Leaving Behind My Best Friend

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[quote]MrZsasz wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Typhoon wrote:
I can think of much worse things for a son to be doing than this. While certainly not something a Dad would be thrilled with, I can hardly say that this is up there on my list of things I truly hope my son doesn’t end up doing. [/quote]
You’re obviously not getting it.[/quote]

So is it just the “brony” thing that is the problem? Because it seems like that is just one part of the OP’s issue with his friend, a big one but still. More that he has no drive or motivation to do anything. Or that his drive and motivation is to things that the OP considers hobbies or pastimes. It was mentioned that his parents are wealthy, but how wealthy? If this is just some rich kid who has chosen to idle his life away due to no money issues, it’s a different story somewhat. Somewhat.

Not to say that the “brony” thing isn’t on the way far side of weird, but would this still be the issue if he was hyper-interested in a sports team? We all know that guy, watches every game, has multiples jerseys, constantly listens to sports talk radio, has to watch the draft, talks about every teen player who is up and coming, etc.[/quote]

1st paragraph - on target.
2nd paragraph - gonna have to disagree. To me - a guy who is really into a team/sport doesn’t scream totally fucked up in the same way a guy who is into My Little Pony does. “I can’t wait for the Colts game this Sunday” sounds a bit different than, “I can’t wait to watch My Little Pony this Sunday” coming from an adult male.

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[quote]AliveAgain36 wrote:

[quote]MrZsasz wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Typhoon wrote:
I can think of much worse things for a son to be doing than this. While certainly not something a Dad would be thrilled with, I can hardly say that this is up there on my list of things I truly hope my son doesn’t end up doing. [/quote]
You’re obviously not getting it.[/quote]

So is it just the “brony” thing that is the problem? Because it seems like that is just one part of the OP’s issue with his friend, a big one but still. More that he has no drive or motivation to do anything. Or that his drive and motivation is to things that the OP considers hobbies or pastimes. It was mentioned that his parents are wealthy, but how wealthy? If this is just some rich kid who has chosen to idle his life away due to no money issues, it’s a different story somewhat. Somewhat.

Not to say that the “brony” thing isn’t on the way far side of weird, but would this still be the issue if he was hyper-interested in a sports team? We all know that guy, watches every game, has multiples jerseys, constantly listens to sports talk radio, has to watch the draft, talks about every teen player who is up and coming, etc.[/quote]

1st paragraph - on target.
2nd paragraph - gonna have to disagree. To me - a guy who is really into a team/sport doesn’t scream totally fucked up in the same way a guy who is into My Little Pony does. “I can’t wait for the Colts game this Sunday” sounds a bit different than, “I can’t wait to watch My Little Pony this Sunday” coming from an adult male.[/quote]

You are just describing social norms now. 12 years ago I was a weirdo for spending a lot of my time playing video games, now pretty much every teenage/young adult guy does it. Young adults that watched anime/cartoons were pretty strange people a bit over a decade ago. Now tons of guys have seen Pixar cartoon movies.

While certainly I don’t foresee “I can’t wait to watch My Little Pony this Sunday” to be an acceptable comment from a young adult male anytime soon/or ever, it might not be as strange as it seems now.

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Falling outside current social norms is the definition of weirdo…

Even if social norms are arbitrary and irrational, there is a reason most people don’t violate them and that has to do with their social connection to the people around them. Some people are unique and are just challenging the norms but some just have no idea how to fit.

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[quote]Typhoon wrote:

[quote]AliveAgain36 wrote:

[quote]MrZsasz wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Typhoon wrote:
I can think of much worse things for a son to be doing than this. While certainly not something a Dad would be thrilled with, I can hardly say that this is up there on my list of things I truly hope my son doesn’t end up doing. [/quote]
You’re obviously not getting it.[/quote]

So is it just the “brony” thing that is the problem? Because it seems like that is just one part of the OP’s issue with his friend, a big one but still. More that he has no drive or motivation to do anything. Or that his drive and motivation is to things that the OP considers hobbies or pastimes. It was mentioned that his parents are wealthy, but how wealthy? If this is just some rich kid who has chosen to idle his life away due to no money issues, it’s a different story somewhat. Somewhat.

