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Obviously all the big muscular lean brothers decided making anything of their ability was stupid and let the more lanky skinny guys go pro in their place; they prefer that blacktop court to a college degree and millions of dollars.[/quote]
Yeah along with discovering an ability well above the norm comes an altruistic streak which manifests as graciously passing up your chance to make it big and letting the less genetically gifted make their dreams come true instead.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
And let’s not forget that many genetically gifted people CAN’T make it in the entertainment, modeling, fashion, and sports industries because:
So what are you saying?
[/quote]
Because of your incoherency and poor communication skills, I don’t know how else to communicate with you. So I give up. Happy?[/quote]
Poor communication? You stated facts as if they self evidently prove something without explaining a conclusion.
Kinda like just publishing a scientific paper by sending in a load of results and a letter saying “Speaks for itself”
[/quote]
Conclusion: No naturals with 80 to 100 pounds of training induced muscle!
Conclusion: No natural, 225+#, 6% bodyfat holding, 5’7" man.
Conclusion: NO ONE with an advanced or elite-level bodybuilder’s (keyword: ADVANCED and ELITE) physique just from genetics and doing soe manual labor.
[/quote]
So whats the limit then? Where is the point where you draw the line? Put a number to it.
As in, maximum bodyfat, weight and LBM for a sub 5 10 natural lifter.
The tension mounts…
Duck the post or answer? Choices choices…
[/quote]
You don’t give a rat’s ass about anything I have to say, and although I thought you were an OK guy who I simply disagreed with, I know longer think that. Again, if you think I’m wrong on evertyhing and get off on trying to insulting me, go on with yourself. Very respectful thing to do to denigrate my degree and profession.
Thanks![/quote]
You ducked the question again! No surprise there. And I like the smoke and mirrors distraction tactic designed to draw attention away from the fact you ducked it AGAIN!
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]bpick86 wrote:
I will have to agree with X on this one. I have known a couple guys that worked on offshore oil rigs that didn’t train but were very impressive built. However even though they didn’t train when your job consist of heavy farmers walks, deadlifts, and other heavy manual labor for 84 hours a week 2 weeks outta the month then you can say that they may be working out harder than a lot of desk jockey gym rats.[/quote]
I know many who just play basketball. That is why I laughed at the “number limits” that were made before.
i am only guessing these guys don’t get out much. they aren’t my size, but I know many who put a lot of guy here to shame when they don’t even lift regularly.
[/quote]
pics of really built guys who got that size just from basketball? [/quote]
Yeah, or just existing. Guys with elite level bodybuilder size with no bodybuilding. Awesome!
Does anyone here WATCH pro basketball?!
[/quote]
You are assuming that the guys with the best genetics would CHOOSE the NBA!
Not everyone with the best genetics chooses that path.
Some want to just play at Rucker Park and be street legends while in poverty.
Some here seem to not understand this.
[/quote]
Lol
Although I thought jacked guys weren’t exactly popular in the nba and the tall lanky guys tend to do a bit better?
If bodybuilding had way more money up for grabs we’d see some real monsters I bet.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Well I step out for two days to put sprinklers in my yard and the usual continues…Professor X Jr. (MassiveLulz) continues to throw up smoke screens to escape his retarded statement…without success.
Ahhhhhhh smells good in here.[/quote]
What are you talking about?
Lets see if you put up a smoke screen or not…
What’s the best stats possible for lbm, weight and bodyfat for a natural lifter under 5 10?
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
And this asshole continues running his sewer and has not a single picture of himself, or his mythical outlier friend?
[/quote]
C’mon Sky, you know how guys jacked out of their minds, who make everyone else look bad without even trying never want their photos taken. One thing I’ve learned from over a decade on this site, is that the people with the self proclaimed best physiques or lifts never seem to have cameras on hand… ever.
MG- all you need to do is provide a pic of your buddy to shut people up arguing whether he’s full of it, or perhaps you just made a minor miscalculation because most people aren’t capable of approximately bf levels by eye (no shame in that). Also, with all your statements lately, it’d also give you a modicum of credibility if you were indeed possessing a respectable physique.
S[/quote]
Look, ufo’s exist!
[/quote]
Hey man, I tried. If you wanna throw out claims and then get a little defensive when people ask for some sort of proof, that’s fine. No skin off my ass.
IMO, X did have some degree of credibility many years ago when there really weren’t many developed or accomplished folks on here, and all it took was a few photos of a relatively large man to impress people (and for the record, no one has ever said that he wasn’t a big dude). His own actions seem to have eaten away at whatever status he once held on this site (and this site only, which I’ve always found a bit odd, because I see a lot of the same people from here on other sites where some very knowledgeable folks would have a field day with some of the BS that gets talked here).
