I didn’t realize this combat forum was here.
I’m 58 years old and workout three times a week. Upper body twice then lower then the following week I switch to lower twice and upper once. They just opened a boxing gym in my town and I took one of there training classes. I must say I really enjoyed it. I have always kept myself in pretty good shape and this was very challenging. My question is this I’m thinking of lifting in the morning and boxing at night. Tuesday and Thursday lfting and boxing and Saturday just lifting. I spoke to a friend of mine who is a trainer and he said to make sure my diet is vood and I get plenty of rest. I’m going to try it for a month and see what happens.
I not much of a morning workout person so we will have to see. So I gues what I’m wondering if anyone on this forum has an opinion on this one way or the other would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Dant52
Hi Dant, welcome to the forum. We have a couple of Amatuer and Professional boxers, Thai boxers, MMA fighters, Submission Grappling competitors, a former D1 wrestler and international competitor, Martial Arts instructors and many other combat sports enthusiasts and practitioners of Martial Arts/Combat Sports. In other words I think you’ll find that this forum is full of helpful people who generally have experience with the subject matter.
In regards to your question, the first question that I’d ask you would be:
What are your primary goals? Do you primarily want to get bigger and stronger and just do boxing for fun/cardio? Do you want to really focus on getting better at boxing (but have no interest in actually fighting)? Do you want to compete in boxing (even if it’s just small local shows against other “Masters” level amatuer competition)?
[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
Hi Dant, welcome to the forum. We have a couple of Amatuer and Professional boxers, Thai boxers, MMA fighters, Submission Grappling competitors, a former D1 wrestler and international competitor, Martial Arts instructors and many other combat sports enthusiasts and practitioners of Martial Arts/Combat Sports. In other words I think you’ll find that this forum is full of helpful people who generally have experience with the subject matter.
In regards to your question, the first question that I’d ask you would be:
What are your primary goals? Do you primarily want to get bigger and stronger and just do boxing for fun/cardio? Do you want to really focus on getting better at boxing (but have no interest in actually fighting)? Do you want to compete in boxing (even if it’s just small local shows against other “Masters” level amatuer competition)?
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I like the idea of challenging myself and hell boxing is a very good one. Who doesn’t to get bigger and stronger. I want to box for the workout and to be a better boxer for myself. That’s pretty much it.
[quote]dant52 wrote:
I didn’t realize this combat forum was here.
I’m 58 years old and workout three times a week. Upper body twice then lower then the following week I switch to lower twice and upper once. They just opened a boxing gym in my town and I took one of there training classes. I must say I really enjoyed it. I have always kept myself in pretty good shape and this was very challenging. My question is this I’m thinking of lifting in the morning and boxing at night. Tuesday and Thursday lfting and boxing and Saturday just lifting. I spoke to a friend of mine who is a trainer and he said to make sure my diet is vood and I get plenty of rest. I’m going to try it for a month and see what happens.
I not much of a morning workout person so we will have to see. So I gues what I’m wondering if anyone on this forum has an opinion on this one way or the other would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Dant52[/quote]
If you’re just doing boxing for fun and to challenge yourself with something new, then there’s nothing wrong with your proposed schedule at all. I would just say watch your joints if you are doing a lot of heavy bag hitting, as it can lead to some inflammation, but other than that you should be good to go if you are eating enough and resting enough. There are lots of people that can work the schedule you proposed and you won’t break yourself if you’re rational and listen to your body, even at your age.
[quote]dant52 wrote:
I didn’t realize this combat forum was here.
I’m 58 years old and workout three times a week. Upper body twice then lower then the following week I switch to lower twice and upper once. They just opened a boxing gym in my town and I took one of there training classes. I must say I really enjoyed it. I have always kept myself in pretty good shape and this was very challenging. My question is this I’m thinking of lifting in the morning and boxing at night. Tuesday and Thursday lfting and boxing and Saturday just lifting. I spoke to a friend of mine who is a trainer and he said to make sure my diet is vood and I get plenty of rest. I’m going to try it for a month and see what happens.
I not much of a morning workout person so we will have to see. So I gues what I’m wondering if anyone on this forum has an opinion on this one way or the other would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Dant52[/quote]
If you’re just doing boxing for fun and to challenge yourself with something new, then there’s nothing wrong with your proposed schedule at all. I would just say watch your joints if you are doing a lot of heavy bag hitting, as it can lead to some inflammation, but other than that you should be good to go if you are eating enough and resting enough. There are lots of people that can work the schedule you proposed and you won’t break yourself if you’re rational and listen to your body, even at your age.
[quote]dant52 wrote:
I didn’t realize this combat forum was here.
