Emily, I wish you were my therapist
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Severiano wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]Severiano wrote:
I don’t know why we don’t just talk about these things plainly…
I’ll say it, Penis size, loose vagina… There… Talk about it.
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You certainly got a lot of mileage out of this comment… if you know what I mean[/quote]
Haha, I think its simply the way I presented it. Most people are uncomfortable discussing these topics because of their own insecurities. Funny thing, I figured since we are all sort of strangers here there’s no reason for those things to be true, but we aren’t really all strangers. So we can’t really discuss insecurities as anonymously as we pretend to. [/quote]
Nobody is uncomfortable. We’re just not relating to your ideas.[/quote]
I bring them up because they are insecurities we deal with from the time we hit puberty. The way they are connected in my mind is maybe a little different than most might be the difference?
I view physical sexual security and insecurity as very temporal and fleeting, and moreso for women since they are sexually viable for a shorter period of time than men insofar as procreation.
There are confidence aspects that come with being able to not only attract, but pleasure the opposite sex that are related to our game, attractiveness and our skillset in the sack which… Confidence of skillset in the sack includes things like penis size and vaginal hubris.
Now contrast the skillset with someone who may be attractive, successful, all that. But not confident in their skills, suffer from anxiety, lack confidence in their physical parts for various reasons. Usually it’s a combination of physical and psychological. There are other ways it can be connected, like if someone is willing to have sex with you but not willing to be a boyfriend or girlfriend because of some other aspect, like belonging to a particular race or culture. Or because they have categorized you as some sort of damaged good? People can also be sexual taboo or sexually exotic and be sort of pieces of meat. They can maintain a level of sexual confidence in that they know others desire them and find them attractive, but aren’t treated as they are worthy of a serious relationship and have confidence issues in that department.
Vaginal hubris, it’s funny, it actually exists.
[quote]Severiano wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Severiano wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]Severiano wrote:
I don’t know why we don’t just talk about these things plainly…
I’ll say it, Penis size, loose vagina… There… Talk about it.
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You certainly got a lot of mileage out of this comment… if you know what I mean[/quote]
Haha, I think its simply the way I presented it. Most people are uncomfortable discussing these topics because of their own insecurities. Funny thing, I figured since we are all sort of strangers here there’s no reason for those things to be true, but we aren’t really all strangers. So we can’t really discuss insecurities as anonymously as we pretend to. [/quote]
Nobody is uncomfortable. We’re just not relating to your ideas.[/quote]
I bring them up because they are insecurities we deal with from the time we hit puberty. The way they are connected in my mind is maybe a little different than most might be the difference?
I view physical sexual security and insecurity as very temporal and fleeting, and moreso for women since they are sexually viable for a shorter period of time than men insofar as procreation.
There are confidence aspects that come with being able to not only attract, but pleasure the opposite sex that are related to our game, attractiveness and our skillset in the sack which… Confidence of skillset in the sack includes things like penis size and vaginal hubris.
Now contrast the skillset with someone who may be attractive, successful, all that. But not confident in their skills, suffer from anxiety, lack confidence in their physical parts for various reasons. Usually it’s a combination of physical and psychological.
Vaginal hubris, it’s funny, it actually exists. [/quote]
Lets cut to the core, you read, but you dont understand.
Unless a penis is tiny, it is not an issue for most women.
Sex is psychological and for women much, much more so than for men.
Foreplay begins when your feet hits the floor in the morning, its all about what she perceives you to be, not what you look like (not entirely true, but still), not what your job is (not entirely true when it comes to LTRs, but way true when it comes to sex).
Her feels are all that matters.
Unfortunately, when you run around sobbing “mah penis!!!” her feels will be quite negative.
You can project insecurity unto anything, mind, body, social anxieties, status, wealth…
I dont understand why men think they need to be the perfect package when (most) bitches aint shit!
Actually, I do understand it very well, but it is still idiotic.
tldr: Take your perfectly average but determined and angry penis and dominate your world. Having done that, dominate some girls too, what they think about your life, dick, personality, should not even enter your mind because you will have your life in order whereas she, most likely, wont.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Severiano wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Severiano wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]Severiano wrote:
I don’t know why we don’t just talk about these things plainly…
I’ll say it, Penis size, loose vagina… There… Talk about it.
