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And I can still be an asshole, all completely side-free.

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Except im not. Im simply making a point.

First and foremost he hasn’t played the tired ass racism bullshit. I despise that. Backs police despite the hatred the left, dems and so many celebrities have towards them. The police are about the only people having any real affect on crime in our neighborhoods. Tired of people supporting criminal assholes. Then demonizing an entire profession the way WE were demonized in this country.

Don’t start with insults dude. It’s weak. You wanna lick Obama balls have at it. Fuck outta here with your “cognitive dissonance” shit. And y’all wonder why people are leaving your side. That’s cognitive dissonance. You refuse to let people have their own opinions after having their own unique experiences. It’s insulting and if I was a liberal coward I’d say racist but fuck it.

Honestly I think it really pisses some of y’all off that a minority doesn’t buy into the victimhood shit.

What or who do you credit for turning the country around during the great recession if it wasn’t the policies and actions of the Obama administration?

Im good dude. You wanted to be a dick when I haven’t at all. Peace

Do you see an issue with those two quotes? Saying you don’t like insults, and then going to issue a few insults of your own is in fact demonstrating cognitive dissonance.

Speaking only for myself here, but my issue has been all of your claims with out any demonstrable evidence. People respond to you with evidence and you respond with the quote above. This is not how debate should work.

Never let facts get in the way of your opinion. You know you just played the race card, right?

Have a good one.

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Look at you worms ganging up on the dude. He doesn’t agree with what you’re peddling. Whoopty fucking do. Lots of people think Obama sucked. He did. Not totally and he was a drone striking mother which I loved, but he was a weak leader. Lots of people think Trump sucks. And he does in some ways too. See how fucking easy that was ? Man you guys seem miserable. Live and let live.

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You’re just as bad fella.

What facts am I ignoring? Do you agree that the Obama administration did nothing to help the country out of the great recession?

I don’t have a problem with differing opinions. I have a problem with aggressiveness, making claims and never backing them up (and then resorting to fallacious logic), and strawmaning people who don’t agree with him as being racist libs.

I disagreed with the dude (which I do with you all the time), stated some facts to backup my opinion, and then asked him to explain his reasoning.

He told me to fuck off, said i lick Obama’s balls, insinuated I was racist and then took his ball and went home.

I’m glad you don’t act like that. We disagree on a lot, and you can be damn rough around the edges, but you at least have coherent arguments and are interested in hearing new facts and opinions, and are open to sharing your reasoning do I can hear new facts and opinions.

I don’t particularly view it like that. He said obama has done nothing for black people a demonstrably false claim. For some reason said it was dumb people try to give credit to just one person while only giving Trump credit. Far as I can tell most everyone who “ganged up” on him have said positive things about Trump in this very thread.

Calling out people for having no evidence for their claims is important on a message board. I would want just as much evidence for anti-Obama claims as I would anti-Trump. I’d like to think more often than not when I say something about what he’s said/done usually it’s provable more often than not.

I’m sure plenty of people had a similar position when open slavery was still practised.

Lawn mowing is just a stereotype I used to illustrate a point, that most people will accept the idea if they are getting something for cheaper than usual, and that they can’t see an immediate downside to what is illegal activity, they will go along with it. Its not until the repercussions of certain actions start to negatively impact them, do they actually take a stand against it.

The same patterns of becoming lazy and the overreliance on foreign workers lead to the decay of the Roman civilization. The foreign workers one day realised Romans had become weak, and took over and ransacked the empire.

If you can see a pattern of behaviour forming, that in in past has proven to lead to negative consequences to a nation, you would be a fool not to recognise it and do something about it.

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Interesting way to look at it. The cost of living would rise substantially. Do you think Americans would be willing to endure a lower standard of affordable living in exchange for no illegally immigrants? I guess I don’t think the immigrant problem is as bad as the economic problem would be if they werent here.

Has there been a study done comparing the economic impacts of eliminating illegal immigration, and relying on current rates of legal immigration vs. the current situation?

Quoted for truth.

First and foremost…okay then anything else? I agree with what you think he’s doing - I agree with supporting (good) cops, and think more people should have less anger towards them, but I’m wondering what he’s actually done.

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It’s so ironic to me that on the actual “on-topic” threads (pursuit of muscle/health), experience is valued above all, and especially above geeks with no results spouting “studies”.

On the politics boards, the general atmosphere is exactly the opposite. Hilarious.

Oh, that’s just your own personal experience, that’s not relevant at all…here, let me tell you what you should actually think…

It’s all so much…infinite variations of “you didn’t build that” LOL.

^^ Yep. I’m intentionally “triggering” HAH.