I’m 58 years old and workout three times a week. Upper body twice then lower then the following week I switch to lower twice and upper once. They just opened a boxing gym in my town and I took one of there training classes. I must say I really enjoyed it. I have always kept myself in pretty good shape and this was very challenging. My question is this I’m thinking of lifting in the morning and boxing at night. Tuesday and Thursday lfting and boxing and Saturday just lifting. I spoke to a friend of mine who is a trainer and he said to make sure my diet is vood and I get plenty of rest. I’m going to try it for a month and see what happens.
I not much of a morning workout person so we will have to see. So I gues what I’m wondering if anyone on this forum has an opinion on this one way or the other would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Dant52[/quote]
If you’re just doing boxing for fun and to challenge yourself with something new, then there’s nothing wrong with your proposed schedule at all. I would just say watch your joints if you are doing a lot of heavy bag hitting, as it can lead to some inflammation, but other than that you should be good to go if you are eating enough and resting enough. There are lots of people that can work the schedule you proposed and you won’t break yourself if you’re rational and listen to your body, even at your age.
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Ah yes the joints. Lets see I have a partial knee replacement. The other one is about ready. Elbows doc told me after looking at xrays the it looked like a lays potato chips factory in there. But I’m a firm believer in “if you rest you rust”. That and a couple of celebrex works wonders.
If you’re old and beat up, work into it slowly, especially if you have elbow issues.
It’s not as bad as weightlifting, but you do have to be careful - the stress it can put on the hands, wrists, elbows, and shoulders is absolutely tangible.
I say go for it. I always have trouble lifting and boxing on the same day but if you can do it, do it.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
If you’re old and beat up, work into it slowly, especially if you have elbow issues.
It’s not as bad as weightlifting, but you do have to be careful - the stress it can put on the hands, wrists, elbows, and shoulders is absolutely tangible.
I say go for it. I always have trouble lifting and boxing on the same day but if you can do it, do it.[/quote]
I’m not near his age but funny enough fighting never messed with my elbows, while triceps and shoulder work would generally murder it depending on the exercise.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
If you’re old and beat up, work into it slowly, especially if you have elbow issues.
It’s not as bad as weightlifting, but you do have to be careful - the stress it can put on the hands, wrists, elbows, and shoulders is absolutely tangible.
I say go for it. I always have trouble lifting and boxing on the same day but if you can do it, do it.[/quote]
I’m not near his age but funny enough fighting never messed with my elbows, while triceps and shoulder work would generally murder it depending on the exercise.[/quote]
I wanted to try staying with my normal routine but my sometimes trainor suggested lifting in the morning and boxing at night. I wanted to keep MWF weights workout and tues and Thursday or Saturday for boxing.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
If you’re old and beat up, work into it slowly, especially if you have elbow issues.
It’s not as bad as weightlifting, but you do have to be careful - the stress it can put on the hands, wrists, elbows, and shoulders is absolutely tangible.
I say go for it. I always have trouble lifting and boxing on the same day but if you can do it, do it.[/quote]
I’m not near his age but funny enough fighting never messed with my elbows, while triceps and shoulder work would generally murder it depending on the exercise.[/quote]
Same for me. Skull crushers murder my elbows, and I have problems with anything involving that particular movement.
In boxing, the only time I have issues with my wrists or elbows are when my gloves go and I ignore it for too long.
My shoulders definitely feel it, but they’re the prime movers for the thousands of punches I throw, so that makes sense. Not feel it in a bad way, of course, but they are the part that can get especially sore or prone to injury for me.
I wanted to try staying with my normal routine but my sometimes trainor suggested lifting in the morning and boxing at night. I wanted to keep MWF weights workout and tues and Thursday or Saturday for boxing.
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I think lifting MWF and boxing TTS would work better if you don’t mind being in the gym every night. Especially if you don’t like morning workouts anyway. But if your diet and sleep is on point I think lifting in the morning and boxing in the evening will work too.
Either way, I think it’s awesome that you’re still kicking ass at 58.
I wanted to try staying with my normal routine but my sometimes trainor suggested lifting in the morning and boxing at night. I wanted to keep MWF weights workout and tues and Thursday or Saturday for boxing.
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I think lifting MWF and boxing TTS would work better if you don’t mind being in the gym every night. Especially if you don’t like morning workouts anyway. But if your diet and sleep is on point I think lifting in the morning and boxing in the evening will work too.
Either way, I think it’s awesome that you’re still kicking ass at 58.[/quote]
Thank you. My trainer thinks if I lift one day and box the next it doesn’t give my muscles time to recover. I mean lets face it when it comes to boxing both upper and lower body is getting worked. So it will be a trail and error thing I guess. So we will have to see
Dant - Welcome, I think that as you progress you may get more serious about the boxing. Some guys really get into it. I would encourage you to start a training log, there are a lot of people here that can give good advice down the road. Either way keep us posted.
