.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
X, what’s your plan of attack to get down to 220, lean, with diet and training? What kind of dietary approach will you be taking? Cardio?[/quote]
I feel like this is an honest legitimate question. But it will be taken as an attack or not addressed, or both.
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
X, what’s your plan of attack to get down to 220, lean, with diet and training? What kind of dietary approach will you be taking? Cardio?[/quote]
I feel like this is an honest legitimate question. But it will be taken as an attack or not addressed, or both. [/quote]
I’ve asked so many reasonable questions. I can only remember one inflammatory post towards him, which was in response to his outright rudeness to me in one post.
He even took it as an attack when I asked him what his plan is to gain more mass at this stage of development, age, and years of training. He actually used that post in which I asked that in the OP of this thread.
Even when I use the word obese I have no emotion behind it; it’s simply stating a condition, just like when I estimate something, there is no silly emotion behind it insinuating jealousy of others or wanting to hold others down.
X: I’m surprised you aren’t all over other websites on which the same estimations have been discussed.
You aren’t fond with what I say in regards to natural potential. So you most likely have problems with those with FAR MORE involvement in bodybuilding than you and I have, people like:
Dr. Layne Norton
Bryan Haycock
Fred Dimenna
Lyle McDonald
Martin Berkhan
Alan Aragon
Casey Butt
Dan Duchaine
These people are pretty bright, some with advanced degrees, and have come to the same estimations. Do you think they are full of it?
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding_indigo_2/professor_x_mutant_log
If you want to look through a bunch of pics see above. BUT… i’ll just leave this here. Not sure if this is the “doubtful” over 25%, cause it looks like doubtful under 30%.[/quote]
This is my dream body
How do I get like this, I’m 5’7 155lbs and am the strongest guy in my weightroom
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]steven alex wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]setto222 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I still want to know why I can’t guess my own body fat percentage all of a sudden. [/quote]
Well, the results could be bias.
I dunno. I think judging BF based on pics is kind of a foolhardy endeavour. [/quote]
Regardless, people do it all of the time here. I am wondering how it is that none of you cried at Brick’s claim that I was over 25% in a picture but here seem to be declaring that me judging my own is something that can’t be done?
WTF?
You all aren’t doing too well at this. At least be consistent,[/quote]
PX seriously why do you care so much what other people think of you? Of all the people who I have read online in various forums on all subject matters NO-ONE goes to such lengths as you to try to justify every statement you have ever made. Relax man. You do not know or will likely meet people here so dont care so much. [/quote]
? Why are you and friends coming into every thread I start just to do this?[/quote]
I seriously think you love all this. I think somehow you get off on all the attention. You never debate anything so that isnt the reason you post. I have a hard time believing you are a professional and I wonder what your clients would think of you if they read what you are like online. Its a bit weird really.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding_indigo_2/professor_x_mutant_log
If you want to look through a bunch of pics see above. BUT… i’ll just leave this here. Not sure if this is the “doubtful” over 25%, cause it looks like doubtful under 30%.[/quote]
That isn’t the pic of me at 285lbs. That was AFTER the motorcycle accident when I also lost muscle. I also ate right before that picture and stated as such when it was first posted.
Eating a meal before a picture doesn’t affect fatness or leanness, at least not visually.
[quote]bpick86 wrote:
I do understand that. I didn’t grow in height at all after 15 but I outgrew almost every suit jacket I owned, because I got wider. I do understand all that contributes to the increase in weight which contributes to the increase in LBM but what I am saying is without those cheap gains in skeletal density, bone breadth, tendon and ligament changes, 80lbs LBM is extremely exceptional.[/quote]
At 15, your body is still filling out quite a bit…and I am a little skeptical of someone saying they didn’t grow at all since 15 years of age. Most guys do grow after that age to some degree.