Not to say that the “brony” thing isn’t on the way far side of weird, but would this still be the issue if he was hyper-interested in a sports team? We all know that guy, watches every game, has multiples jerseys, constantly listens to sports talk radio, has to watch the draft, talks about every teen player who is up and coming, etc.[/quote]

1st paragraph - on target.
2nd paragraph - gonna have to disagree. To me - a guy who is really into a team/sport doesn’t scream totally fucked up in the same way a guy who is into My Little Pony does. “I can’t wait for the Colts game this Sunday” sounds a bit different than, “I can’t wait to watch My Little Pony this Sunday” coming from an adult male.[/quote]

You are just describing social norms now. 12 years ago I was a weirdo for spending a lot of my time playing video games, now pretty much every teenage/young adult guy does it. Young adults that watched anime/cartoons were pretty strange people a bit over a decade ago. Now tons of guys have seen Pixar cartoon movies.

While certainly I don’t foresee “I can’t wait to watch My Little Pony this Sunday” to be an acceptable comment from a young adult male anytime soon/or ever, it might not be as strange as it seems now. [/quote]

Huh?

12 years ago you were not a weirdo for playing video games…

Playstation 2 had been out for over a year and Xbox hit the market with Halo? Video games were TOTALLY mainstream. And this is post NES and the boom in the 90’s. Sorry bro - nice try.

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[quote]AliveAgain36 wrote:

[quote]Typhoon wrote:

[quote]AliveAgain36 wrote:

[quote]MrZsasz wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Typhoon wrote:
I can think of much worse things for a son to be doing than this. While certainly not something a Dad would be thrilled with, I can hardly say that this is up there on my list of things I truly hope my son doesn’t end up doing. [/quote]
You’re obviously not getting it.[/quote]

So is it just the “brony” thing that is the problem? Because it seems like that is just one part of the OP’s issue with his friend, a big one but still. More that he has no drive or motivation to do anything. Or that his drive and motivation is to things that the OP considers hobbies or pastimes. It was mentioned that his parents are wealthy, but how wealthy? If this is just some rich kid who has chosen to idle his life away due to no money issues, it’s a different story somewhat. Somewhat.

Not to say that the “brony” thing isn’t on the way far side of weird, but would this still be the issue if he was hyper-interested in a sports team? We all know that guy, watches every game, has multiples jerseys, constantly listens to sports talk radio, has to watch the draft, talks about every teen player who is up and coming, etc.[/quote]

1st paragraph - on target.
2nd paragraph - gonna have to disagree. To me - a guy who is really into a team/sport doesn’t scream totally fucked up in the same way a guy who is into My Little Pony does. “I can’t wait for the Colts game this Sunday” sounds a bit different than, “I can’t wait to watch My Little Pony this Sunday” coming from an adult male.[/quote]

You are just describing social norms now. 12 years ago I was a weirdo for spending a lot of my time playing video games, now pretty much every teenage/young adult guy does it. Young adults that watched anime/cartoons were pretty strange people a bit over a decade ago. Now tons of guys have seen Pixar cartoon movies.

While certainly I don’t foresee “I can’t wait to watch My Little Pony this Sunday” to be an acceptable comment from a young adult male anytime soon/or ever, it might not be as strange as it seems now. [/quote]

Huh?

12 years ago you were not a weirdo for playing video games…

Playstation 2 had been out for over a year and Xbox hit the market with Halo? Video games were TOTALLY mainstream. And this is post NES and the boom in the 90’s. Sorry bro - nice try.
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Uh yea these were packed in the 80’s believe me.

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[quote]Typhoon wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Typhoon wrote:
I can think of much worse things for a son to be doing than this. While certainly not something a Dad would be thrilled with, I can hardly say that this is up there on my list of things I truly hope my son doesn’t end up doing. [/quote]
You’re obviously not getting it.[/quote]

I am not getting that this just isn’t that high up on my list of things I hope my son doesn’t do? You can say you have a different view about it but it’s pretty presumptuous to think that I don’t get my own opinion/list. [/quote]

You keep referring to this list, which makes me curious.