People make their own reputations and degrees of credibility, nothing I can do, or care to do about it.
S[/quote]
Like prof x and his pictures? The guy is massive, extremely well developed and blantantly not obese yet he’s caught more shit than I’ve ever seen after putting himself out there. People will shit on anything regardless of whether its real or not. And you say prof x is what brings these forums down?
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
And this asshole continues running his sewer and has not a single picture of himself, or his mythical outlier friend?
[/quote]
C’mon Sky, you know how guys jacked out of their minds, who make everyone else look bad without even trying never want their photos taken. One thing I’ve learned from over a decade on this site, is that the people with the self proclaimed best physiques or lifts never seem to have cameras on hand… ever.
MG- all you need to do is provide a pic of your buddy to shut people up arguing whether he’s full of it, or perhaps you just made a minor miscalculation because most people aren’t capable of approximately bf levels by eye (no shame in that). Also, with all your statements lately, it’d also give you a modicum of credibility if you were indeed possessing a respectable physique.
S[/quote]
Look, ufo’s exist!
[/quote]
Hey man, I tried. If you wanna throw out claims and then get a little defensive when people ask for some sort of proof, that’s fine. No skin off my ass.
IMO, X did have some degree of credibility many years ago when there really weren’t many developed or accomplished folks on here, and all it took was a few photos of a relatively large man to impress people (and for the record, no one has ever said that he wasn’t a big dude). His own actions seem to have eaten away at whatever status he once held on this site (and this site only, which I’ve always found a bit odd, because I see a lot of the same people from here on other sites where some very knowledgeable folks would have a field day with some of the BS that gets talked here).
People make their own reputations and degrees of credibility, nothing I can do, or care to do about it.
S[/quote]
Like prof x and his pictures? The guy is massive, extremely well developed and blantantly not obese yet he’s caught more shit than I’ve ever seen after putting himself out there. People will shit on anything regardless of whether its real or not. And you say prof x is what brings these forums down?
[/quote]
FFS!! this isnt a witch hunt MassiveGuns!! But your posts got me thinking are you now or have you ever been PX?
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
Like prof x and his pictures? The guy is massive, extremely well developed and blantantly not obese yet he’s caught more shit than I’ve ever seen after putting himself out there. People will shit on anything regardless of whether its real or not. And you say prof x is what brings these forums down?
[/quote]
I am not trying to take anything away from Professor X but I must ask, Hoe do you know he is extremely well developed?
As far as I can remember, he has only posted one photo that would be considered a “mandatory” pose.
I know this isn’t bodybuilding section but a compliment of those poses best displays development.
I have never seen a front or rear double biceps, lat spread, side triceps, etc.
Is he really big? Yes.
Is he extremely well developed? I have no idea because he has never posted photos that support that claim.
So does your 5’7 225 pound natural friend look like that 6% bodyfat photo? Only much more muscular?
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
If bodybuilding had way more money up for grabs we’d see some real monsters I bet.[/quote]
I know right. We haven’t seen some genetically blessed monsters despite the relatively low pay.
[quote]krummdiddy wrote:
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
I want those Dwight Howard shoulders
lots of volume for side delts helped make a pretty big difference a few months ago, I’m going to go back to that again[/quote]
I want David Robinson arms!![/quote]
hahaha, I’ll raise you Alonzo Mourning or Ben Wallace
those guys were honestly pretty jacked, you won’t see anything near Lee Priest arms on them when they’re approaching 7 feet tall though
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
And this asshole continues running his sewer and has not a single picture of himself, or his mythical outlier friend?
[/quote]
C’mon Sky, you know how guys jacked out of their minds, who make everyone else look bad without even trying never want their photos taken. One thing I’ve learned from over a decade on this site, is that the people with the self proclaimed best physiques or lifts never seem to have cameras on hand… ever.
MG- all you need to do is provide a pic of your buddy to shut people up arguing whether he’s full of it, or perhaps you just made a minor miscalculation because most people aren’t capable of approximately bf levels by eye (no shame in that). Also, with all your statements lately, it’d also give you a modicum of credibility if you were indeed possessing a respectable physique.
S[/quote]
Look, ufo’s exist!
[/quote]
Hey man, I tried. If you wanna throw out claims and then get a little defensive when people ask for some sort of proof, that’s fine. No skin off my ass.
IMO, X did have some degree of credibility many years ago when there really weren’t many developed or accomplished folks on here, and all it took was a few photos of a relatively large man to impress people (and for the record, no one has ever said that he wasn’t a big dude). His own actions seem to have eaten away at whatever status he once held on this site (and this site only, which I’ve always found a bit odd, because I see a lot of the same people from here on other sites where some very knowledgeable folks would have a field day with some of the BS that gets talked here).
