[quote]lizard king wrote:
Lt. Kilgore wrote:
Bill Roberts wrote:
You’re a dumbass who is prejudiced by the fact that you can’t deal with others being so superior to you, so you have to ascribe everything to drugs, even results that don’t require them, as his current results certainly don’t. And your attempt to estimate steroid dosage is just absurd, as is your claim of supposedly knowing that he must supposedly be on HRT. You’re one of those idiots who cannot tell the difference between knowing something and pulling it out of your ass. To summarize, you’re incredibly stupid, which would be one thing if you were aware of your limitation, but you compound it by thinking you know much when you do not. Goodbye.
really? im glad you resort to name calling around here since you’re so tough and strong online big guy.
FACT: i said his usage and dosage during this “comeback” were my opinion
FACT: you sir are so far removed from the pro ranks that you have no idea what their cycles are like
OPINION: im not really jealous of levrone i actually like him even tho dex has been my favorite even before he won his first arnold title
OPINION EVEN THO ITS DAMN NEAR FACT: pros are compulsive liars about their usage so (this is an opinion) i never trust anything they say about that
FACT: you never took serious dosages at a young age or else you would understand hrt
you sir are at an intermediate level of understanding pro’s usage. you know that the pros didn’t just get to their level based on how much they used but rather genetics coupled with ball busting intensity and devotion to getting their meals in. HOWEVER the doses used at the highest echelon of the pro ranks is mind boggling to someone like you (if you really think old pros aren’t on hrt you probably wouldn’t know where to put a syringe) and you just deny it because what i’m telling you doesn’t fit into your preconceived notions. time to swallow the red pill son
Wow. Did this guy just say that Bill Roberts has no understanding of steriod use, pro or otherwise? Wow… just wow.
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haha I think the majority of people will agree that claim was out of line!
He’s not exactly now looking quite like this, now, is he? (Posted previously by Alpha.)
One of the things that a lot of people don’t understand about AAS use, and particularly AAS combined with GH, is that permanent changes occur, specifically, at least with regard to the number of nuclei per muscle cells, thanks to fusion of satellite cells, and possibly to number of fibers as well, if satellite cells differentiate which may be the case.
It is not possible to naturally regain to the same level as peak condition with drugs when that was a product of years of quality training and use, but so far as rapidly improving from completely detrained, yes absolutely.
Backing up Bill; the increased proliferation of satellite cells in muscle owing to elevated testosterone levels also help in what people generally call muscle memory. This would be consistent for any individual who performed quality training for a number of years (although probably enhanced with AAS use). Combined with what Bill outlined above, this is basically what muscle memory is, not what people anectdotally suggest (the brain recognizes the muscle well, which is in part true, but not the whole reason).
The way I like to describe it is that someone like Levrone already has alot of the structures and foundations in place to build a really cool building quicker than someone with no foundations.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
“if you can bench 225 x10 you can bench 315”
i can bench 225x15 and i cant bench 315.[/quote]
I agree with this. I am at 225 for 10 on incline for my last set AFTER I do flat bench. I highly doubt I could 315 on incline for a single even if I did it BEFORE flat bench.
He is still nowhere near where he was when competing years ago. I know some of you seem extremely impressed…but did anyone here really think it would be hard for someone at that level to regain what they lost?
It isn’t like he is building this muscle for the first time.
[quote]chitown34 wrote:
Seems like his lower body is much weaker than upper. Struggles with 275 on squat but bangs out 100 lb dbs on military press? [/quote]
He could have knee pain for all we know. I know that limits how much I can use lately on legs. You also wouldn’t know it unless you specifically asked me.
From watching his training videos, I never once saw him squat, always the leg press. And he claimed the ONLY exercise he did for hamstrings was a standing one-legged curl.
I just want to clear something up. Since Kevin reached a much larger size than he would have been able to naturally (assuming there is a natural limit), it seems to me that means he would now be able to reach a larger size naturally than his original natural limit, because of muscle memory and such. Although, I guess no-one really knows, that makes sense, yes?
If so, am I the only one finding it a bit weird how everyone is calling this inspirational to people who want to be natural, because firstly, he has great genetics. Secondly, Kevin perhaps couldn’t even reach the size he will naturally, had he not been much bigger previously, with the aide of whatever-he-used.
Of course, it is somewhat inspirational, and I love the fact he’s maintaining this blog in the way he is, but the way I’m reading certain things people have said is “look, Kevin Levrone is getting huge naturally, that means you can be just as huge without using steroids!” which will likely not be the case for almost everyone.
For the record, I don’t doubt for a minute that this is a natural transformation, and imo the steroid test is pretty pointless as the critics will likely claim that he cheated it somehow.
