[quote]Chris Shugart wrote:
CrossFit has convinced many women to lift weights and not be scared of “getting too big.” And for that, I thank them. [/quote]
And at the same time convinced lots of men that bodybuilding is bad and ‘not functional’.
I’ll give more credit and thanks to Nike and their newer ad campains for women
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]Chris Shugart wrote:
CrossFit has convinced many women to lift weights and not be scared of “getting too big.” And for that, I thank them. [/quote]
And at the same time convinced lots of men that bodybuilding is bad and ‘not functional’.
I’ll give more credit and thanks to Nike and their newer ad campains for women
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I’ll also echo what others have said, most of the crossfit women who look good are former competitive athletes. I enjoy watching the crossfit games, and I’m always interested to hear the competitors backgrounds. Sprinting and gymnastics at high levels are very common.
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]Chris Shugart wrote:
CrossFit has convinced many women to lift weights and not be scared of “getting too big.” And for that, I thank them. [/quote]
And at the same time convinced lots of men that bodybuilding is bad and ‘not functional’.
I’ll give more credit and thanks to Nike and their newer ad campains for women
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I will say that is one of the only positive things that CrossFit has done (promoting women lifting weights). HOWEVER, my fiance has been lifting weights for a few years now consistently and never once stepped into a CrossFit gym or followed a CrossFit program. She simply saw a female who’s physique she admired (curvy, but ripped) and asked her what her secret was. The woman said “Get off the treadmill and step under the squat rack every once in a while.”
[quote]ironmanzvw wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]Chris Shugart wrote:
CrossFit has convinced many women to lift weights and not be scared of “getting too big.” And for that, I thank them. [/quote]
And at the same time convinced lots of men that bodybuilding is bad and ‘not functional’.
I’ll give more credit and thanks to Nike and their newer ad campains for women
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I will say that is one of the only positive things that CrossFit has done (promoting women lifting weights). HOWEVER, my fiance has been lifting weights for a few years now consistently and never once stepped into a CrossFit gym or followed a CrossFit program. She simply saw a female who’s physique she admired (curvy, but ripped) and asked her what her secret was. The woman said “Get off the treadmill and step under the squat rack every once in a while.”[/quote]
This has to be an American thing. If you go to Rio, weightlifting and steroids are actually extremely prevelant amung girls more so than guys.
Where we used to have rail thin and skinny celebs and fashion models idolized and propagandizing our women, other places, Brazil and Carnival being a great example, conditioned their women to idolize big thick legs and butts.
For the record, my girlfriend is a Brazillian exhange student, and I have been their about 4 times now. Our technology and infrastructure may be superior to most of the world, but our women are not. Crossfit will not fix it.
A few years ago I hated crossfit
Then I saw this video
[quote]Chris Shugart wrote:
CrossFit has convinced many women to lift weights and not be scared of “getting too big.” And for that, I thank them. [/quote]
What’s that saying… Crossfit makes women hot and men small -lol
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I like Crossfit for a few reasons:
A lot of the Olympic lifters at my club came from crossfit, that’s good.
It makes more women lift, that’s good.
It has got my local gym to invest in a bunch of awesome equipment that we otherwise would not have had, that’s good.
Other than that, it’s fucking garbage.
I think all those people who give the whole Crossfit thing so much shit are not looking at it from a neutral standpoint. There are pros and cons as with everything. It certainly isn’t simply “garbage”.
I don’t understand why crossfit gets so much hate. It gets people in shape, and that’s something society could use more of.
Not everyone wants to be big and muscular, some people just like torturing themselves with metcon stuff. Don’t really understand it myself but different people like different things.
Sure people get injured doing it, but people get injured doing all sorts of shit. Every powerlifter I know has injured themselves at some point, but for some reason crossfit is always criticised for causing injury whereas in powerlifting it’s just sort of accepted.
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
I don’t understand why crossfit gets so much hate. It gets people in shape, and that’s something society could use more of.
Not everyone wants to be big and muscular, some people just like torturing themselves with metcon stuff. Don’t really understand it myself but different people like different things.
Sure people get injured doing it, but people get injured doing all sorts of shit. Every powerlifter I know has injured themselves at some point, but for some reason crossfit is always criticised for causing injury whereas in powerlifting it’s just sort of accepted.[/quote]
I think a big part of that is having undertrained people doing extremely complex/advanced lifts. It takes years to get good olympic lifting form down. I personally don’t think it’s a good idea to have a beginning lifter, being fatigued from their workout, to keep banging out tons of reps on oly lifts. That’s a recipe for disaster.
