I am gonna do a nice clean bulk like everyone has suggested,i really do need to pack on muscle b4 i even think about cutting…I gues i just gotta deal with feeling blah for awhile lol…
i just started Rippetoe’s Starting Strength yesterday been reading lots of goood thing about this program…
[quote]WannaBeStronG wrote:
I am gonna do a nice clean bulk like everyone has suggested,i really do need to pack on muscle b4 i even think about cutting…I gues i just gotta deal with feeling blah for awhile lol…
i just started Rippetoe’s Starting Strength yesterday been reading lots of goood thing about this program…[/quote]
I think you’ll be happy with that decision.
[quote]WannaBeStronG wrote:
I gues i just gotta deal with feeling blah for awhile lol…
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Think of it like a bank. Your patience will be rewarded. So you may have a belly. Boo hoo. Money in the bank, buddy. It’s the only way you’ll guarantee yourself that you’re eating over maintenance and grow muscle. Losing the fat is easy compared to building muscle.
In a year, you’ll come back and thank us.
[quote]kroby wrote:
WannaBeStronG wrote:
I gues i just gotta deal with feeling blah for awhile lol…
Think of it like a bank. Your patience will be rewarded. So you may have a belly. Boo hoo. Money in the bank, buddy. It’s the only way you’ll guarantee yourself that you’re eating over maintenance and grow muscle. Losing the fat is easy compared to building muscle.
In a year, you’ll come back and thank us.[/quote]
I’m afraid that food is a bad thing today. People think bulking means FATTY. Damn!
It took me 2 years to gain 25-30 lbs of pure muscle.
It took me 2 months to shed 15-20 lbs of fat.
Just eat HARD and Train HARD…don’t overthink shit.
You have just put on the only smile on my face today.
In the past 8 months, I went from an obese (but strong) 5’9 285 pounder, to 165 lbs (3 weeks ago) (using my idea of what was low-carb). 120 lb weight loss. Sounds good right? NOT! MY ARMS ARE twigs now, and i still have that “tub of chub” sitting at my waist, and a bunch of loose skin on top of that everywhere.
I’ve realized that I’ll have to suffer the bigger and fatter look to gain some muscle (I just don’t want to go over 200 pounds, I weigh around 182 right now, and I’m a skinny fat person. I’ve decided to give the anabolic diet a try, yet I hear from lowcarbmuscle.com that ketosis can be very catabolic. (maybe in a calorie deficit, but what about a calorie surplus?).
I know i’ve lost tons of muscle (arms are twigs, and still no six pack even after 120 lb. weight loss). I didn’t do any weight training while losing all the weight, and now I’ve picked that up, and dropped the cardio and limited only to 10 minutes before my workout sessions.
I need to regain at least 30 pounds of muscle before I try to lose the weight again (maybe with a more moderate carb-cycling approach, instead of induction type lowcarbing for 6 months straight).
Whenever I go on a carb binge, I swell up and my belly inflates like a 18wheeler’s tire. It’s disgusting. I want muscle. I need it. Badly.
Sure, but when you start out overfat, the prospect of adding more fat (even with muscle) sounds a little counterproductive. I can’t speak for everyone, but I’m doing this to look better. I trust what you are saying, it’s just hard to wrap my head around the idea of intentionally putting on some fat.
Great. What about when you start out with an extra 60 pounds of fat? I don’t want to wait 2 years to look good.
Yeah I can eat like a maniac and I love to train hard, but the overthinking is a bitch!
[quote]blzy wrote:
<<< The problem for us noobs is all the conflicting information out there. The advise to read everything out there is great, but sometimes it’s completely overwhelming. For example,on this site alone, I’ve read:
Add in the fact that a lot of us start our path to weight lifting through magazines like Men’s Health, etc. It’s no wonder we are confused. Until I found this site I was under the impression that it was always better to lose fat before worrying about muscle gain. I’ve also read that one set of 8-12 reps twice a week is enough for a beginner. Fortunately, I have found my way to this site. My point is, try to be patient with us noobs. Obviously we don’t know what we are talking about, that’s why we’re asking.
Thanks for all the great advice.[/quote]
Noobs with your attitude we have all the patience in the world for. I wish I had more time this morning to answer further.
[quote]Kamran114 wrote:
You have just put on the only smile on my face today.
In the past 8 months, I went from an obese (but strong) 5’9 285 pounder, to 165 lbs (3 weeks ago) (using my idea of what was low-carb). 120 lb weight loss. Sounds good right? NOT! MY ARMS ARE twigs now, and i still have that “tub of chub” sitting at my waist, and a bunch of loose skin on top of that everywhere.[/quote]
Damn, but that weight loss is a good job.
read:
Wish I was 17 again.
