Lead Leg Kick To Inside Thigh

Training
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[quote]devildog_jim wrote:

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:

[quote]Beershoes wrote:

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:

[quote]Beershoes wrote:

For most people I would suggest taking that step. Especially if they’re just learning, it really helps with the concept of angles, and turning your hips into your punches (if you follow with a combo). [/quote]

Good deal. I’ve been working with beginners to really understand those key points. Most beginners have a bad habit of reaching with kicks…and teaching them to just pivot reinforces it even more. That is,until they develop the proper timing/range to just pivot off rear foot. [/quote]

I think it’s great you’re teaching them this! When I worked with my guys over the summer (most of whom had much more thai experience than me) this is what they lacked. I think in pure thai boxing it is over looked. Most guys would rather stand in front of each other and cover or bang. Hope this board helps, and keep up the good work Boss![/quote]

Thanks,bro. My coach is all about the small details in technique…and I’ve become the same. Why bother with people if all they want to do is brawl?? You don’t need muay thai instruction for that. [/quote]

While I understand and agree with this statement, what about the counter argument that gross motor skills are all that is retained when tired and under extreme stress and that techniques should be made as simple and devoid of nuance as possible? [/quote]

Muscle memory and the actual application of technique as they are intended?? Granted that a person has been training proper technique for a given time to make it happen. Also,muay thai technique isn’t so complicated that it disregards gross motor skills like other martial arts.

In regards to competition…I think it’s given that when you’re extremely tired…a good portion of technique gets sloppy. But that’s more of an issue of conditioning…sloppy technique is no excuse when you’re fresh.

Also,I always believed that the more efficient and disciplined your technique is…the less “extra” energy you waste as opposed to being sloppy with your technique. Good technique helps your fight cardio,imo. Lots of guys blow their wad trying imitate old-school Wanderlei…when they don’t even have Wanderlei conditioning.

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[quote]devildog_jim wrote:

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:

[quote]Beershoes wrote:

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:

[quote]Beershoes wrote:

For most people I would suggest taking that step. Especially if they’re just learning, it really helps with the concept of angles, and turning your hips into your punches (if you follow with a combo). [/quote]

Good deal. I’ve been working with beginners to really understand those key points. Most beginners have a bad habit of reaching with kicks…and teaching them to just pivot reinforces it even more. That is,until they develop the proper timing/range to just pivot off rear foot. [/quote]

I think it’s great you’re teaching them this! When I worked with my guys over the summer (most of whom had much more thai experience than me) this is what they lacked. I think in pure thai boxing it is over looked. Most guys would rather stand in front of each other and cover or bang. Hope this board helps, and keep up the good work Boss![/quote]

Thanks,bro. My coach is all about the small details in technique…and I’ve become the same. Why bother with people if all they want to do is brawl?? You don’t need muay thai instruction for that. [/quote]

While I understand and agree with this statement, what about the counter argument that gross motor skills are all that is retained when tired and under extreme stress and that techniques should be made as simple and devoid of nuance as possible? [/quote]

Generally that theory applies to whether things will work for the average person in a street confrontation or during a crime when they’ve attended a seminar or two and taken karate for a year.

If you’re competing in a combat sport, especially professionally, you’re getting to the point where your training becomes your life, and you’ve got plenty of experience in the ring… thus “extreme stress” gets factored out, and the only thing left is conditioning.

You don’t see Floyd Mayweather or Pacquiao suddenly start flailing wildly and forgetting their footwork in the 12th round… and you probably won’t see an amateur fighter or Golden gloves champ forget that either. They’re not “the average person.”

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]devildog_jim wrote:

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:

[quote]Beershoes wrote:

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:

[quote]Beershoes wrote:

For most people I would suggest taking that step. Especially if they’re just learning, it really helps with the concept of angles, and turning your hips into your punches (if you follow with a combo). [/quote]

Good deal. I’ve been working with beginners to really understand those key points. Most beginners have a bad habit of reaching with kicks…and teaching them to just pivot reinforces it even more. That is,until they develop the proper timing/range to just pivot off rear foot. [/quote]