I wanted to try staying with my normal routine but my sometimes trainor suggested lifting in the morning and boxing at night. I wanted to keep MWF weights workout and tues and Thursday or Saturday for boxing.
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I think lifting MWF and boxing TTS would work better if you don’t mind being in the gym every night. Especially if you don’t like morning workouts anyway. But if your diet and sleep is on point I think lifting in the morning and boxing in the evening will work too.
Either way, I think it’s awesome that you’re still kicking ass at 58.[/quote]
Thank you. My trainer thinks if I lift one day and box the next it doesn’t give my muscles time to recover. I mean lets face it when it comes to boxing both upper and lower body is getting worked. So it will be a trail and error thing I guess. So we will have to see[/quote]
I disagree pretty thoroughly with that concept, in my experience “muscles” don’t need near as much rest as most people think–it’s bad recovery and poor form and flexibility and all that. You don’t build endurance by letting muscles rest as much as they want. I know too many people of all ages that are living proof to the contrary.
But ultimately you need to do what feels best schedule wise, and whether it’s because of bad sleeping or bad nutrition or just not the way you feel best psychologically you have to use the schedule you like best. Work into it slowly and monitor, but I think you have a solid plan.
I wanted to try staying with my normal routine but my sometimes trainor suggested lifting in the morning and boxing at night. I wanted to keep MWF weights workout and tues and Thursday or Saturday for boxing.
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I think lifting MWF and boxing TTS would work better if you don’t mind being in the gym every night. Especially if you don’t like morning workouts anyway. But if your diet and sleep is on point I think lifting in the morning and boxing in the evening will work too.
Either way, I think it’s awesome that you’re still kicking ass at 58.[/quote]
Thank you. My trainer thinks if I lift one day and box the next it doesn’t give my muscles time to recover. I mean lets face it when it comes to boxing both upper and lower body is getting worked. So it will be a trail and error thing I guess. So we will have to see[/quote]
I disagree pretty thoroughly with that concept, in my experience “muscles” don’t need near as much rest as most people think–it’s bad recovery and poor form and flexibility and all that. You don’t build endurance by letting muscles rest as much as they want. I know too many people of all ages that are living proof to the contrary.
But ultimately you need to do what feels best schedule wise, and whether it’s because of bad sleeping or bad nutrition or just not the way you feel best psychologically you have to use the schedule you like best. Work into it slowly and monitor, but I think you have a solid plan.[/quote]
I pretty much agree with what you are saying that’s why I am sticking with my usual routine MWF and boxing T,Th and just see how i feel for boxing on saturday.
First thing though time to see the chiropractor lower back issue.
Hi, I am new here but since last November, I box Mon, Wed nights & Sat morning and also lift weights Mon, Tue, Wed, Thur, and Sat. I usually take a mid afternoon nap/rest time during the week with this training. I’m 31.
Yeah man, take care of your back first. There’s a LOT of trunk rotation in boxing, it can gimp you up pretty bad if you don’t have everything squared away.
Wow, this post could not have come more in handy at a different time. I am planning to start boxing next week and I was wondering how I could incorporate lifting weights into boxing. My main goal is to learn boxing well to be able to use it as self-defense in case I ever need it. But also get stronger and bigger (I know everybody says you can’t gain weight while doing so much cardio).
I am not sure if lifting weights on the same day as practice would be smart, or even how many days I should lift during the week. I would appreciate the input.
I think people worry too much about making things so scientific and planned. Guys, if you’re not competing, boxing is hell fun, beats walking on a treadmill for cardio and pay enough attention and apply yourself and you can actually develop some decent defense and offense skills above the Average Joe. In the end, I don’t think a serious sensible man on this earth will cry too much for losing a little size but gaining a crap load more fitness, real world fitness and also putting a little more bounce in their step with increased confidence in knowing they can throw a punch or two… Properly.
What I am saying is don’t stress about the trivial things, get into it, give it a crack, see how your body responds and what it needs to be able to maintain your own personalised balance. I’m 36 years of age, torn apart from pushing myself but even with all my injuries I will out run, out fight, out lift and have more energy in the sack than kids half my age… Lol. Have fun with it. Enjoy yourself.
[quote]humble wrote:
…and also putting a little more bounce in their step with increased confidence in knowing they can throw a punch or two… Properly. [/quote]
HA that reminds me of something I read on another forum, a guy asking why boxers seem so cocky sometimes. Another guy replied “Have you ever put someone to sleep with one hand? It feels good” lol