Just lift correctly, you’ll find you will look better overall. Any basic lifting program will help you if you haven’t been lifting before. May not be the case for you but I would steer clear of the advanced programs alot of them will have a beginner saying F this after 2 weeks. Look for a good 3 - 4 weeks before you see any progress, and as far as looking good higher then 7 rep ranges will make you look better faster by summer. Which is damn near here already.
Thanks for all the suggestions guys,i followed what u all said and i am clean bulking now for 2 weeks so far and following rippetoe’s starting str which is goin very well,ive gained about 1.5 lbs so far in 2 weeks…
[quote]WannaBeStronG wrote:
Thanks for all the suggestions guys,i followed what u all said and i am clean bulking now for 2 weeks so far and following rippetoe’s starting str which is goin very well,ive gained about 1.5 lbs so far in 2 weeks…[/quote]
How are you liking Starting Strength? I’ve been at it for a while, and it’s awesome.
Wanna post your lifts?
Gaining muscle raises your metabolism which helps with losing fat.
Losing fat doesn’t help you build muscle faster.
Guess which one should be done first.
[quote]bigdawg011 wrote:
WannaBeStronG wrote:
Thanks for all the suggestions guys,i followed what u all said and i am clean bulking now for 2 weeks so far and following rippetoe’s starting str which is goin very well,ive gained about 1.5 lbs so far in 2 weeks…
How are you liking Starting Strength? I’ve been at it for a while, and it’s awesome.
Wanna post your lifts?[/quote]
Squat=140x5x3
Bench=160x5x3
Deads=145x5x1
Military Press=90x5x3
pendlay Rows=125x5x3
Dips=10LBx8x2
Hammer Chins=BWx8x2
Decline eighted Sit Ups=40LBx8x3
Hypers=65LBx8x3
Well there they are not impressive @ all lol,im goin light right now so i can get my form down 100% on everything…
Just don’t get the flaming of ignorant and mindless people get to you.
Flames like:
Just stick with your goal, be smart, dont let anyone tell u what to do or how to do it (Look for advice here) and when you achieve your goal than mostly be satisfied about your self and not just to prove something to people around you.
[quote]WannaBeStronG wrote:
Well there they are not impressive @ all lol,im goin light right now so i can get my form down 100% on everything…[/quote]
Dont be afraid to put more weight on the bar
[quote]rander wrote:
WannaBeStronG wrote:
Well there they are not impressive @ all lol,im goin light right now so i can get my form down 100% on everything…
Dont be afraid to put more weight on the bar[/quote]
Yea,i know i could handle a bit more weight but i wanna focus on my form right now…
was wondering what u guys thought of my bulk diet
24
5’9
183
Meal 1
12 Egg Whites 197/0/4/41
1 Cup Oats 311/5/54/13
1 Large Banana 125/1/32/1
Meal 2
6 oz Top Round Steak 306/8/0/54
2 Cup Broccoli 81/1/15/9
2 Tbsp Natty Pb 190/16/6/8
Meal 3
8 oz Chicken Breast 260/2/0/54
1 Cup Whole Wheat Pasta 173/1/37/7
Meal 4(Pre Workout)
1 Scoop Whey 120/1/3/24
0.5 Cup Oats 156/3/27/6
Meal 5(PWO)
2 Scoop Whey 240/2/6/48
2 oz Dex 213/0/57/0
1 Cup Oats 311/5/54/13
Meal 6
6 oz Chicken Breast 195/2/0/41
1 Cup Whole Wheat Pasta 173/1/37/7
Meal 7
1 Cup Cottage Cheese 164/2/6/28
1 Tbsp Fish Oil 123/14/0/0
2 Tbsp Natty Pb 190/16/6/8
Totals Cals(3526)Fat(79)Carbs(345)Pro(364)
Rippetoe’s is a great start for gaining some good muscle mass and strength. I leapt up 30 pounds in the three big lifts from that program.
Enjoy the experience, and don’t stress over the small things right now. Eat the food, hit the gym hard, and sleep as much as possible. It’ll come.
I’d swap 12 egg whites for 6 whole eggs. Just remember. Muscle is conceived in the gym, gestates in your stomach and is born while you rest, so to speak.
Your diet will probably work out better for you if you put a little more weight on the bar… i understand the good form thing but there is no reason to be rowing just 20 lbs less than you deadlift…