I think it’s great you’re teaching them this! When I worked with my guys over the summer (most of whom had much more thai experience than me) this is what they lacked. I think in pure thai boxing it is over looked. Most guys would rather stand in front of each other and cover or bang. Hope this board helps, and keep up the good work Boss![/quote]

Thanks,bro. My coach is all about the small details in technique…and I’ve become the same. Why bother with people if all they want to do is brawl?? You don’t need muay thai instruction for that. [/quote]

While I understand and agree with this statement, what about the counter argument that gross motor skills are all that is retained when tired and under extreme stress and that techniques should be made as simple and devoid of nuance as possible? [/quote]

Generally that theory applies to whether things will work for the average person in a street confrontation or during a crime when they’ve attended a seminar or two and taken karate for a year.

If you’re competing in a combat sport, especially professionally, you’re getting to the point where your training becomes your life, and you’ve got plenty of experience in the ring… thus “extreme stress” gets factored out, and the only thing left is conditioning.

You don’t see Floyd Mayweather or Pacquiao suddenly start flailing wildly and forgetting their footwork in the 12th round… and you probably won’t see an amateur fighter or Golden gloves champ forget that either. They’re not “the average person.”[/quote]

Thanks for expanding on that.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]devildog_jim wrote:

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:

[quote]Beershoes wrote:

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:

[quote]Beershoes wrote:

For most people I would suggest taking that step. Especially if they’re just learning, it really helps with the concept of angles, and turning your hips into your punches (if you follow with a combo). [/quote]

Good deal. I’ve been working with beginners to really understand those key points. Most beginners have a bad habit of reaching with kicks…and teaching them to just pivot reinforces it even more. That is,until they develop the proper timing/range to just pivot off rear foot. [/quote]

I think it’s great you’re teaching them this! When I worked with my guys over the summer (most of whom had much more thai experience than me) this is what they lacked. I think in pure thai boxing it is over looked. Most guys would rather stand in front of each other and cover or bang. Hope this board helps, and keep up the good work Boss![/quote]

Thanks,bro. My coach is all about the small details in technique…and I’ve become the same. Why bother with people if all they want to do is brawl?? You don’t need muay thai instruction for that. [/quote]

While I understand and agree with this statement, what about the counter argument that gross motor skills are all that is retained when tired and under extreme stress and that techniques should be made as simple and devoid of nuance as possible? [/quote]

Generally that theory applies to whether things will work for the average person in a street confrontation or during a crime when they’ve attended a seminar or two and taken karate for a year.

If you’re competing in a combat sport, especially professionally, you’re getting to the point where your training becomes your life, and you’ve got plenty of experience in the ring… thus “extreme stress” gets factored out, and the only thing left is conditioning.

You don’t see Floyd Mayweather or Pacquiao suddenly start flailing wildly and forgetting their footwork in the 12th round… and you probably won’t see an amateur fighter or Golden gloves champ forget that either. They’re not “the average person.”[/quote]

Wow never thought like that, really liked your comment, very interesting.

As fighters says: you always get stressed before a fight, but when you step in the ring you don’t fell anything more

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[quote]kaisermetal wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
If you’re competing in a combat sport, especially professionally, you’re getting to the point where your training becomes your life, and you’ve got plenty of experience in the ring… thus “extreme stress” gets factored out, and the only thing left is conditioning.

You don’t see Floyd Mayweather or Pacquiao suddenly start flailing wildly and forgetting their footwork in the 12th round… and you probably won’t see an amateur fighter or Golden gloves champ forget that either. They’re not “the average person.”[/quote]

Wow never thought like that, really liked your comment, very interesting.

As fighters says: you always get stressed before a fight, but when you step in the ring you don’t fell anything more
[/quote]

Same with any sport. When you play football you’re nervous as fuck before the kickoff, but after you’ve gotten into it, you’re on autopilot… or you should be if you’ve been coached well.

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gonzaga is a perfect indicator of a majority of the mma kicking game. You got guys that are athletic, and they can kick HARD, such as gonzaga with crocop, but they really dont get the timing and application of these kicks. The same could be said for mma punching to boxing too I suppose. Proper footwork and timing can turn an inside leg kick from a nuisance to a nightmare.

I both step with my kicks and throw them with just a pivot…depends on what im doing. I kick alot however…

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I don’t think i got what you meant to explain