Do you have a son?

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If he’s your best friend I’m not seeing what the problem is. Unless he’s doing something illegal or immorals why do you need to stop being his friend?

I wouldn’t drop a friend simply because how he acts isn’t considered the social norm. Basically don’t be friends with him if you don’t want to be not because society doesn’t want you to be.

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[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]Typhoon wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Typhoon wrote:
I can think of much worse things for a son to be doing than this. While certainly not something a Dad would be thrilled with, I can hardly say that this is up there on my list of things I truly hope my son doesn’t end up doing. [/quote]
You’re obviously not getting it.[/quote]

I am not getting that this just isn’t that high up on my list of things I hope my son doesn’t do? You can say you have a different view about it but it’s pretty presumptuous to think that I don’t get my own opinion/list. [/quote]

You keep referring to this list, which makes me curious.

Do you have a son?
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Every Brony, or whatever the fuck it’s called, just needs a solid minute and half with a hooker. They will stop that shit instantly.

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[quote]AliveAgain36 wrote:

[quote]Typhoon wrote:

[quote]AliveAgain36 wrote:

[quote]MrZsasz wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Typhoon wrote:
I can think of much worse things for a son to be doing than this. While certainly not something a Dad would be thrilled with, I can hardly say that this is up there on my list of things I truly hope my son doesn’t end up doing. [/quote]
You’re obviously not getting it.[/quote]

So is it just the “brony” thing that is the problem? Because it seems like that is just one part of the OP’s issue with his friend, a big one but still. More that he has no drive or motivation to do anything. Or that his drive and motivation is to things that the OP considers hobbies or pastimes. It was mentioned that his parents are wealthy, but how wealthy? If this is just some rich kid who has chosen to idle his life away due to no money issues, it’s a different story somewhat. Somewhat.

Not to say that the “brony” thing isn’t on the way far side of weird, but would this still be the issue if he was hyper-interested in a sports team? We all know that guy, watches every game, has multiples jerseys, constantly listens to sports talk radio, has to watch the draft, talks about every teen player who is up and coming, etc.[/quote]

1st paragraph - on target.
2nd paragraph - gonna have to disagree. To me - a guy who is really into a team/sport doesn’t scream totally fucked up in the same way a guy who is into My Little Pony does. “I can’t wait for the Colts game this Sunday” sounds a bit different than, “I can’t wait to watch My Little Pony this Sunday” coming from an adult male.[/quote]

You are just describing social norms now. 12 years ago I was a weirdo for spending a lot of my time playing video games, now pretty much every teenage/young adult guy does it. Young adults that watched anime/cartoons were pretty strange people a bit over a decade ago. Now tons of guys have seen Pixar cartoon movies.

While certainly I don’t foresee “I can’t wait to watch My Little Pony this Sunday” to be an acceptable comment from a young adult male anytime soon/or ever, it might not be as strange as it seems now. [/quote]

Huh?

12 years ago you were not a weirdo for playing video games…

Playstation 2 had been out for over a year and Xbox hit the market with Halo? Video games were TOTALLY mainstream. And this is post NES and the boom in the 90’s. Sorry bro - nice try.
[/quote]

Yeah that seemed off, fine 20 years ago.

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[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]Typhoon wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Typhoon wrote:
I can think of much worse things for a son to be doing than this. While certainly not something a Dad would be thrilled with, I can hardly say that this is up there on my list of things I truly hope my son doesn’t end up doing. [/quote]
You’re obviously not getting it.[/quote]

I am not getting that this just isn’t that high up on my list of things I hope my son doesn’t do? You can say you have a different view about it but it’s pretty presumptuous to think that I don’t get my own opinion/list. [/quote]

You keep referring to this list, which makes me curious.

Do you have a son?
[/quote]

Yes, 2 in a half.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
If he’s your best friend I’m not seeing what the problem is. Unless he’s doing something illegal or immorals why do you need to stop being his friend?