I am definitely biased against crossfit. That’s because it doesn’t interest me and you can achieve results in much faster methods. As other posters mentioned, it does get people to start lifting, particularly women. I’m sure it’s also good for the average lifter that wants to stay lean without having any spectacular amount of muscle mass.
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
I think all those people who give the whole Crossfit thing so much shit are not looking at it from a neutral standpoint. There are pros and cons as with everything. It certainly isn’t simply “garbage”.[/quote]
I don’t hate Crossfit and like others have said, I think there are positive aspects to it. Hell, I train Olympic lifting at a Crossfit gym, and I’m pretty sure that if not for that CF gym I would have found a place to train the lifts and get decent coaching. And earlier this week I actually did a CF workout. That said, the comment from Glassman in the original post is plain stupid. While science can’t investigate every fitness trend and “doing what works” is certainly a good way to plan your training, to say that science has made no impact on training is absurd. I doubt I would have made the gains I’ve made without reading some “sciencey” stuff.
[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:
I think a big part of that is having undertrained people doing extremely complex/advanced lifts. It takes years to get good olympic lifting form down. I personally don’t think it’s a good idea to have a beginning lifter, being fatigued from their workout, to keep banging out tons of reps on oly lifts. That’s a recipe for disaster.
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yeah I sort of see where you’re coming from with this but I don’t really agree. The weights they use for these high rep snatches or whatever are pretty low. You don’t need much technique just to woosh up a light snatch done from a hang position.
If they were making people hit really heavy singles or something with such terrible form then that’d be more of an issue, but all the times I’ve seen high rep olympic stuff the weights are light.
I have seen videos of crossfitters hitting heavy olympic stuff, and the technique from the guys lifting heavy looked alright to me, not that I’m an expert…
[quote]zraw wrote:
A few years ago I hated crossfit
Then I saw this video
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Wow! That’s just friggin Awesome.
[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
I think all those people who give the whole Crossfit thing so much shit are not looking at it from a neutral standpoint. There are pros and cons as with everything. It certainly isn’t simply “garbage”.[/quote]
I don’t hate Crossfit and like others have said, I think there are positive aspects to it. Hell, I train Olympic lifting at a Crossfit gym, and I’m pretty sure that if not for that CF gym I would have found a place to train the lifts and get decent coaching. And earlier this week I actually did a CF workout. That said, the comment from Glassman in the original post is plain stupid. While science can’t investigate every fitness trend and “doing what works” is certainly a good way to plan your training, to say that science has made no impact on training is absurd. I doubt I would have made the gains I’ve made without reading some “sciencey” stuff.[/quote]
Sure, I agree. My post was just a general comment.
Of course he’s going to disagree with scientific principles, and, mistakenly claim that science has ‘never’ had any impact on any form of training - because he wants to keep it a cult.
That’s the main negative thing about crossfit - doesn’t encourage rational thought, instead you give your brain over to the cult.
Here’s a crossfit video about the deadlift;
See how pretentious it is?
crossfit gets hate because it is a cult, because all of the weak morons who put “I do crossfit” stickers on their cars, because they think they are hardcore for doing some cardio program with girly weights
this part was good:
thats why all the crossfitters are small, right?
and the founder is just a fat guy? why would anyone take advice about “general fitness” from him.
i guess its better than sitting on the couch if you don’t want to specialize in something, if you want to be horrible at everything, just do crossfit
My only problem with cross fit is the attitude that crossfiters have towards non crossfiters that everything they do is better. Regardless of goals or w.e and I personally could not associate with the cross fit “community” and or be associated with a douchebag like glassmen.
Tate’s remarks concerning the FB status (the link’s above, but I figured I’d just paste it up for those who can’t view images at their workplace).
"I take the “Fraud” comment as an insult.
I have spent most of my life studying training theory and methodology and have spent thousands of hours of my life reading and researching everything and anything that deals with strength development including a degree in the field.
I guess ALL those THOUSANDS of hours I have spent (as many other trainers, lifters and coaches)and the THOUSANDS of hours training myself and others are all worthless and yielded zero education and experience and thus I’m a fraud.
Would I still be the same “Fraud” if I had a crossfit certification?
I work, live, and cater to a niche market made up of those who place training as one of their top 4 priorities and would not trade it for anything!
It is statements like these that make me thankful for staying true to this market and out of the general fitness and sporting goods market.
If you have any comments we have this posted on our facebook page (there is an icon at the top of this page that will take you right there).
I usually don’t post shit like this but this one pissed me off because it is extremely disrespectful to pretty much every coach and trainer I know. "
Lol don’t most cults work like that? Discredit everything else while touting their method one. I still remember years ago all the skinny “science” quoting guys were saying all bigger guys didn’t know what they were doing and insisted everyone do total body training.