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You certainly got a lot of mileage out of this comment… if you know what I mean[/quote]
Haha, I think its simply the way I presented it. Most people are uncomfortable discussing these topics because of their own insecurities. Funny thing, I figured since we are all sort of strangers here there’s no reason for those things to be true, but we aren’t really all strangers. So we can’t really discuss insecurities as anonymously as we pretend to. [/quote]
Nobody is uncomfortable. We’re just not relating to your ideas.[/quote]
I bring them up because they are insecurities we deal with from the time we hit puberty. The way they are connected in my mind is maybe a little different than most might be the difference?
I view physical sexual security and insecurity as very temporal and fleeting, and moreso for women since they are sexually viable for a shorter period of time than men insofar as procreation.
There are confidence aspects that come with being able to not only attract, but pleasure the opposite sex that are related to our game, attractiveness and our skillset in the sack which… Confidence of skillset in the sack includes things like penis size and vaginal hubris.
Now contrast the skillset with someone who may be attractive, successful, all that. But not confident in their skills, suffer from anxiety, lack confidence in their physical parts for various reasons. Usually it’s a combination of physical and psychological.
Vaginal hubris, it’s funny, it actually exists. [/quote]
Lets cut to the core, you read, but you dont understand.
Unless a penis is tiny, it is not an issue for most women.
Sex is psychological and for women much, much more so than for men.
Foreplay begins when your feet hits the floor in the morning, its all about what she perceives you to be, not what you look like (not entirely true, but still), not what your job is (not entirely true when it comes to LTRs, but way true when it comes to sex).
Her feels are all that matters.
Unfortunately, when you run around sobbing “mah penis!!!” her feels will be quite negative.
You can project insecurity unto anything, mind, body, social anxieties, status, wealth…
I dont understand why men think they need to be the perfect package when (most) bitches aint shit!
Actually, I do understand it very well, but it is still idiotic.
tldr: Take your perfectly average but determined and angry penis and dominate your world. Having done that, dominate some girls too, what they think about your life, dick, personality, should not even enter your mind because you will have your life in order whereas she, most likely, wont. [/quote]
What’s funny is gender roles aren’t quite like that today. Sometimes guys are objectified as women are and on all of the same levels. It can be looks, race, penis size, etc… I know of lesbian couples that will only have sex with hung guys and seek such guys out, not just for short term arrangements either.
The other thing is the amount of SW professional women out there in their mid 30s and older on dating sites. Lots are successful, have degrees but have spent so much time on their careers they forget to have fun. Some are taboo seekers, some are looking for a younger fling, etc… The playing field isn’t really what people say it is or how most here seem to describe it.
Since we’re talking about penises- I was surprised by how many of my wifes friends wanted to see my sons when we brought him home- Like all of them! When it was time to change his diaper they all went running to see it. They all checked it out and were especially happy when the little bugger got wood.
I would have never guessed that was such a big thing. Once they got past the “oh, he’s so cute!” it went right to “Lets see how he’s hung!”. Based on their response, he shouldn’t have anything to worry about.
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Since we’re talking about penises- I was surprised by how many of my wifes friends wanted to see my sons when we brought him home- Like all of them! When it was time to change his diaper they all went running to see it. They all checked it out and were especially happy when the little bugger got wood.
I would have never guessed that was such a big thing. Once they got past the “oh, he’s so cute!” it went right to “Lets see how he’s hung!”. Based on their response, he shouldn’t have anything to worry about.
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I have a little cousin who actually had to have some kind of surgery on his penis when he was a little guy. I remember the women saying, “aww poor thing” about it. It was some kind of deformity that forced it to point and curve down, later I found out it was hypospadias… Was a long time ago, I was like 5 and he was in diapers.
But yeah, it’s a big deal for both men and women. Lol, the infant boner thing is awesome haha.
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Since we’re talking about penises- I was surprised by how many of my wifes friends wanted to see my sons when we brought him home- Like all of them! When it was time to change his diaper they all went running to see it. They all checked it out and were especially happy when the little bugger got wood.