I wouldn’t drop a friend simply because how he acts isn’t considered the social norm. Basically don’t be friends with him if you don’t want to be not because society doesn’t want you to be. [/quote]

Agreed

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
If he’s your best friend I’m not seeing what the problem is. Unless he’s doing something illegal or immorals why do you need to stop being his friend?

I wouldn’t drop a friend simply because how he acts isn’t considered the social norm. Basically don’t be friends with him if you don’t want to be not because society doesn’t want you to be. [/quote]

I don’t think it is because society doesn’t approve, it’s because he doesn’t approve. He thinks it’s disturbing and it probably means he has no respect for the guy. Can you remain friends with no respect for someone and contempt for what they love? Probably. Should you? I don’t know. I guess that is the question.

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[quote]Typhoon wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Typhoon wrote:
I can think of much worse things for a son to be doing than this. While certainly not something a Dad would be thrilled with, I can hardly say that this is up there on my list of things I truly hope my son doesn’t end up doing. [/quote]
You’re obviously not getting it.[/quote]
I am not getting that this just isn’t that high up on my list of things I hope my son doesn’t do? You can say you have a different view about it but it’s pretty presumptuous to think that I don’t get my own opinion/list. [/quote]
You did a strangely terrible job of inferring the object of my sentence.

“I can think of much worse things for a son to be doing than this. While certainly not something a Dad would be thrilled with, I can hardly say that this is up there on my list of things I truly hope my son doesn’t end up doing.”

It’s the “this” that we’ve been talking about. You don’t seem to see very far past a boy watching a cartoon show. We’re talking about adult men in a subculture that extends well beyond a TV show and indeed well beyond the subject of My Little Pony itself.

I have to believe that the men involved in such ventures are only the most colossal of introverted, confidence lacking half-wits, totally bereft of any self-esteem, confidence, or drive who are doomed to live lives of apathy on your dime and whose genetic material will never be passed on any farther than their sock drawer.

If that’s not SOMEWHERE up on the list of things you don’t want to happen to your son, then God help you both.

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[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
If he’s your best friend I’m not seeing what the problem is. Unless he’s doing something illegal or immorals why do you need to stop being his friend?

I wouldn’t drop a friend simply because how he acts isn’t considered the social norm. Basically don’t be friends with him if you don’t want to be not because society doesn’t want you to be. [/quote]

I don’t think it is because society doesn’t approve, it’s because he doesn’t approve. He thinks it’s disturbing and it probably means he has no respect for the guy. Can you remain friends with no respect for someone and contempt for what they love? Probably. Should you? I don’t know. I guess that is the question.[/quote]

My initial point is that it really shouldn’t be a question. You don’t respect/like/enjoy the guys company/life choices, only real choice is to not hang out with him anymore. Trying to change him is the option that others have proposed/op proposed, which I think is just inane.

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[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
If he’s your best friend I’m not seeing what the problem is. Unless he’s doing something illegal or immorals why do you need to stop being his friend?

I wouldn’t drop a friend simply because how he acts isn’t considered the social norm. Basically don’t be friends with him if you don’t want to be not because society doesn’t want you to be. [/quote]

I don’t think it is because society doesn’t approve, it’s because he doesn’t approve. He thinks it’s disturbing and it probably means he has no respect for the guy. Can you remain friends with no respect for someone and contempt for what they love? Probably. Should you? I don’t know. I guess that is the question.[/quote]

Ya, I agree. If he doesn’t want to be his friend for personal reasons that’s fine. I’d hate see him lose a good friend because he’s into My Little Pony instead of G.I. Joe just because society says G.I. Joe is okay, but My Little Pony isn’t.

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[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Typhoon wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Typhoon wrote:
I can think of much worse things for a son to be doing than this. While certainly not something a Dad would be thrilled with, I can hardly say that this is up there on my list of things I truly hope my son doesn’t end up doing. [/quote]
You’re obviously not getting it.[/quote]
I am not getting that this just isn’t that high up on my list of things I hope my son doesn’t do? You can say you have a different view about it but it’s pretty presumptuous to think that I don’t get my own opinion/list. [/quote]
You did a strangely terrible job of inferring the object of my sentence.