People make their own reputations and degrees of credibility, nothing I can do, or care to do about it.
S[/quote]
Like prof x and his pictures? The guy is massive, extremely well developed and blantantly not obese yet he’s caught more shit than I’ve ever seen after putting himself out there. People will shit on anything regardless of whether its real or not. And you say prof x is what brings these forums down?
[/quote]
X is just fat you cannot tell development if you can’t see where any of the muscle are. No separation at all even in the arms for Christ sake. I have plenty of friends that look big but are carrying way to much fat. You can tell there is msucle there but to say well developed l o fucking l. When you carry that much extra fat who fucking knows how much muscle is actually there
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
Like prof x and his pictures? The guy is massive, extremely well developed and blantantly not obese yet he’s caught more shit than I’ve ever seen after putting himself out there. People will shit on anything regardless of whether its real or not. And you say prof x is what brings these forums down?
[/quote]
I am not trying to take anything away from Professor X but I must ask, Hoe do you know he is extremely well developed?
As far as I can remember, he has only posted one photo that would be considered a “mandatory” pose.
I know this isn’t bodybuilding section but a compliment of those poses best displays development.
I have never seen a front or rear double biceps, lat spread, side triceps, etc.
Is he really big? Yes.
Is he extremely well developed? I have no idea because he has never posted photos that support that claim.
So does your 5’7 225 pound natural friend look like that 6% bodyfat photo? Only much more muscular?[/quote]
Well everyone here has claimed that simply height, weight and lean bodymass are all thats needed to ascertain the level of development of my friend. See what I’m getting at?
There videos of the prof training with thib on youtube. You can’t watch those vids and honestly say he’s fat? Or lacking in muscular development. He’s not built like a pro bodybuilder but has he claimed to be? I haven’t read every single one of his posts but I don’t think he has.
Oh yeah and my friend looks like that photo all the time. I was aware of this before that that level of leaness is around 6-8%. My friend uses calipers to know which side of that range he is.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
If bodybuilding had way more money up for grabs we’d see some real monsters I bet.[/quote]
I know right. We haven’t seen some genetically blessed monsters despite the relatively low pay. [/quote]
I mean even bigger.
Quack Quack!!
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
[quote]MassiveGuns wrote:
Like prof x and his pictures? The guy is massive, extremely well developed and blantantly not obese yet he’s caught more shit than I’ve ever seen after putting himself out there. People will shit on anything regardless of whether its real or not. And you say prof x is what brings these forums down?
[/quote]
I am not trying to take anything away from Professor X but I must ask, Hoe do you know he is extremely well developed?
As far as I can remember, he has only posted one photo that would be considered a “mandatory” pose.
I know this isn’t bodybuilding section but a compliment of those poses best displays development.
I have never seen a front or rear double biceps, lat spread, side triceps, etc.
Is he really big? Yes.
Is he extremely well developed? I have no idea because he has never posted photos that support that claim.
So does your 5’7 225 pound natural friend look like that 6% bodyfat photo? Only much more muscular?[/quote]
You serious with this? I doubt many other people here have posted as many pioctuyres as I have over the years.
How does he know I am extremely developed?
Really?
People think like this?
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]bpick86 wrote:
I will have to agree with X on this one. I have known a couple guys that worked on offshore oil rigs that didn’t train but were very impressive built. However even though they didn’t train when your job consist of heavy farmers walks, deadlifts, and other heavy manual labor for 84 hours a week 2 weeks outta the month then you can say that they may be working out harder than a lot of desk jockey gym rats.[/quote]
I know many who just play basketball. That is why I laughed at the “number limits” that were made before.
i am only guessing these guys don’t get out much. they aren’t my size, but I know many who put a lot of guy here to shame when they don’t even lift regularly.
[/quote]
pics of really built guys who got that size just from basketball? [/quote]
Yeah, or just existing. Guys with elite level bodybuilder size with no bodybuilding. Awesome!
Does anyone here WATCH pro basketball?!
[/quote]
You can’t really get more dishonest than this in posting.
Nowhere did I write “elite level bodybuilder size”. Shit, there are maybe 10 people like that on this whole forum. I said they are developed more than many here who have been training for years.
Are you really stating that no one exists who looks like they lift weights because of their genetic ability with relatively minor weight trraining if at all?