I would have never guessed that was such a big thing. Once they got past the “oh, he’s so cute!” it went right to “Lets see how he’s hung!”. Based on their response, he shouldn’t have anything to worry about.
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Another humble brag.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Since we’re talking about penises- I was surprised by how many of my wifes friends wanted to see my sons when we brought him home- Like all of them! When it was time to change his diaper they all went running to see it. They all checked it out and were especially happy when the little bugger got wood.
I would have never guessed that was such a big thing. Once they got past the “oh, he’s so cute!” it went right to “Lets see how he’s hung!”. Based on their response, he shouldn’t have anything to worry about.
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Another humble brag.
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Or is that jealousy? Lol?
[quote]Severiano wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Since we’re talking about penises- I was surprised by how many of my wifes friends wanted to see my sons when we brought him home- Like all of them! When it was time to change his diaper they all went running to see it. They all checked it out and were especially happy when the little bugger got wood.
I would have never guessed that was such a big thing. Once they got past the “oh, he’s so cute!” it went right to “Lets see how he’s hung!”. Based on their response, he shouldn’t have anything to worry about.
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Another humble brag.
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Or is that jealousy? Lol? [/quote]
Why would he be jealous of his sons penis?
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]Severiano wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Since we’re talking about penises- I was surprised by how many of my wifes friends wanted to see my sons when we brought him home- Like all of them! When it was time to change his diaper they all went running to see it. They all checked it out and were especially happy when the little bugger got wood.
I would have never guessed that was such a big thing. Once they got past the “oh, he’s so cute!” it went right to “Lets see how he’s hung!”. Based on their response, he shouldn’t have anything to worry about.
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Another humble brag.
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Or is that jealousy? Lol? [/quote]
Why would he be jealous of his sons penis?
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I thought it was more you being jealous of him being able to brag about his sons penis. Do you have issues with your sons penis? Lol
[quote]Severiano wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]Severiano wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Since we’re talking about penises- I was surprised by how many of my wifes friends wanted to see my sons when we brought him home- Like all of them! When it was time to change his diaper they all went running to see it. They all checked it out and were especially happy when the little bugger got wood.
I would have never guessed that was such a big thing. Once they got past the “oh, he’s so cute!” it went right to “Lets see how he’s hung!”. Based on their response, he shouldn’t have anything to worry about.
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Another humble brag.
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Or is that jealousy? Lol? [/quote]
Why would he be jealous of his sons penis?
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I don’t know. Why would someone brag about his sons penis? [/quote]
Genetics?
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]Severiano wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]Severiano wrote:
[quote]Stinkfist wrote:
Vagina’s don’t get “stretched out” from dicks, no matter how many she’s had and no matter how big they were. LOL! [/quote]
Actually it does happen from, “dicks.” It can happen during rape/gang rape when a woman isn’t ready for penetration, a lot of permanent physical damage can take place. When young girls are molested permanent damage occurs as well.
Also, it’s not too common but there are women who do things like shows with farm animals and the odd woman who enjoys huge toys.
But, anyhow. Cheers. :)[/quote]
[quote]Severiano wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]Severiano wrote:
I don’t know why we don’t just talk about these things plainly…
I’ll say it, Penis size, loose vagina… There… Talk about it.
[/quote]
You certainly got a lot of mileage out of this comment… if you know what I mean[/quote]
Haha, I think its simply the way I presented it. Most people are uncomfortable discussing these topics because of their own insecurities. Funny thing, I figured since we are all sort of strangers here there’s no reason for those things to be true, but we aren’t really all strangers. So we can’t really discuss insecurities as anonymously as we pretend to. [/quote]
But now you’ve shifted again. What is your main point? Originally it was that men don’t want multi-partner women because they fear being too small for a stretched vagina. People disagreed that normal adult sex has this effect on vaginas.
Today you’re talking about little girls who’ve been molested and women who do farm animals. WTF, lol. By the way, vaginas are damaged by rape in that they can be torn and bruised and such, it doesn’t stretch them, though.
How is any of that “uncomfortable discussing these topics”?
On another note, I think rape is EXTREMELY interesting from an anthropological perspective. Why are women stigmatized for this by men when having had a consensual partner does not? Once upon a time it would have been because women were expected to be virgins. Not so today.