I wasn’t 15. I was in college. Yes, your skeletal density increases as your muscle mass increases.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding_indigo_2/professor_x_mutant_log
If you want to look through a bunch of pics see above. BUT… i’ll just leave this here. Not sure if this is the “doubtful” over 25%, cause it looks like doubtful under 30%.[/quote]
That isn’t the pic of me at 285lbs. That was AFTER the motorcycle accident when I also lost muscle. I also ate right before that picture and stated as such when it was first posted.
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loll remember when you took weight gainer and it prevented you from losing muscle???
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
X, what’s your plan of attack to get down to 220, lean, with diet and training? What kind of dietary approach will you be taking? Cardio?[/quote]
I feel like this is an honest legitimate question. But it will be taken as an attack or not addressed, or both. [/quote]
Why is that an attack? I am doing more cardio and training like I have written in several threads. I don’t have to do much to my diet to lose body fat. What exactly was expected? I won’t be listing any specific ratios of macronutrients because I don’t do things that way.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Mtag666 wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
X, what’s your plan of attack to get down to 220, lean, with diet and training? What kind of dietary approach will you be taking? Cardio?[/quote]
I feel like this is an honest legitimate question. But it will be taken as an attack or not addressed, or both. [/quote]
Why is that an attack? I am doing more cardio and training like I have written in several threads. I don’t have to do much to my diet to lose body fat. What exactly was expected? I won’t be listing any specific ratios of macronutrients because I don’t do things that way.[/quote]
How do you do them? That was the question.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
X: I’m surprised you aren’t all over other websites on which the same estimations have been discussed.
You aren’t fond with what I say in regards to natural potential. So you most likely have problems with those with FAR MORE involvement in bodybuilding than you and I have, people like:
Dr. Layne Norton
Bryan Haycock
Fred Dimenna
Lyle McDonald
Martin Berkhan
Alan Aragon
Casey Butt
Dan Duchaine
These people are pretty bright, some with advanced degrees, and have come to the same estimations. Do you think they are full of it?
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More name dropping?
I asked you specifically where you are getting these numbers from.
I also asked you how many of those natural bodybuilders you looked at started training AFTER they stopped growing in height.
You haven’t answered these questions.
If you don’t count ratios, do you at least count nutrients per pound of bodyweight? How do you make adjustments if you do not count anything? At your bodyfat level, you can likely get away with “eating less”. However, that doesn’t continue unduly if you don’t start counting at some point to make proper adjustments.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I apparently hit “79lbs” so unless it is impossible for me to gain an extra pound, the bottom line is, people can cross that mark so it is one thing to say most people can’t…and quite another to do like he has and state that it is impossible for a natural bodybuilder to do this.
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I never gave a specific number. I gave a range: 40 to 50 pounds or so.
You likely gained 30 to 40 pounds of training induced muscle rather than 79. [/quote]
Yeah, the problem with that is you are making up numbers. There is no way at all for you to be able to tell exactly how much lean body mass someone has is actual dry muscle tissue. Your muscles are mostly water to start with and a contest depleted states are transitory.
We can calculate lean body mass, not the exact amount of dry muscle tissue without someone dying first.
That is why your “30-40lbs” has no way of being substantiated so it makes little sense to even mention it.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
More name dropping? [/quote]
Yes.
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I asked you specifically where you are getting these numbers from. [/quote]
- Fifteen years of observing and socializing with bodybuilders.
- Attendance at bodybuilding shows.
- Reading the work of those HIGHLY involved in bodybuilding and scientists who’ve studied body composition of top bodybuilders for the past half century.
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I also asked you how many of those natural bodybuilders you looked at started training AFTER they stopped growing in height. [/quote]
I don’t know. Like I said, it is estimation based off of average weight of non-obese men compared to training accomplishment and the kind of muscular gain expected to occur in a time frame, say 1/4 to 1/2 pound of muscle per week, while taking into account that gains diminish over time.
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You haven’t answered these questions.[/quote]
I’ve answered them with the same answers as above in so many ways but they’re routinely ignored.