You seem to have a huge problem responded directly to what is written. You seem to prefer making things up as you go.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]bpick86 wrote:
I will have to agree with X on this one. I have known a couple guys that worked on offshore oil rigs that didn’t train but were very impressive built. However even though they didn’t train when your job consist of heavy farmers walks, deadlifts, and other heavy manual labor for 84 hours a week 2 weeks outta the month then you can say that they may be working out harder than a lot of desk jockey gym rats.[/quote]
I know many who just play basketball. That is why I laughed at the “number limits” that were made before.
i am only guessing these guys don’t get out much. they aren’t my size, but I know many who put a lot of guy here to shame when they don’t even lift regularly.
[/quote]
pics of really built guys who got that size just from basketball? [/quote]
Yeah, or just existing. Guys with elite level bodybuilder size with no bodybuilding. Awesome!
Does anyone here WATCH pro basketball?!
[/quote]
You can’t really get more dishonest than this in posting.
Nowhere did I write “elite level bodybuilder size”. Shit, there are maybe 10 people like that on this whole forum. I said they are developed more than many here who have been training for years.
Are you really stating that no one exists who looks like they lift weights because of their genetic ability with relatively minor weight trraining if at all?
You seem to have a huge problem responded directly to what is written. You seem to prefer making things up as you go.[/quote]
I thought you were ignoring people…kinda like not posting much anymore?
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
X is just fat you cannot tell development if you can’t see where any of the muscle are. No separation at all even in the arms for Christ sake. I have plenty of friends that look big but are carrying way to much fat. You can tell there is msucle there but to say well developed l o fucking l. When you carry that much extra fat who fucking knows how much muscle is actually there
[/quote]
This post is ridiculous. Why be this dishonest when you post here?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
X is just fat you cannot tell development if you can’t see where any of the muscle are. No separation at all even in the arms for Christ sake. I have plenty of friends that look big but are carrying way to much fat. You can tell there is msucle there but to say well developed l o fucking l. When you carry that much extra fat who fucking knows how much muscle is actually there
[/quote]
This post is ridiculous. Why be this dishonest when you post here?[/quote]
I’m with you… dumb post… What I can’t understand is, from what I have read PX is just saying that everybody doesn’t have the same limits… There are people that get to a decent size without a lot of lifting and some that can never be decent with all the lifting in the world… its genetics… Players that are big in the NBA without much lifting?
Lebron James admitted that he did not lift much at all in high school and he still came into the NBA at 250 lbs and solid as a rock, BB size? of course not but imagine how big he would be if he trained like a BB… dude would be massive, and much more developed than what most of yall are saying can be done naturally…
[quote]krummdiddy wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
X is just fat you cannot tell development if you can’t see where any of the muscle are. No separation at all even in the arms for Christ sake. I have plenty of friends that look big but are carrying way to much fat. You can tell there is msucle there but to say well developed l o fucking l. When you carry that much extra fat who fucking knows how much muscle is actually there
[/quote]
This post is ridiculous. Why be this dishonest when you post here?[/quote]
I’m with you… dumb post… What I can’t understand is, from what I have read PX is just saying that everybody doesn’t have the same limits… There are people that get to a decent size without a lot of lifting and some that can never be decent with all the lifting in the world… its genetics… Players that are big in the NBA without much lifting? Lebron James admitted that he did not lift much at all in high school and he still came into the NBA at 250 lbs and solid as a rock, BB size? of course not but imagine how big he would be if he trained like a BB… dude would be massive, and much more developed than what most of yall are saying can be done naturally…[/quote]
That is all I have said from the start.
The message gets lost in the midst of witch hunts and people flat out lying.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
X is just fat you cannot tell development if you can’t see where any of the muscle are. No separation at all even in the arms for Christ sake. I have plenty of friends that look big but are carrying way to much fat. You can tell there is msucle there but to say well developed l o fucking l. When you carry that much extra fat who fucking knows how much muscle is actually there
[/quote]
This post is ridiculous. Why be this dishonest when you post here?[/quote]
Looking good, Prof. AWESOME progress since your FAT pics.
And I bet none of your haters will admit that.
It all comes down to denigrating you because that’s exactly what makes their panties wet around these parts. Not talking about bodybuilding like real, testosterone pumped men do.
Maybe you should get yourself a HD phone so the pics could be a little bit clearer.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
X is just fat you cannot tell development if you can’t see where any of the muscle are. No separation at all even in the arms for Christ sake. I have plenty of friends that look big but are carrying way to much fat. You can tell there is msucle there but to say well developed l o fucking l. When you carry that much extra fat who fucking knows how much muscle is actually there
[/quote]
This post is ridiculous. Why be this dishonest when you post here?[/quote]
Because you are the professor and you are not honest.
Getting lean is easy and quick according to you and in over 10 years you never did that.
You are about 8 - 10 yo the way you type and just pityfull.
I hope elsewhere you have a nice life.