Yet the stigma and fear persists.[/quote]
On the rape thing, I think it’s because we have a sense that the woman is, “damaged goods.”
But it’s the same with the carousel thing. Men think women who have had a lot of partners are, “damaged goods.”
Even the way I grew up, having friends that were mixed black there was this notion that when a non black woman has a black partner she’s, “damaged goods.” But, if you are non black as a dude and have a black female partner who you know has had a black partner herself, it’s just a given and she isn’t, “damaged goods.” I guess there are some that are intimidated by black women as well as those who are truly racist. Still there are weird stigmas about the woman being loose from riding the carousel. I’ve brought up all the ideas I can with this, still not really sure if anyone has understood my point. [/quote]
Many women who have been molested or raped have some deep seated psychological trauma from the experience (and understandably so!). This often leads to various forms of affected behavior from addiction, bad relationship decisions, trust issues, sexual issues, etc… Although as I’ve said before, a vag can heal - that’s not the “damage” most people refer to, it’s the psychological damage and lack of dealing with the trauma that might deter someone from getting involved with a woman who has been abused. That’s not a moral judgement right or wrong, but it’s a fact that some men just don’t want to deal with it.
Personally, I’ve dealt with it with a few women I’ve had relationships with and have been as empathetic and compassionate as I could be. And some of the women had dealt with it and put it behind them and seemed to be at peace with their past and it didn’t really affect their observable behavior (to me at least), while other women had some serious issues surrounding their abuse that, frankly, got old really fast.
I’ve addressed the whole size issue before and it applies with women who have dated black men - I don’t really give a shit! I know what I’ve got, I know how to use it and I’ve never had any complaints. And I LOVE dating black women (and Spanish women, Asian women, etc…) I find beauty in all colors, shapes and sizes - variety is the spice of life! I certainly don’t worry about their vajayjay! LMAO
But on the flip side, I fully recognize that attraction isn’t a choice, so if someone isn’t attracted to other races, I certainly don’t hold it against them. But I sure as hell don’t limit myself to one narrow set of criteria. As long as they are pretty, not fat and have a good personality, I’m game. When I was bartending a few years ago, I ended up dating a VERY tall and proportionately stacked “Amazon” black chick that was built like a brick shit house. She was noticeably bigger than I was. We had great chemistry in the sack. In fact, I had to cut her loose because she got too attached. But it was funny when we went out and seeing the looks and hearing the not too subtle comments by people because of the stereotypes I was “breaking”.[/quote]
The other thing is she may have issues with the way she views herself because of those stereotypes you experienced. You do, “break” rules in that sense when you’re the average white dude and your dating a black goddess and taking care of business on all fronts.
Have you ever wondered why she got clingy? Maybe it’s because you treated her in a way that nobody else had and she became insecure about finding it from others? Maybe she got used to being treated like some sort of exotic fling, or somebody’s check in the box for a black person. Her clinginess may have been an insecurity stemming from those aspects of being objectified in some way.
Nobody said it’s limited to women about men. There are guys that this happens to as well.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]Severiano wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]Severiano wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Since we’re talking about penises- I was surprised by how many of my wifes friends wanted to see my sons when we brought him home- Like all of them! When it was time to change his diaper they all went running to see it. They all checked it out and were especially happy when the little bugger got wood.
I would have never guessed that was such a big thing. Once they got past the “oh, he’s so cute!” it went right to “Lets see how he’s hung!”. Based on their response, he shouldn’t have anything to worry about.
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Another humble brag.
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Or is that jealousy? Lol? [/quote]
Why would he be jealous of his sons penis?
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I don’t know. Why would someone brag about his sons penis? [/quote]
Genetics?
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So he was bragging indirectly about his own because of his sons. But then maybe you pointing it out is a form of jealousy? I’m really playing around, but it’s still pretty curious.
[quote]Severiano wrote:
So he was bragging indirectly about his own because of his sons. But then maybe you pointing it out is a form of jealousy? I’m really playing around, but it’s still pretty curious.
