Lifting for Christ

[quote]RoadWarrior wrote:
As an Angel is a spirit, the number would be endless.
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You’re right, should have been more specific. There was a finite number decided upon in the early Church.

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A more intriguing question would be, “why do non-Christian” people feel the constant need to attack every Christian statement? Non-Christians always seem to find a need/reason to attack anything Christian at every possible chance, in what appears a desire to fill their empty life…[/quote]

Not all of them. I don’t think anyone’s attacking something like loving one’s neighbor or working towards world peace. This thread’s topic was pretty silly though.

I think an even better question is why people repeated my deadlift joke from the first page of the thread.

[quote]buffalokilla wrote:
I think an even better question is why people repeated my deadlift joke from the first page of the thread. [/quote]

Ehhh… Lost interest about 5 posts in and just decided to post it. Having gone back and read the whole thing, it was actually the 3rd of 4th time someone had told the joke after I posted it. Interestingly enough, it was the first one responded to.

What was that number of angels?

[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:
I find that a lot of this “I do X for Jesus” is really our way of convincing ourselves that we accomplish more for God that we really do.

I think this is the key sentence right here. Perhaps I’m just too cynical and jaded, but I think that many, certainly not all, but many, people who call themselves “Christians” and do everything for Jesus are people with a, shall we say, less than Christian past, who have suddenly found the Lord and want to wear in on their sleeve to cover up their checkered past. Hey, I’m glad these people have repented and all, but they need to quit pretending that they’re holier than everyone else.[/quote]

Well, to be fair, the only real reason to turn to Christ is to cover up a checkered past. I believe in the goodness and provision of God, in an abundant life, but contrary to what many modern preachers will tell you, this isn’t the core of the Gospel message. If you listen to many people today, God is like some Great Cosmic Coach who wants you to be all that you can be.

In truth, He wants us to be what we could never be: righteous. The true message of the Gospel is that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Even though we have noting to offer Him, He chose us, simply because.

When you really get that, it does a couple of things. First, it changes your priorities around. Instead of living for yourself, you start to live for God, or at least you should. The focus now isn’t so much on the big house and the nice car, its about doing what He created you to do. For some people, that’s preaching, for some, it’s being an awesome teacher or a great parent or what have you. Some of us, though, try to take our own desires, dress them up in religious language, and call that our divine purpose.

Maybe God really does want me to be the best weight lifter I know, but I don’t think that that is my primary purpose. Right now I’m a software engineer, but that isn’t my primary purpose, either.

The second thing is it makes you a bit more humble. When you really start to touch the heart of God, you actually become less likely to be “holier than thou,” because you see yourself reflected in Christ. People ask me sometimes why I fall to my knees when we worship. Many assume it’s because I feel the presence of God. While that’s true, the real reason I can’t stand is because when I look at Him, I see how far I still have to go.

i think that if christ can be focused enough to be doing leg raises as he was nailed to the cross, and that’s why the roman’s tacked his feet down as well, we should be able to devote some of our own lifting to his purpose.

leg raises should be a staple in every program.

by the way, GREAT thread…

God Hates Us All.

…your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.-1 Corinthians 6:19-20

[quote]thomas.galvin wrote:
MikeTheBear wrote:
I find that a lot of this “I do X for Jesus” is really our way of convincing ourselves that we accomplish more for God that we really do.

I think this is the key sentence right here. Perhaps I’m just too cynical and jaded, but I think that many, certainly not all, but many, people who call themselves “Christians” and do everything for Jesus are people with a, shall we say, less than Christian past, who have suddenly found the Lord and want to wear in on their sleeve to cover up their checkered past. Hey, I’m glad these people have repented and all, but they need to quit pretending that they’re holier than everyone else.

Well, to be fair, the only real reason to turn to Christ is to cover up a checkered past. I believe in the goodness and provision of God, in an abundant life, but contrary to what many modern preachers will tell you, this isn’t the core of the Gospel message. If you listen to many people today, God is like some Great Cosmic Coach who wants you to be all that you can be.

In truth, He wants us to be what we could never be: righteous. The true message of the Gospel is that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Even though we have noting to offer Him, He chose us, simply because.

When you really get that, it does a couple of things. First, it changes your priorities around. Instead of living for yourself, you start to live for God, or at least you should. The focus now isn’t so much on the big house and the nice car, its about doing what He created you to do. For some people, that’s preaching, for some, it’s being an awesome teacher or a great parent or what have you. Some of us, though, try to take our own desires, dress them up in religious language, and call that our divine purpose.

Maybe God really does want me to be the best weight lifter I know, but I don’t think that that is my primary purpose. Right now I’m a software engineer, but that isn’t my primary purpose, either.

The second thing is it makes you a bit more humble. When you really start to touch the heart of God, you actually become less likely to be “holier than thou,” because you see yourself reflected in Christ. People ask me sometimes why I fall to my knees when we worship. Many assume it’s because I feel the presence of God. While that’s true, the real reason I can’t stand is because when I look at Him, I see how far I still have to go.
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what a great answer probably the best here

one word: “Samson”

[quote]get it done wrote:
i think that if christ can be focused enough to be doing leg raises as he was nailed to the cross, and that’s why the roman’s tacked his feet down as well, we should be able to devote some of our own lifting to his purpose.

leg raises should be a staple in every program.

by the way, GREAT thread…[/quote]

I think you have it wrong. He was doing pull ups and his feet were nailed down for the extra resistance.

Jesus was the man but he obviously needed to bulk up a bit.

Buddha needed to cut.