Feeding the nation. Yes its important, but getting mainly illegal immigrants to work for less than your fellow citizens is highly unethical. You do realise most first world countries were able to do this at affordable rates before illegal immigrants? Using illegal immigrants as a basis for running an industry smacks of pseudo slavery.
I understand it might be good to get your lawn mown at a cheap rate by Jose the illegal immigrant. When it comes time for your children to get a job, and Jose’s young relatives are willing to do it for less $ what are you going to do then?
Based on what I see. You already had KKK and Nazi types before but they were fringe groups, now that the left is getting crazier than ever there are people who start to sympathize with groups such as the former. White supremacists have been around for a long time, but gay marriage, legal bestiality, and gender-neutral everything are recent developments.
This is why big corporations support mass/illegal immigration, they get a whole bunch of cheap labour which in turn drives down wages for everyone. Over here, minimum wage went up by almost $3/hour a couple years ago but average wages for everyone else had no significant increase, and as a result of increased minimum wages all the prices in stores went up. This is how communists come into power, championing the underclass while screwing everyone over until they have control, and then everyone gets screwed permanently.
The thing that neither the left nor right seem to grasp is that people are immigrating due to the problems in their countries, which in many cases are a result of actions by western nations. The flood of immigrants into Europe began after Gaddafi was killed, most of them are coming through Libya. Central America is messed up because of US intervention in the region and involvement in civil wars. Stop causing problems in the first place, and rather than bringing everyone here why not help to fix their countries instead?
This doesn’t make sense. Your argument is that the left is getting crazy so people are starting to think Nazi’s and the KKK aren’t bad?
So your argument is that gay marriage is increasing the number of white supremacists? I guess I’ve heard everything now. Bestiality isn’t legal here although I also don’t see how it would have an effect on white supremacy.
“Well if gays are going to get married I guess I want to round up all black people and send them to Africa as whites are the superior race.”
Right wingers need to own their shit from time to time. The idea that right wing problems exist only because of the left is mind boggling.
Of course it is. Are we expecting super wealthy corporations and people to often be ethical?
Yes. But things change. This is the state of the nation at this point. If you want shit to get real bad in a hurry deport all illegal immigrants tomorrow. I’m not disagreeing however those places depend on them. So ethically if right wrong or indifferent it doesn’t change where we are at at this point in history.
Lawn mowing isn’t really the concern. Feedlots and farms and other industries across the nation are.
Also people aren’t having any problem finding a job right now. Our unemployment is very low with numerous jobs open. So apparently Jose ain’t having much of a negative impact.
So how else do you explain the resurgence of white nationalism?
Don’t be stupid, that’s not what I’m saying at all. My point is that previously unheard of left wing phenomena have gone mainstream, and people are pushing back.
Again, that’s not what I’m saying at all. You see how before 9/11 there wasn’t so much anti-Muslim sentiment? It’s the same idea, people feel they are under attack, physically or politically, and they fight back and align themselves with those who have similar ideas. Not all left wingers want open borders, but to fight against Trump you have to mix up with those sorts of people. Same concept.
Is the acceptance of white nationalism the Republican response to far left loons, or are far left loons the democratic response to the rights acceptance of white nationalism?
A President who speaks their language. One who they have said finally we have someone like us in office. Not saying it’s all on Trump but that seems a lot more likely than “white supremacists are back and blame it on Bernie!”
I’m not. You linked them not me. And that’s a stupid position to take. They also aren’t mainstream at least not in America. But hey I suppose anyone who fucks an animal tonight we can blame it on the left! And kids. Hell Catholic priests fuck kids because the left has gone nuts!
So the left is physically (demonstrably proven on this forum many times as less than the right) attacking and so they think white supremacy is cool? So the left is politically attacking them so they want to wear a hood? I don’t care how much someone attacks me it’s not going to turn me into a white supremacist.
Maybe just maybe they aren’t linked in the slightest. These people were always there they just aren’t quite as scared to come out of the woods. I know why I feel it happened and it doesn’t have much to do with Joe Biden, Hilary Clinton, etc.
White nationalist are “coming out” in greater numbers recently for the same reason LGBTQ folks are “coming out” in greater numbers… The accepting communities are larger and they feel more accepted and safer doing so.
This makes sense to me. I think both sides have shifted. I think Trump and right wing media is largely responsible for the GOP’s shift to the right. I am not sure what is driving the DEM’s shift to the left.
Additionally, I think a driver of the shift on both sides is the election and primary system. Things like rank choice, having election / primary election days as holidays, and moving away from a two party system would result in candidates that are not so different, but more of left leaning moderate, vs right leaning moderate. The country would not be so divided. I hope these things come.
Probably a bit of both. But all this open border stuff has really pushed moderate people toward extreme right positions, especially in Europe.
So around 50% of Americans are white supremacists? Can you simultaneously be a zionist and a white supremacist?
Me neither, but some people think differently. See all those BLM protestors attacking white bystanders? Stuff like that will make people sympathize with white nationalists, and maybe join them as well.
The resurgence of white nationalism isn’t only in the US, and it was happening before Trump was elected.
Which speech specifically or in context ? Not denying it, but you can’t lay it all at Trump’s feet. It’s also a natural; albeit moronic but not surprising, reaction to the daily bashing of normal non racist whites by the unhinged types on the left.
Even some of the Dem candidates are engaging in this crap.
At what point do people judge each other as an individual and not as a whole ?
Damn, I was only gonna list two off the top of my head in Steve King from Iowa, a Matt O’Shea from WA, but this is a pretty good list (some descriptions are a reach, but most are pretty blatant sympathisers):. Hate Goes to Washington | Southern Poverty Law Center
Agreed on being skeptical, but just give it a read through, it’s quick. Some of the anti LGBTQ stuff smacks of just conservative values, while other anti-lgbtq stuff smacks of blatant bigotry (to me). Then there are all the other folks on thrre who I think pretty objectively support and receive support from hate groups.
And if you are being honest, I think you know that Trump has danced along a very fine line in an attempt to fire up that part of his base.
I miss the days of McCain calling out that lady at a campaign rally for incorrectly talking shit about “Muslim Obama”. Too many folks lacking principles and pride nowadays.