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It was me busting a friends balls Freud.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]Severiano wrote:
So he was bragging indirectly about his own because of his sons. But then maybe you pointing it out is a form of jealousy? I’m really playing around, but it’s still pretty curious.
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It was me busting a friends balls Freud.[/quote]
Haha, so that was me busting yours.
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Since we’re talking about penises- I was surprised by how many of my wifes friends wanted to see my sons when we brought him home- Like all of them! When it was time to change his diaper they all went running to see it. They all checked it out and were especially happy when the little bugger got wood.
I would have never guessed that was such a big thing. Once they got past the “oh, he’s so cute!” it went right to “Lets see how he’s hung!”. Based on their response, he shouldn’t have anything to worry about.
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Wtf?? That’s fucked up.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Since we’re talking about penises- I was surprised by how many of my wifes friends wanted to see my sons when we brought him home- Like all of them! When it was time to change his diaper they all went running to see it. They all checked it out and were especially happy when the little bugger got wood.
I would have never guessed that was such a big thing. Once they got past the “oh, he’s so cute!” it went right to “Lets see how he’s hung!”. Based on their response, he shouldn’t have anything to worry about.
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Wtf?? That’s fucked up.[/quote]
I’m WTFing my ass off here, too. I’ve never heard of or experienced such a thing, so my assumption, if this was a gathering of women and not a string of individuals visiting separately, is that someone* said something about it and the others got curious and looked, then joking ensued.
The only conversation I’ve ever been party to about a little guy’s penis was a mom with three sons worrying that one of them was considerably smaller and afraid that it would get him teased by other boys.
*I would not allow this someone to be alone with my son were I you.
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
On another note, I think rape is EXTREMELY interesting from an anthropological perspective. Why are women stigmatized for this by men when having had a consensual partner does not? Once upon a time it would have been because women were expected to be virgins. Not so today.
Yet the stigma and fear persists.[/quote]
Are women stigmatized for having been raped? I’ve heard of horror stories about cruel cops, and nurses, and doctors, and DA’s but I don’t know. It wouldn’t dawn on me to stigmatize a rape victim.
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Are they not? I think from women’s perspective there is an assumption that men (romantic partners and prospective partners) find it somewhat repugnant. Like an unclean thing.
Is this just the women’s own feeling projected?
AC, is it JUST about the emotional piece?
[quote]Severiano wrote:
[quote]Stinkfist wrote:
[quote]Severiano wrote:
[quote]Stinkfist wrote:
Vagina’s don’t get “stretched out” from dicks, no matter how many she’s had and no matter how big they were. LOL! [/quote]
Actually it does happen from, “dicks.” It can happen during rape/gang rape when a woman isn’t ready for penetration, a lot of permanent physical damage can take place. When young girls are molested permanent damage occurs as well.
Also, it’s not too common but there are women who do things like shows with farm animals and the odd woman who enjoys huge toys.
But, anyhow. Cheers. :)[/quote]
Actually, NO, it does not happen. This is a fact.
The only thing that “can” cause the vagina to change size permanently, is having children. And, that still doesn’t always apply to all women.
Your bro-science sex ed teacher has failed you miserably, bud.
Emily and AC are obviously spot on with their posts.[/quote]
Actually damage does occur from rape and child molestation to varying degrees. It’s common for the labia and fourchette to be torn, most tears happen from stretching, tears lead to scars, and scars are permanent for the most part. When it comes to small children it’s far worse and can be more mutilating. I get that we are going to most likely be entrenched in our opinions, I for one don’t believe that the only thing that can change a vag is child birth. But I guess we will all have opinions vs. knowledge. [/quote]
Severiano, when are you going to refill your Ritalin prescription? YES, damage occurs from rape. But rape does not cause stretching. YES, scar tissue can arise from tears. But tears do not cause stretching. YES, mutilations are mutilated and women who’ve been mutilated feel mutilated and may be self-conscious about their mutilation.
What has ANY of this to do with your position that men avoid promiscuous women because they are afraid their penises won’t be up to the task of managing the stretched vagina that results from promiscuity?
You’re all over the page, to a degree that doesn’t even make sense. WHAT is your position? Do you even know?
You’re giving me PMS and my boyfriend isn’t going to appreciate it.