“I can think of much worse things for a son to be doing than this. While certainly not something a Dad would be thrilled with, I can hardly say that this is up there on my list of things I truly hope my son doesn’t end up doing.”

It’s the “this” that we’ve been talking about. You don’t seem to see very far past a boy watching a cartoon show. We’re talking about adult men in a subculture that extends well beyond a TV show and indeed well beyond the subject of My Little Pony itself.

I have to believe that the men involved in such ventures are only the most colossal of introverted, confidence lacking half-wits, totally bereft of any self-esteem, confidence, or drive who are doomed to live lives of apathy on your dime and whose genetic material will never be passed on any farther than their sock drawer.

If that’s not SOMEWHERE up on the list of things you don’t want to happen to your son, then God help you both.[/quote]

Once again assuming my position and opinion, both your arguments are made/created on a bases of assuming my view points which, in my opinion, tend to make people presumptuous asses. But I am willing to admit that perhaps I didn’t explain my point very clearly.

While I certainly agree with you on me not wanting “are only the most colossal of introverted, confidence lacking half-wits, totally bereft of any self-esteem, confidence, or drive who are doomed to live lives of apathy on your dime and whose genetic material will never be passed on any farther than their sock drawer.” for my son. You are assuming that everyone who watches this show as an adult is like that. It’s pretty crazy to think that watching a kids cartoon show as an adult male will make you into that. Or that only introverts, half-wits totally bereft of any self-esteem, confidence are ones interested in these things.

Hell I watch a ton of anime, play lots of video games and know many adults with family lives that do the same. We organize our time for these things and give up other things like going out to bars and parties for them. Most of these guys lead fine lives with careers and families. While it’s not the same thing as watching said show, most people would me and these guys in the same category.

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[quote]Typhoon wrote:
You are assuming that everyone who watches this show as an adult is like that.

Or that only introverts, half-wits totally bereft of any self-esteem, confidence are ones interested in these things.
[/quote]
Excellent null hypothesis! If only we had data!

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[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Typhoon wrote:
You are assuming that everyone who watches this show as an adult is like that.

Or that only introverts, half-wits totally bereft of any self-esteem, confidence are ones interested in these things.
[/quote]
Excellent null hypothesis! If only we had data![/quote]

Well lets see my opinion is actually grounded on examples of knowing some of these guys…your is…pulled out of your ass as far as I can tell.

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[quote]Typhoon wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Typhoon wrote:
You are assuming that everyone who watches this show as an adult is like that.

Or that only introverts, half-wits totally bereft of any self-esteem, confidence are ones interested in these things.
[/quote]
Excellent null hypothesis! If only we had data![/quote]

Well lets see my opinion is actually grounded on examples of knowing some of these guys…your is…pulled out of your ass as far as I can tell.[/quote]
Oh I see… I’m sorry I offended you Typhoon. I don’t want anypony on TNation to feel persecuted. I want you to know that I love and tolerate you, and if we ever met in person, I would give you a brohoof.

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[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Typhoon wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Typhoon wrote:
You are assuming that everyone who watches this show as an adult is like that.

Or that only introverts, half-wits totally bereft of any self-esteem, confidence are ones interested in these things.
[/quote]
Excellent null hypothesis! If only we had data![/quote]

Well lets see my opinion is actually grounded on examples of knowing some of these guys…your is…pulled out of your ass as far as I can tell.[/quote]
Oh I see… I’m sorry I offended you Typhoon. I don’t want anypony on TNation to feel persecuted. I want you to know that I love and tolerate you, and if we ever met in person, I would give you a brohoof.[/quote]

Aaaahhahahaa stop please

OP I agree with a few other posters here, stay friends with him because you guys are friends, but really he isn’t your responsibility, as much as you seem to want to take it on (I’m the same way).

I basically volunteered to put my friend through high school (hasn’t graduated) by answering everything for him just so he wouldn’t have to be considered a low life, still wouldn’t get it together and go so eventually I just gave up. It’s not worth it, just don’t let the guy drag you down, break it off if that starts.